What I'm worried about is this, is it really six more chapters? or is it one chapter from six different points of view? Because unless I've misread things then it looks like it's the latter, and that isn't satisfying at all. It may not be rushed from a work point of view, but from a story point of view it isn't even slamming on the brakes, it's slamming in to a brick wall at 60. It's not extending the story, it's ending it in six different ways. Did I get the wrong idea? I really want to be wrong here.
We haven't had our first date with Melody, both her and Leah are just starting to break down some of their walls. Karina has pretty much just been introduced then put to the side, without ever having really addressed seeing both her and her sister. Hailey has been completely ignored now - despite having her house ransacked and everyone being oh so worried about her. Alice is the only one who's been prominent enough to feel like they weren't completely rushed, until you consider they have just got to their first real crisis and instead of dealing with it - "much, much later."
This getting to a crisis point is really important for a story, it allows for much deeper character development but instead of playing it out and working through it together with everyone, it gets skipped. I realise that to some degree it should be coming in the retrospectives, but it should be done before being forced to choose. The way it was handled doesn't make much sense when looking at how tight-nit everyone is with each other, either. I don't believe that Alice would choose to move in to a dorm over finding somewhere with the MC or other girls, or that Hailey would do something other than try to help them, either by taking them in with her or helping them look for somewhere to live (doesn't mean all three would end up living together, I can see plenty of ways it doesn't, but a timeskip doesn't allow for that to play out in a meaningful way.)
The only one there that you could really make a final decision on is Alice, and only then because she's been so prominent. Everyone feels like they need that crisis to be played out so that they can get the character development time they need, before it gets to a place where you're forced to choose. If that's how you want to end then it's fine, but it feels like you need an additional six chapters instead of that first timeskip.
In short it feels like we're about to get to a point where we can really get to know the characters, everything has been set up for that, only to be told that we know them well enough by now so make a decision.
I hope you know that everyone's reaction is coming from a good place, because we're all passionate about this game, its story and the characters contained within. More than anything I hope you manage to make us all look silly for getting worked up over it. I hope you nail this, I'm just having a hard time seeing how with the way things are going. Good luck.
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I don't know what happening here ... but if next version is actually the final ...
... for real, I'm like only follow less than 10 games these days as there's a lot of good games also completed or abandoned. Many new games are still like v0.2~v0.5, I'm not that interest to play game without solid content. Is something happen to the Dev team ? ... I'm too lazy to read 50 pages back comments filled with useless rambling.
... for real, I'm like only follow less than 10 games these days as there's a lot of good games also completed or abandoned. Many new games are still like v0.2~v0.5, I'm not that interest to play game without solid content. Is something happen to the Dev team ? ... I'm too lazy to read 50 pages back comments filled with useless rambling.
- Jun 30, 2018
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Ahm, nope? She's dead after all. I'd rather talk with the wife and little Missy.
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It seems to me that you're probably right. It will be 6 'updates' giving the final chapter depending on your decisions. Now I've seen this kind of thing play out in multiple Japanese 'dating' sims where you trigger the correct flags throughout the story and then get the specific character ending and although it was left with multiple decisions for who you end up with, maybe you'll pass or fail the flag check dependant on your choices? I don't know....
To the devs, this was a total downer of an update, you left that last update hanging with their parents returning home, then this update they get back and everyone's anxious, there's internal debate from the MC, a blowup at both parents and Haley moving out and more MC angst as he decides over what to do with his relationships, his life and where he's going to live. Flash forward to the MC walking along with his dog and his Dad calls him to reminisce while remarking on the failure of his own relationship and we're given the options for who we finally chose to end up with; to be recapped in later updates. Goodbye plot development, nothing matters except the 6 options you're faced with but only if you've fulfilled all the requirements. Get used to people not being happy with this update as it's your choke point. Maybe there will be plenty of content to come with some defining moments for the characters but this is the update that kills any further choice (if I'm not mistaken) and cuts off character development and the open plot lines. I mean, the last 4 updates (I think) had Aunt Hailey and her issues ending with her house being broken into and needing support, then nothing?
I hope the subsequent updates finish out the story well and I'll try to be optimistic but it feels like you've been told the work has to be finished by Monday and you thought you had the rest of the year to do it and you're frantically trying to wrap everything up so that it at least has a coherent ending.
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An ending that doesn't include the dear and prosperous aunt, doesn't seem possible to me
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Wow, its like "Oh, Hey, Dev . . . Finish it . . . NOW!" But feel free to take the time to close out the story, just do it really, really fast so that the players all feel underwhelmed and disappointed."
Its really sad, this is one of my "go to" games, the ones I wait each month for the next update to see what happens, and now . . now that feeling is mostly gone, other than the "well, lets see how the endings go"
Oh, and WTF, Haily, HELLO!
I have to assume the Dev just got tired of this project and is at least kind enough not to abandon it (or a outside influence is effecting the change, ie girlfriend wants dev to stop wasting time on stupid porn games) Whatever it is, I hope the Dev feels the guilt and disappointment that this decision has engendered in the player base.
Its really sad, this is one of my "go to" games, the ones I wait each month for the next update to see what happens, and now . . now that feeling is mostly gone, other than the "well, lets see how the endings go"
Oh, and WTF, Haily, HELLO!
I have to assume the Dev just got tired of this project and is at least kind enough not to abandon it (or a outside influence is effecting the change, ie girlfriend wants dev to stop wasting time on stupid porn games) Whatever it is, I hope the Dev feels the guilt and disappointment that this decision has engendered in the player base.
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Dad just got back was heading home and then this error.
While running game code:
File "game/ver26.rpy", line 24, in script
f neutral "[name]. Good to see you."
Exception: Say has image attributes (u'neutral',), but there's no image tag associated with the speaking character.
