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Pretty much this. every timeline I've seen is all assumptions from players or second hand from someone else in game. Also no real numbers are given.
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This has some serious potential with its protagonist. The guy is seriously mental and I like the idea of the further along the story goes the more we are unsure if what is happening is reality or the guy hallucinating.
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I still don't think Ellie is MC's daughter.
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Definitely needs some work on the translation, the dialogue is...odd.
Overall the first part of the story is super serious and dark, then 15 years later, it's a goofy "comedy" where the MC is the butt of all the "jokes".
The dialogue needs a rework with a more robust character development, because right now, all of the characters are extremely Cliché.
The "rapist" and "perv" comments are overboard and the MC's actions at times just doesn't make sense give the circumstances.
Overall the first part of the story is super serious and dark, then 15 years later, it's a goofy "comedy" where the MC is the butt of all the "jokes".
The dialogue needs a rework with a more robust character development, because right now, all of the characters are extremely Cliché.
The "rapist" and "perv" comments are overboard and the MC's actions at times just doesn't make sense give the circumstances.
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MC is just okay wit the fact she didn't wait and even worse sleep with his best friend? lol what a simp even she is like "it okay if you hate me" because she knows it was wrong .
That's because Olivia got interupted the first night by Ellie, when she was going to talk to the MC. Of course it could be that Olivia would have told the MC, why she slept with Lucas and how it happend with Ellie. But it also could be the fact, that she wanted to tell the truth that Ellie is his second child. As for now, there were nothing really told besides what Ellie told and until now it could all be a big fat lie and the MC is just accepting this "truth". We will only know, if the dev tells us or the story clears it up. And I stand by what I wrote, it needs to be cleared ASAP, best in the next chapter. It will also be crucial for many players (including me) if they want to stick to the game or not.
I agree the first part was great. Lucas and MC both can't be Ellie's Father because she looks half asian. I hate the whole old man part, the character must be about 35-37. Olivia seems like she doesn't really care a whole contradiction from what she was in the first part. The photo in Olivia's room with the gang with baby Mia, doesn't Mia think that the "old man" has a resemblance to the picture? I'm hoping that the next update is much better.
I still don't get know how people can imagine Olivia cheating on MC the immediately after his departure(in 3 months at most) and having a child from that affair. Makes 0 sense. She is in love with him. She wants him to cum inside him without taking pills. She gets creampied like 5 time without pills, absolutely no chance of her not being pregnant while MC is on boat and leaving. She accepts his marriage proposal. She hates Lucas since the beginning of the game. Lucas promises to take care of MC's family. The dude probably decided to be a father to a fatherless girl.
Only non-sensical part here is characters refusing to tell the truth to MC immediately. Olivia was about to reveal the truth but got interrupted. She could do it after the interruption. What about Lucas though? Her being Lucas' kid somehow protects her from gangs or something? Did he basically protected her life by adopting her? This needs to be explained in the next update.
Only non-sensical part here is characters refusing to tell the truth to MC immediately. Olivia was about to reveal the truth but got interrupted. She could do it after the interruption. What about Lucas though? Her being Lucas' kid somehow protects her from gangs or something? Did he basically protected her life by adopting her? This needs to be explained in the next update.
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90% of porn games on this site are repetitive cliches. This game stands out among mediocre novels, similar to the tasteless chewing gum of most porn games. Only a smug, stoned turkey sees nothing but his fluffed feathers, admiring himself in the mirror of his vanity.
Uff.. seems to me that the devs ate so much soap opera drama...
There is too much second guessing and dumb missdirection going on.
The chapter 0 was pretty interesting, a very very good setup for the story to unveil. Hell, it also had the potential to be the center of the story.
Characters were flawed, with only Lily being the only "flawless" character. That made the cast pretty interesting and the romance with Olivia and MC was well done and interesting due to the scenario being so tragic.
Here i though, great start... then the story kept going years after, and i come to realize that to mee it seems that the dev just want drama for the sake of it being there.
Don't get me wrong, good drama could drive the story... but hell, here we have a lot of things that doesn't work well just because people could resolve all the drama going by talking the proper topic 3 minutes.
At start the MC had to leave to keep them safe. I'm ok with that... but doesn't make any sense that he had 0 information, 0 talks, 0 ways of communicating through all those years. Hell i was expecting for him to end up in jail for mass murder; that would be more fitting for him not being able to make any contact with his family.
The whole Lucas / Olivia drama, its just there to keep the audience second guessing, like a cheap hook lazily used in telenovelas.
Designed to not make clear where the truth lays... but its so poorly done that it ended destroying a) the characters or b) the narrative.
If Olivia / Lucas were together and Ellie was born from that. it just destroy Olivia as a character for the majority of the audience. Not only that, but it renders her previous words towards MC in chapter 0 as an empty promise. Making her less appealing due to the cast getting bigger. Why should i bother to get with a woman that didn't kept her word, when there are other characters getting into the story. Oh wait, the story won't let that happen so.... character or story is hurt, choose your poison.
Hell, even Olivia as a character didn't wanted to have anything to have with Lucas; if she was in need of a relationship, hell she could have choose to get to know a new man that could fit her taste better, instead of getting involved with MC best friend, who supposedly she wanted nothing to do with; knowing that the MC could eventually return.
She could have just changed, its a lot of years, and that's OK, but then give the player the same agency to choose if the MC forgives her or not.
