Ren'Py Family, Friends and Strangers [v2024.01] [JohnAndRich]

[gainax_jin]

Still on the A path and has changed his pants from the last scene, but recycled his shirt.

That scene could represent anything, but given how chapter 12a ended, my guess is that it's part of the plan to bend Becky to his will. Given that they're at school and this part of the plan would be after the meeting with Ashley he organised with the cops, my guess is that he was seen in public with her as planned and this pic is Parker explaining that he's actually a player and not Becky's boyfriend..

Hmm, The image is named ch13bc_07. So its from the B path I think

 

[Mistress_Kixen]

While I wish there was a 11a Gallery (seeing as it was indeed missing) I enjoyed reading both 12a and 12b (I won't say play seeing as this novel only has 1 choice for the player and said choice sets him down either path a or b)

While I did enjoy part a is it completely wrong that I enjoyed watching part b more than part a?

 

[L.Lumpy]

While I wish there was a 11a Gallery (seeing as it was indeed missing)

Maybe Rich will take note and correct this in the next release

...I enjoyed reading both 12a and 12b (I won't say play seeing as this novel only has 1 choice for the player and said choice sets him down either path a or b)

While I did enjoy part a is it completely wrong that I enjoyed watching part b more than part a?

Of course not. Rich said he was torn as to which story variant to tell, which is why he included both. I'm sure that he anticipated some people liking one and some the other.

 

[Cunt Hunter69]

Is it better to play the game now or just wait for the next update?

 

[Night Hacker]

Is it better to play the game now or just wait for the next update?

Why wait? Play away and then save your game when done.

 

[Cunt Hunter69]

Why wait? Play away and then save your game when done.

Nah if I play right now then I won't touch it again for atleast six months

 

[randomguy26]

Nah if I play right now then I won't touch it again for atleast six months

This game is suited for you then. There won't be much in a single update. What makes it good is the entirety of it. Give it a go bud.
Only downside to this game is the irregular updates. Then again, that's pretty much the way for most quality games.

 

[Night Hacker]

Nah if I play right now then I won't touch it again for atleast six months

Play something else while you wait? Or replay the game again from the start (I've done that to remind myself of the story). If you wait for all games to be completed, you'll be waiting a while!

 

[Rich]

Hi, folks!

Before you ask:

1. Yes, I'm busily at work on the next release
2. No, I won't give you a date. (FAQ Item #3)

The reason I stopped by this evening was to introduce AssassinWolf67. AW and I met online a while back, and have developed a "Discord friendship." Turns out we share some common background, plus, he's just a really nice guy. More importantly, he's a pretty prolific and (IMHO) creative writer - you can check out his stuff

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.

The reason I mention him is that, over the past couple of months, he's given me a LOT of constructive criticism on FF&S. He suggested some significant improvements on the release I'm working on, as well as coming up with a number of awesome ideas for the following releases. I might even be able to persuade him to do some of the writing for the release after this one, although that assumes he actually has the time to spend on my stuff, as opposed to his stuff.

In any event, given the contributions he's made (from my point of view) I just wanted to toss out a "credit where credit is due" post, plus a suggestion that, if you're into the genres in FF&S, you might consider checking out some of his work on Literotica.

 

[Night Hacker]

Hi, folks!

Before you ask:

1. Yes, I'm busily at work on the next release
2. No, I won't give you a date. (FAQ Item #3)

The reason I stopped by this evening was to introduce AssassinWolf67. AW and I met online a while back, and have developed a "Discord friendship." Turns out we share some common background, plus, he's just a really nice guy. More importantly, he's a pretty prolific and (IMHO) creative writer - you can check out his stuff

You must be registered to see the links

.

The reason I mention him is that, over the past couple of months, he's given me a LOT of constructive criticism on FF&S. He suggested some significant improvements on the release I'm working on, as well as coming up with a number of awesome ideas for the following releases. I might even be able to persuade him to do some of the writing for the release after this one, although that assumes he actually has the time to spend on my stuff, as opposed to his stuff.