While running game code:
File "game/ver26.rpy", line 24, in script
f neutral "[name]. Good to see you."
Exception: Say has image attributes (u'neutral',), but there's no image tag associated with the speaking character.
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The only good thing I saw about this update is that one of the choices is "I chose everyone". Still didn't like this update much it is to depressing but what really doesn't make sense about this update is that they ALL go to the same school so why didn't they ALL just not get a place together? Also I really hope Aunt Hailey will be added. What guy in his right mind would want to let go of her?
Well now I have to go an play another VN so I can get rid of the sadness this update made me feel.
Well now I have to go an play another VN so I can get rid of the sadness this update made me feel.
I don't know what to say, this game had and incredible potential and a story that could be really long and then... this update. Really the dev is going do this?
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Like I said guy in his RIGHT mind
well there is really not much more to say about all of this exept that it will not be the same when all the rest that has been not told in the story will be told in the endings,because that will be a story told from the past then.
because of that it will be a kind of Kinetic Novell without choices like click through it till the end.i doubt that you will have choices to make that will impact the story,then it would be not a story the MC tells his father from his past anymore.
i mean it startet way way earlier in the game already the feeling that i play a Kinetic Novell here because the few choices given had no really effect on the game.i think from the time Karina meeting the MC in the park for his clothes it startet to getting worse.
Before the beach trip there was already next to no action anymore with Alice and that kind of gave me a little bit of feeling that they beginning to grow apart from each other,and until now still nothing with Alice.
then after the beach trip it was all Harley and boom harley was gone again as fast as she was in the last update,and all the time it kind of feld like a Kinetic Novel.
ok the handling with their parents moving in untill the house is sold,and to throw their two children out of their home,well that was a really,really shitty part of the last update,and right AFTER that confrontation with his dad in the kitchen comes the first time skip.
the second time skip with a few years would have been ok if the first timeskip for a few weeks didn´t happened,like the event now without the father calling him,like the MC is remembering to himself what lead him to where he is now from that point where they have been thrown out of the house???
because of that it will be a kind of Kinetic Novell without choices like click through it till the end.i doubt that you will have choices to make that will impact the story,then it would be not a story the MC tells his father from his past anymore.
i mean it startet way way earlier in the game already the feeling that i play a Kinetic Novell here because the few choices given had no really effect on the game.i think from the time Karina meeting the MC in the park for his clothes it startet to getting worse.
Before the beach trip there was already next to no action anymore with Alice and that kind of gave me a little bit of feeling that they beginning to grow apart from each other,and until now still nothing with Alice.
then after the beach trip it was all Harley and boom harley was gone again as fast as she was in the last update,and all the time it kind of feld like a Kinetic Novel.
ok the handling with their parents moving in untill the house is sold,and to throw their two children out of their home,well that was a really,really shitty part of the last update,and right AFTER that confrontation with his dad in the kitchen comes the first time skip.
the second time skip with a few years would have been ok if the first timeskip for a few weeks didn´t happened,like the event now without the father calling him,like the MC is remembering to himself what lead him to where he is now from that point where they have been thrown out of the house???
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OK, so having got the IC patch from fattrapper I was finally able to play this update. Well, maybe "play" is too strong a word as there wasn't really much to do here.
I agree with pretty much everyone that this seems to be wrapping up fairly quickly, but I don't think it comes out of nowhere in the context of the story. At this point, it's the end of the summer holidays and the MC has had a lot of fun with all these different girls during that time and now it's time to get back their studies. Personally, I would have found it quite boring if this story were to continue with them all back to school because it's basically them going back to the real world which is boring, whereas the holiday period was more free-wheeling and fun.
The time jump at the end is abrupt too, but it works in terms of making it easier to wrap up the story because rather than see it happen over the next who knows how many more updates and years of waiting, it could be done in just a few updates that hopefully won't take more than a year. Summing up the events of the past few years is better and quicker than playing out those years in the game.
The one thing I didn't like about it was the way Hailey was all but forgotten about. Not just the fact that she doesn't get an ending herself, but she's not even considered as part of the harem when the MC thinks about being with everyone. I guess she's someone he considers to have just been "sleeping with", as he tells his Dad at the end, but I really hope FFCreations has her as part of the harem at the very least, or maybe if he chooses none of the 4 other girls, he'll end up with Hailey.
Also, when the MC and Alice are told they need to move out, why did neither of them consider moving in with Hailey? Seems like that would've been a fairly logical option for them, considering they both get on well with her and she might welcome the company after her house was burgled.
I agree with pretty much everyone that this seems to be wrapping up fairly quickly, but I don't think it comes out of nowhere in the context of the story. At this point, it's the end of the summer holidays and the MC has had a lot of fun with all these different girls during that time and now it's time to get back their studies. Personally, I would have found it quite boring if this story were to continue with them all back to school because it's basically them going back to the real world which is boring, whereas the holiday period was more free-wheeling and fun.
The time jump at the end is abrupt too, but it works in terms of making it easier to wrap up the story because rather than see it happen over the next who knows how many more updates and years of waiting, it could be done in just a few updates that hopefully won't take more than a year. Summing up the events of the past few years is better and quicker than playing out those years in the game.
The one thing I didn't like about it was the way Hailey was all but forgotten about. Not just the fact that she doesn't get an ending herself, but she's not even considered as part of the harem when the MC thinks about being with everyone. I guess she's someone he considers to have just been "sleeping with", as he tells his Dad at the end, but I really hope FFCreations has her as part of the harem at the very least, or maybe if he chooses none of the 4 other girls, he'll end up with Hailey.
Also, when the MC and Alice are told they need to move out, why did neither of them consider moving in with Hailey? Seems like that would've been a fairly logical option for them, considering they both get on well with her and she might welcome the company after her house was burgled.