If Olivia / Lucas were not together, and it's a smoke distraction in the story; that means that Ellie is MC daugther, which could fit in the timeframe (Was heavy foreshadowed that Olivia wanted to get pregnant and tried again and again until they were separated).
This is what i think its happening, but the narrative gets totally wonky just to keep the cheap hook going...
Why at one point seems that Olivia is going to tell the MC something related to that and avoided the conversation days an days, why both sister doesnt even know the reality of that relationship; Mia tells you "she never saw them together", Ellie tells you "the got separated after a while". Why Olivia neglected Mia and avoided nurturing her father memories, knowing that she loved him.
For me it makes no sense for Olivia, to keep the lie and let the MC torturing himself, to the point of "admitting" that she didnt waited for him. What's the point, i don't see any threats, any reason, anything for Olivia to be lying that way (Hell even if she is blackmailed or if some theories that mark Lucas as the new gangster is true... nobody will know what MC and Olivia would whisper to each other the truth after being separated so long)
I think the devs wanted to keep the mistery, but the story suffers when the suspension of disbelief is broken.
If the common sense ask for something to be resolved and the story doesn't let that happen, it feels that the characters are just cheap plot devices, that are trying to tell a story hardly believable.
I still think that this VN is above the majority in this place, and have a great foundation/potential. It just needs to avoid relying on cheap hooks used in TV, and be more consistent with the information given and avoid dumbing down its characters to the point of making them just appealing for the porn aspect of the story.
There is too much second guessing and dumb missdirection going on.
The chapter 0 was pretty interesting, a very very good setup for the story to unveil. Hell, it also had the potential to be the center of the story.
Characters were flawed, with only Lily being the only "flawless" character. That made the cast pretty interesting and the romance with Olivia and MC was well done and interesting due to the scenario being so tragic.
Here i though, great start... then the story kept going years after, and i come to realize that to mee it seems that the dev just want drama for the sake of it being there.
Don't get me wrong, good drama could drive the story... but hell, here we have a lot of things that doesn't work well just because people could resolve all the drama going by talking the proper topic 3 minutes.
At start the MC had to leave to keep them safe. I'm ok with that... but doesn't make any sense that he had 0 information, 0 talks, 0 ways of communicating through all those years. Hell i was expecting for him to end up in jail for mass murder; that would be more fitting for him not being able to make any contact with his family.
The whole Lucas / Olivia drama, its just there to keep the audience second guessing, like a cheap hook lazily used in telenovelas.
Designed to not make clear where the truth lays... but its so poorly done that it ended destroying a) the characters or b) the narrative.
If Olivia / Lucas were together and Ellie was born from that. it just destroy Olivia as a character for the majority of the audience. Not only that, but it renders her previous words towards MC in chapter 0 as an empty promise. Making her less appealing due to the cast getting bigger. Why should i bother to get with a woman that didn't kept her word, when there are other characters getting into the story. Oh wait, the story won't let that happen so.... character or story is hurt, choose your poison.
Hell, even Olivia as a character didn't wanted to have anything to have with Lucas; if she was in need of a relationship, hell she could have choose to get to know a new man that could fit her taste better, instead of getting involved with MC best friend, who supposedly she wanted nothing to do with; knowing that the MC could eventually return.
She could have just changed, its a lot of years, and that's OK, but then give the player the same agency to choose if the MC forgives her or not.
If Olivia / Lucas were not together, and it's a smoke distraction in the story; that means that Ellie is MC daugther, which could fit in the timeframe (Was heavy foreshadowed that Olivia wanted to get pregnant and tried again and again until they were separated).
This is what i think its happening, but the narrative gets totally wonky just to keep the cheap hook going...
Why at one point seems that Olivia is going to tell the MC something related to that and avoided the conversation days an days, why both sister doesnt even know the reality of that relationship; Mia tells you "she never saw them together", Ellie tells you "the got separated after a while". Why Olivia neglected Mia and avoided nurturing her father memories, knowing that she loved him.
For me it makes no sense for Olivia, to keep the lie and let the MC torturing himself, to the point of "admitting" that she didnt waited for him. What's the point, i don't see any threats, any reason, anything for Olivia to be lying that way (Hell even if she is blackmailed or if some theories that mark Lucas as the new gangster is true... nobody will know what MC and Olivia would whisper to each other the truth after being separated so long)
I think the devs wanted to keep the mistery, but the story suffers when the suspension of disbelief is broken.
If the common sense ask for something to be resolved and the story doesn't let that happen, it feels that the characters are just cheap plot devices, that are trying to tell a story hardly believable.
I still think that this VN is above the majority in this place, and have a great foundation/potential. It just needs to avoid relying on cheap hooks used in TV, and be more consistent with the information given and avoid dumbing down its characters to the point of making them just appealing for the porn aspect of the story.
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I guess, this is your purely personal opinion when you see a girl with glasses in a simple summer dress ))But dad is not asianHow are you gonna explain that
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Thats just to keep up the previous lie i think. I could still bet that Ellie is the mc´s daughter. If you don´t believe me then watch out how the story unfolds. Mark my words
dude even if MC is the Father of both It does neglected the fact she was in relationship with Lucas his best friend- I mean come on she even admitted she can understand if he is pissed... She know MC had no other choice then be away why she got to be together with his best friend..even if she couldn't wait.
And why the fuck she let her second daughter have so much negative feelings for the men she claims to love?
This is NTR nothing else and developer make claims of it hints or future release makes a difference kind of romance makes not less of NTR~
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There's a cheating tag, buddy. It amuses me that you could read only when you are being bullied.
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