agn25

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With Fred? Mmm, I don't remember Melanie dating Fred, maybe you meant Marcus? Show me in which part of which season was it)? Maybe I missed something). And send me a save if you have any left)
I was referring to the last two Monica and Fred scenes. First one is late in ep3, the second in ep4. Where Monica has totally changed her personality just for those two scenes so far. I used these scenes as an example to say that Melanie could suddenly start liking her time with Victoria if Melanie's and Vic's storyline goes off the rails, like the Fred and Monica path has.

Anyway which of the scenes do you think Melanie liked?
 
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There are two nuances here.
1st - you are right and such a theorem really exists.
2nd - in Russian, there is a separate term "hyperbolisation" (from the Greek word "hyperbole" which means "exaggeration") and it means the famous artistic technique known as hyperbolisation/hyperbolize (and all that Ostego wrote under the spoiler). That said, there is also the hyperbolisation theorem, with exactly the same spelling of the word. Anyway, it's just linguistic peculiarities in the meaning/spelling of the same term/word within English and Russian. ;)

As for my opinion on a possible Victoria win, I wasn't trying to exaggerate anything, I really wouldn't mind seeing a hot alternate ending where Melanie, say, finally becomes Victoria's personal slave after going through the whole "transformation". But at the same time, I'm totally against that little blonde bitch defeating Monica. And yes, as I've written many times before, I'd like to see a final ending where Monica and Melanie defeat Victoria and she gets what she deserves for everything she's done :devilish:(and that would be canon to me).
I'm glad the word "Hyperbolization" makes sense to all the Russian speakers. In English there is no such word other than the name of the mathematics theorem of hyperbolization.
I don't want to see Victoria get the upper hand on Monica in the end either. But I fully expect it to happen in several endings.
 

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So the new update... maybe im stupid what are the changes in the Shining Hole i don´t see any new content there?
To see the new (v5) Shiny Hole content, your Monica must have the "VIP Escort" storyline active. You can see what to do next
You also need to have had Monica work for Mommy on the street corner to get any of the ep4 Shiny Hole content.
 
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Stan5851

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You also need to have had Monica work for Mommy on the street corner to get any of the ep4 Shiny Hole content.
Are you sure? Because if I think back to ep3, for example, my decent Monica became the Queen of Shiny Hole without prostituting herself at all...For my second playthrough (bitchy and lecherous) in ep4, I used a save from Ostego where all storylines were active (including Slums/prostitution), so it's hard for me to say if this condition (Monica working for her Mommy) is mandatory to unlock v5 Shiny Hole content. And there's no mention of it in the walkthrough. Hmm.. :unsure:
 

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Are you sure? Because if I think back to ep3, for example, my decent Monica became the Queen of Shiny Hole without prostituting herself at all...For my second playthrough (bitchy and lecherous) in ep4, I used a save from Ostego where all storylines were active (including Slums/prostitution), so it's hard for me to say if this condition (Monica working for her Mommy) is mandatory to unlock v5 Shiny Hole content. And there's no mention of it in the walkthrough. Hmm.. :unsure:
You need to have had Monica meet the red headed prostitute before the ep4v2 scene with the gloryhole will open. To meet her Monica has to work at least once for Mommy on the street. And as of now the v5 scenes in the Shiny Hole will not show up in the event list unless the gloryhole scene has been played.

This is a quote from the walkthrough you linked.

"v 0.2
needs to head to in the evening, select the "Toilet Cleaning" option from the menu, and clean the bar's toilets instead of . The scene is available provided that Monica is acquainted with the prostitutes working for at the , and that isn't at the bar that evening (animated scene)."

It's also needed to have played through the VIP scenes in ep4 up to when Tiffany is working there for the v5 Shiny Hole scenes to be available, not to just have the VIP path open at the start of ep4.

It is weird now that to continue any Shiny Hole content in ep4 Monica needs to be working both of the prostitution jobs. As you said she was able to become the manager at the end of ep3 without having to have anything to do with prostitution.
 
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sorry if this have asked before , but I would like to ask if Monica didn't accept to give bj to stranger in the slums is locked out of Mommy and prostitution content permanently?
Apologise for my English as they are not my native language.
 

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I've checked it and I changed the according variable to "False" but that doesn't seem to make the trick and as I have advanced enough from this choice I don't want to load previous save.

Thanks for the answer anyway.
 