In any event, given the contributions he's made (from my point of view) I just wanted to toss out a "credit where credit is due" post, plus a suggestion that, if you're into the genres in FF&S, you might consider checking out some of his work on Literotica.

Nice! Been reading great fiction there for years, I'll check his work out. I have a great deal of respect for good writers. It's difficult to master I find.

 

[Yaushua]

when f***cking does the mother-son chapter come out? DAMN..

 

[L.Lumpy]

when f***cking does the mother-son chapter come out? DAMN..

Who says there's ever going to be one? It is possible to write a game without incest...

(And if you'd searched this thread, you'd find this has been asked over and over again. Rich has given no indication he's going there.)

 

[Nabz542]

Can anyone recommend similar VNs to this?

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

So I started playing it, seeing all my favorite fetishes tagged...

I'm expected to believe the very first sexual assault scene happens in broad daylight, in front of the school... In front of many WITNESSES... Where no amount of "I'm the cops" would protect them, and that just slides by!?

Even shutting my brain off in like, yeah you destroyed all the bs build up about planning and research in the prolongue in the second chapter wow.

 

[Night Hacker]

So I started playing it, seeing all my favorite fetishes tagged...

I'm expected to believe the very first sexual assault scene happens in broad daylight, in front of the school... In front of many WITNESSES... Where no amount of "I'm the cops" would protect them, and that just slides by!?

Even shutting my brain off in like, yeah you destroyed all the bs build up about planning and research in the prolongue in the second chapter wow.

It's fiction. I take it you don't watch science fiction or super hero movies at all then? Because if this bugged you for its lack of realism.

I have seen cops break the law in public and get away with it. Heck, we see it on TV anymore and nobody bats an eye. In this case, most of the witnesses were children who nobody would ever believe, so it is plausible.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

It's fiction. I take it you don't watch science fiction or super hero movies at all then? Because if this bugged you for its lack of realism.

I have seen cops break the law in public and get away with it. Heck, we see it on TV anymore and nobody bats an eye. In this case, most of the witnesses were children who nobody would ever believe, so it is plausible.

Then you would take it wrong because I watch exclusively fiction, and I even draw and draw fantasy art.

With that said there also different types of fiction, not all fiction his high fantasy where you have to shut off your brain to enjoy. So excuse me for thinking that maybe based on how the prologue with there would be a little actual thought out into the blackmail and humiliation. He'll in fact in play almost exclusive rape and ntr games on this site, I already have to shut done my brains to believe 90% of the stories especially some of the retarded, "insert name her" life stories that were popular a few years back.

If you want to be anecdotal, I've seen cops get busted for simple accusations so yea doesn't matter what you've seen.

 

[Night Hacker]

Then you would take it wrong because I watch exclusively fiction, and I even draw and draw fantasy art.

With that said there also different types of fiction, not all fiction his high fantasy where you have to shut off your brain to enjoy. So excuse me for thinking that maybe based on how the prologue with there would be a little actual thought out into the blackmail and humiliation. He'll in fact in play almost exclusive rape and ntr games on this site, I already have to shut done my brains to believe 90% of the stories especially some of the retarded, "insert name her" life stories that were popular a few years back.

If you want to be anecdotal, I've seen cops get busted for simple accusations so yea doesn't matter what you've seen.

If you think this should be more realistic, and believe me, I understand where you're coming from, I had the same thoughts when I first seen that scene, but in the end, it's just fantasy, albeit a little more realistic. I mean, have you thought about the vast majority of adult stories on here AT ALL with regard to realism?! Seriously? We have stories with a guy who ends up banging his whole family, they are all madly in love, and even know about each other and are okay with it and there's even scenarios where he gets his mother and sisters all pregnant and they live happily ever after! Man alive, if you're looking for anything close to realism in these games, you won't find it. Heck, this game probably comes closer to reality than most I have seen.

In the end, it's all fiction, just stories which illustrate fantasies which would probably never happen in real life. Which is fine by me. Some are so out there I have burst out laughing, but I don't expect reality.

