I think it would be an interesting addition if some of the characters would actually get pregnant and have babies after the main character has sex with them. As someone said in the game, "the species must continue!"
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What is NTR?
I think NTR is one of the least understood or most commonly confused fetishes out there. Specifically, it's where you have Person A and Person B who are in a romantic relationship. Then Person C (usually a man) comes along and one of the two lovers willingly cheats on / forsakes their romantic partner in favor of Person C. Then the other partner ends up just accepting the cheating. For it to be netorare, the scenario must satisfy the following conditions:
- A and B are in a relationship already (doesn't have to be a happy one; often it's not).
- C comes and flirts with A or B.
- A cheats on B (or B cheats on A) to be with C.
- The cheating must be willing; rape, some kind of trickery, etc., doesn't count.
- Whichever was faithful will allow themselves to be cuckolded (they are willfully ignorant, they feel powerless, they believe they deserve it, etc.).
- Rape is not NTR. (The victim isn't willing.)
- Swingers are not NTR. (The cuckold must be faithful; swinging is technically not being faithful.)
- A wife who tries her best to keep a marriage together but whose husband cheats with his secretary at work is not NTR. (The wife didn't willingly allow her husband to cheat on her.)
- A husband who's cheated on and then cheats in revenge is not NTR. (The initial cheating, as explained above, is not NTR. The follow-up revenge is also not NTR; the husband would have to just accept and allow it, which he doesn't.)
- Someone in an open relationship who finds someone else he or she likes better is not NTR. Because the relationship is open, there's no expectation of faithfulness, so that condition cannot be met.
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Pretty much all the things you listed that aren't NTR are NTR (rape can become NTR). The other people being aware of it or willingly allowing don't specifically make it NTR.
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I never said an initial event couldn't turn into NTR later. But rape itself isn't NTR. You could argue that it may at first be rape but then the victim starts liking it during the process. I'm specifically talking about rape where the victim hates it the entire time. It's never willing in that case and so can't be NTR.
I never said whether others had to be aware of it. If a wife gives her husband the go-ahead to cheat (but she won't cheat herself in return), it could be NTR even if she doesn't know of a specific instance of the cheating, because she's accepting it.
Being willing is baked into the definition. The idea is a "stealing" of another's lover's affections. How can you steal someone's affections if they're unwilling to cheat? That makes no sense.
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The secretary at work stealing the husband's affection doesn't care about the wife (and neither does the husband). So how does that not constitute NTR?
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The relationship doesn't have to be a happy one. The husband cheating on the wife and not caring about her doesn't determine whether she's willing to allow the cheating. Also, let me be clear: I do not want to detour this thread into off-topic terrain. People kept asking about NTR, so I tried to help people better understand it.
There is a lot of confusion in Western culture about the concept, probably partly exacerbated by some Japanese NTR works that skirt the borders of NTR:
Note that, in these three examples, the cheater is eventually willing (although often reluctant or against it at first). In Netorare New Heroine, the husband is an example of willful ignorance: he basically pimps out his wife in the comic, so what did he expect was going to happen?
In Hinata NTRism, as HiEv says, "the person cheating initially did so unwillingly", but by the end they enjoyed it immensely. What doesn't start out as NTR can eventually turn into NTR. The same is true in Tsuma To Charao Ga Kieta NTR Bedroom.
Thus, so long as there is no willing cheating, it's not NTR. But if that turns into willful cheating (enjoyment), it becomes NTR at that point.
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I don't really agree with anything you said, but as you say, I don't want to bring this back to a page-long definition of NTR.
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Sorry for late reply. but you are forgetting 1 important part. earth no longer excist. so that means everything earth related no longer does either so the marriage was practicly over and since mc knows the wife cheated and the daughters arent his he is going to confront them whenever their memory bet back. So in the end mc is not going to raise wife kids since he will be chosing someone else their are so many other girls now mc does not need a cheating wife.. unless using her as a cumdump but staying faithfull to her will not be an option.
I think that the main character's family should get their memories back right around the time that Zoey gives birth to the main character's baby.
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Thread updated
No one was going for the 25$ as previous updates were garbage
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