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I've checked it and I changed the according variable to "False" but that doesn't seem to make the trick and as I have advanced enough from this choice I don't want to load previous save.

Thanks for the answer anyway.
Shouldnt you "change" it to True?
 

bvs-2008

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IIt was to true and according to FAQ
Or you can change this variable via the developer console (in the game itself)
store.ep214_slums_offer_activated = False
 

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I've checked it and I changed the according variable to "False" but that doesn't seem to make the trick and as I have advanced enough from this choice I don't want to load previous save.

Thanks for the answer anyway.
also when you have changed you need to ask for a bj again
or else mommy don't see you
 

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also when you have changed you need to ask for a bj again
or else mommy don't see you
o_O :LOL: I haven't visited this thread in a minute and the first thing I see are those 2 lines of text.

I have to change ask for a BJ or mommy wont see me....:ROFLMAO:

Out of context (at least I hope) those 2 lines are :oops:

Sorry I'm going to go read the rest of the posts so I can ask for a BJ and have mommy see me again:ROFLMAO::LOL:
 

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o_O :LOL: I haven't visited this thread in a minute and the first thing I see are those 2 lines of text.

I have to change ask for a BJ or mommy wont see me....:ROFLMAO:

Out of context (at least I hope) those 2 lines are :oops:

Sorry I'm going to go read the rest of the posts so I can ask for a BJ and have mommy see me again:ROFLMAO::LOL:
just to be clear it's stranger there ask
and you said no first time
so you have to accept now
 

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I know that I am supposed to talk to the stranger but I don't get this option anymore. Maybe the fault is that I change the variable in the game folder and not in game console as the Ctl + o doesn't work for me. Thank you all for your try to help.
 

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It is weird now that to continue any Shiny Hole content in ep4 Monica needs to be working both of the prostitution jobs. As you said she was able to become the manager at the end of ep3 without having to have anything to do with prostitution.
You need to have had Monica meet the red headed prostitute before the ep4v2 scene with the gloryhole will open. To meet her Monica has to work at least once for Mommy on the street. And as of now the v5 scenes in the Shiny Hole will not show up in the event list unless the gloryhole scene has been played.

This is a quote from the walkthrough you linked.

"v 0.2
needs to head to in the evening, select the "Toilet Cleaning" option from the menu, and clean the bar's toilets instead of . The scene is available provided that Monica is acquainted with the prostitutes working for at the , and that isn't at the bar that evening (animated scene)."

It's also needed to have played through the VIP scenes in ep4 up to when Tiffany is working there for the v5 Shiny Hole scenes to be available, not to just have the VIP path open at the start of ep4.

It is weird now that to continue any Shiny Hole content in ep4 Monica needs to be working both of the prostitution jobs. As you said she was able to become the manager at the end of ep3 without having to have anything to do with prostitution.
It's not that simple... :unsure: If we take my Monica's journey (decent playthrough), here's what it looks like in the context of all the episodes.
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then after Monica's little monologue is the scene of her first introduction to prostitutes. (yes, I remember about the grey mouse). So we have Ep4v1 and the opportunity to join the Work fom Mommy prostitutes for the first time! However, even without ever working for this pimp or even approaching or interacting with her, such a Monica can still get a Glory Hole scene in v2. Below I'll explain why this is possible.
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To summarize the above.

In my opinion, it would be more correct if the huge "Slum Prostitution" path and the equally huge "Shinу Hole" path were not hardwired to each other. Plus, it goes against the game's concept, which states that most paths are independent of each other and the player can only choose what they like.

Obviously this doesn't always work when it comes to the main Office/Photoshoot storyline, but that's where the "rules have their own rules"...

But when two side and simultaneously gigantic storylines (Shiny Hole and Slum Prostitution) become tied to each other, the variation and ability to abandon one (Prostitution) without sacrificing the other (Shiny Hole) is lost, and thus a certain freedom of choice is lost, which is not a good thing. (imo)
 
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I know that I am supposed to talk to the stranger but I don't get this option anymore. Maybe the fault is that I change the variable in the game folder and not in game console as the Ctl + o doesn't work for me. Thank you all for your try to help.
Try this method. (taken from the FAQ ( 1.4.15))
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I know that I am supposed to talk to the stranger but I don't get this option anymore. Maybe the fault is that I change the variable in the game folder and not in game console as the Ctl + o doesn't work for me. Thank you all for your try to help.
i hope you still have a backup on the file you have messed with
or have the zip file you downloaded so you can extract the game again
 
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