Anyhow... I know where you're coming from... but don't expect too much. Have a good one.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

If you think this should be more realistic, and believe me, I understand where you're coming from, I had the same thoughts when I first seen that scene, but in the end, it's just fantasy, albeit a little more realistic. I mean, have you thought about the vast majority of adult stories on here AT ALL with regard to realism?! Seriously? We have stories with a guy who ends up banging his whole family, they are all madly in love, and even know about each other and are okay with it and there's even scenarios where he gets his mother and sisters all pregnant and they live happily ever after! Man alive, if you're looking for anything close to realism in these games, you won't find it. Heck, this game probably comes closer to reality than most I have seen.

In the end, it's all fiction, just stories which illustrate fantasies which would probably never happen in real life. Which is fine by me. Some are so out there I have burst out laughing, but I don't expect reality.

Anyhow... I know where you're coming from... but don't expect too much. Have a good one.

I don't even think it should be more realistic, I just find that literal one scene I don't even know the word I should use. As pointed out in later chapters there were not only a group of witnesses, but students recorded it. There is not logical reasoning even if we count it as fiction that the story can even move beyond that point because literally no court outside that jurisdiction would turn a I blinds eye to it. There's both proof and witnesses, and that would get outsider investigation alone.

Then scene would have made more sense if they had taken them to an alleyway before making it to the station and then doing the sexual assault. That way it would've been the cops word vs there's, and and every little argument we like to make against corrupt cops would hold more weight. Because there would be nothing more solid to use against them..

Also yes, I do look at every story on here as to how fucking stupid the story is, it's actually the primary reason whether or not I continue to follow some of these "games" and visual novels. If I just wanted to fap, is just go the porn hub or somecrap and click a random video where it's just a penis going into a vagina. No build up, no interest in characters, hell half the time the title is just some random shit that has no contextual connection to the video, it's just two people fucking.

There is a reason these visual novels, doujins, and games all have synopsis and stories to them, because they play a part in it as well. I didn't expect too much, I at least expected a level of common sense for what appeared to be a my down to earth story and not another insert "magic/superpower* fiction story.

but iI said my peace, this is just my opinion.

 

[Rich]

Just to throw my oar in the water here, I completely understand the point that you're making The_fallen_dragon. At the time this scene was written, JohnCBB was the "author in charge," and that was the way he wanted the scene to go, so that's the way it went. He was the author, I was the artist, and that was that.

Since his departure, that one scene is probably my biggest regret in the entire story, since it requires more "suspension of disbelief" than any other. While I suppose I could go back and completely rework it, that would take time away from progressing the rest of the story. So I haven't. But please know that you're not the only one that has expressed this sentiment, and I completely understand where you're coming from.

 

[The_fallen_dragon]

Well, the cops do end up charged and in court. So... anyhow, if you dis like it... don't play it. We're all here because we like it. Bye!

Sorry to be the barer of bad news, but these forums aren't a echo chamber. They aren't here to just praise a game you like and be unhappy with people who voiced there criticism about it. I could understand if I just say insulted or attacked the game or the dev unreasonably, but no these forums are for both positive and negative discussion.

Which ironically I only spoke negatively about one scene, not the whole game pointing out why it doesn't work conceptually or literally.

Either way, cheers, have a good day.

Just to throw my oar in the water here, I completely understand the point that you're making The_fallen_dragon. At the time this scene was written, JohnCBB was the "author in charge," and that was the way he wanted the scene to go, so that's the way it went. He was the author, I was the artist, and that was that.

Since his departure, that one scene is probably my biggest regret in the entire story, since it requires more "suspension of disbelief" than any other. While I suppose I could go back and completely rework it, that would take time away from progressing the rest of the story. So I haven't. But please know that you're not the only one that has expressed this sentiment, and I completely understand where you're coming from.

Wow, congrats this is one of the most reasonable responses I've seen on this forum to criticism to a game, props on that.