Llamamann

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I should probably stop spamming that but it’s so dang relevant to everyone’s comments. I’m rewriting and reorganizing scenes in an accessible format that’s more enjoyable to play
 

GilgaGames

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Game Developer
Jul 28, 2019
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Bad time for the developer to raise tiers. The game was not doing that well. You're supposed to raise tiers when the graph is going up not down.
 

truerty

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Dec 30, 2018
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Bad time for the developer to raise tiers. The game was not doing that well. You're supposed to raise tiers when the graph is going up not down.
When Lee was introduced, there was an element of fear added into the game. People were intrigued and started wondering "what's gonna happen now, is she gonna cheat or what else" several questions were raised and it piqued interest. And then non-ntr fans came along and throwed a tantrum and forced SNC to rewrite everything and butchered the game.

Now after it got mangled and disfigured, non-ntr fans are nowhere in sight (they all seem to have left) and SNC don't know how to fix it back up. Classic.

Last update was so bad, I rarely ever visit this thread anymore!
 

punisher2099

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Feb 25, 2020
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When Lee was introduced, there was an element of fear added into the game. People were intrigued and started wondering "what's gonna happen now, is she gonna cheat or what else" several questions were raised and it piqued interest. And then non-ntr fans came along and throwed a tantrum and forced SNC to rewrite everything and butchered the game.

Now after it got mangled and disfigured, non-ntr fans are nowhere in sight (they all seem to have left) and SNC don't know how to fix it back up. Classic.

Last update was so bad, I rarely ever visit this thread anymore!
ntr fans coerced SNC to rewrite the game first for half assed ntr. Its basically going back to how it started with no ntr and guess who's throwing a tantrem now?
 

Macinnes

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Feb 19, 2020
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A scat tag needs to be added to the game. I just ran across it with Ann in the bathroom trying to avoid the golden shower scene. In V 0.12 all that happened was Ann got off the toilet and wanted you to pound her ass then the scene transitioned into Melinda coming in the bathroom. Now instead Ann sits back on the toilet and lets it rip. Both scenes are REALLY, REALLY not my thing , gross. This game has more and more scenes with urination and scat fetish scenes that are unavoidable as it progresses. Fuck NTR this shit is gross and that's my two cents.
 

dokley

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Jan 9, 2019
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ntr fans coerced SNC to rewrite the game first for half assed ntr. Its basically going back to how it started with no ntr and guess who's throwing a tantrem now?
When Lee was introduced, there was an element of fear added into the game. People were intrigued and started wondering "what's gonna happen now, is she gonna cheat or what else" several questions were raised and it piqued interest. And then non-ntr fans came along and throwed a tantrum and forced SNC to rewrite everything and butchered the game.

Now after it got mangled and disfigured, non-ntr fans are nowhere in sight (they all seem to have left) and SNC don't know how to fix it back up. Classic.

Last update was so bad, I rarely ever visit this thread anymore!
He is trying get the NTR fan base back, some $30 tier person said there is some Lee and Jax uncut scenes in this holiday version, I’m partly responsible that you guys didn’t get the full Lee contents, because in v1 he cut my scenes and I got mad, so I didn’t give him the second half, SNC didn’t want anymore of my ideas anyway, not just the negative pateron dm he revived, he felt unless ashamed using my ideas, so made some bs excuses said I shouldn’t side track my story, then where the fuck is the murder story? He had a choice before chapter 2 he asked me should I do NTR patch or 2 versions, I wrote some Non-NTR ideas for him and he didn’t reply, He might think it’s too much work, well making money is not easy, look how lazy his last update was, now he is going to throw some NTR fan art so he will get some fans back, give me a break, I think the Johnny army is on holiday, if they see this holiday version they will be back to their job
 
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truerty

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Dec 30, 2018
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ntr fans coerced SNC to rewrite the game first for half assed ntr. Its basically going back to how it started with no ntr and guess who's throwing a tantrem now?
Oh good you guys are here, thought you guys have left this game for a second there! Nice.

Are you suggesting I'm throwing a tantrum? Well check how many posts I've made in this thread and see if any of them are about begging to change the storyline, or whining, or shaming people for having a fetish. I simply just gave up and moved on, and in my previous comment i was only explaining to that person what went wrong.

Also make sure to leave that facepalm reaction, i so miss it these days.
 

Chemmy

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Jun 10, 2018
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NTR or not, it doesn't bother me, just as long the story is good and how it was implemented into the game. I play these games for the story and challenges really, if ntr gets added or not, i don't care, just keep the story good and on track, by finding out on who killed the MC parents.
 
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TrueJackal

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Jul 7, 2020
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the fact that there's no grind doesn't make me appreciate the scenes I get ... it was the reason why I personally loved the scenes with Melinda, it felt like you earned and deserved it but now it's just becoming like any average VN out here
I strongly disagree. There are more ways to make scenes feel earned.

1) Many great VNs use good writing and branching paths to make scenes feel earned.
2) A lock and key, point and click style is a fine method of progression that doesn't require the needless repetition. It also leaves plenty of room for new dialogue and character interactions to introduce progression without feeling like you're running in circles.

The grinding isn't just bad because it's boring. It's bad because you as a player don't know if you need to repeat a scene 5 more times, or if you have to go unlock something, THEN repeat a scene 5 more times. Repeating a scene several times is arbitrary, and if the dev made it clear that you were just doing the same scene with the same dialogue it would feel stupid.

If they really want to use grinding, they should have different dialogue every time, and let players know clearly what scenes they're missing and what they can do to get them. When you help Ann with the dishes, it should show you right there what points are being increased. And there should be a logbook that lets you know what scenes you don't have yet, and how to get them.

A lock and key system would also work as you'd be fulfilling quests and interacting with characters the whole time, so you'd get to know them before fucking them. There are so many options that are so much better.
 

amin2020

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Dec 10, 2020
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He is trying get the NTR fan base back, some $30 tier person said these is some Lee and Jax uncut scenes in this holiday version, I’m partly responsible that you guys didn’t get the full Lee contents, because in v1 he cut my scenes and I got mad, so I didn’t give him the second half, SNC didn’t want anymore of my ideas anyway, not just the negative pateron dm he revived, he felt unless ashamed using my ideas, so made some bs excuses said I shouldn’t side track my story, then where the fuck is the murder story? He had a choice before chapter 2 he asked me should I do NTR patch or 2 versions, I wrote some Non-NTR ideas for him and he didn’t reply, He might think it’s too much work, well making money is not easy, look how lazy his last update was, now he is going to throw some NTR fan art so he will get some fans back, give me a break, I think the Johnny army is on holiday, if they see this holiday version they will be back to their job
Do you have a link for the special holiday version?
 
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qweasd55

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Nov 28, 2018
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NTR or not, it doesn't bother me, just as long the story is good and how it was implemented into the game. I play these games for the story and challenges really, if ntr gets added or not, i don't care, just keep the story good and on track, by finding out on who killed the MC parents.
but i cant see till now any progress at it .. he only go sleep with every one ignoring the fact that his parents dead and cynthia also i thought she will investigate more and we see more action but nothing yet
 

Chemmy

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but i cant see till now any progress at it .. he only go sleep with every one ignoring the fact that his parents dead and cynthia also i thought she will investigate more and we see more action but nothing yet
after reading that, i do have to agree with you on that, just have to wait if see, if nothing change like a big story update, then i might just give up on this one, just have to see what is in the updates when they get release
 
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