I left a very nice remark, i had to delete what I was saying three times because I realized how much of a jack ass I was being and I finally tried to make it nice and I am sooo tired that people think that cheating is ntr. on either side. sigh thanks for jumping in. Though i had to laugh that Wikipedia is being cited a a huge truthful and scholarly site. yet it can be altered by just anyone.
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- May 22, 2017
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Well-well-well, verzauberung left me a "nice" PM with the same kind of "arguments" that we have seen before. And I'm not going to keep this private only because the sender has no guts to write it openly. And of course, it was a "hit and run" PM, that is, he closed the conversation after that message. I will make public any messages of this kind, that's a promise. You can not hide your outbursts that way.
BTW, the netorare definition that I linked to, is one of the first and best articles on the genre that I found. It looks like it's based on the following sources that are even better (even with a few illustrations that are typical for the genre):
Obviously the original article is written by the people closest to the Japanese anime and its genres, they actually know what they're talking about. With lots of examples.
Just try to beat it with something better and we'll see which one actually is. So far I have seen no sources of information, just personal opinions and the word "Wikipedia" several times without any links.
In most cases Wikipedia is a good source, but definitely not in this case, because there is no article about netorare there. Just naming Wikipedia is not an argument. And all his arguments are based on that non-existent article in Wikipedia, his "trustworthy source" that anyone can edit and does not exist in English at this point. There is an article in German language and I guess that this is his "trustworthy source". Unfortunately for him, that article also supports the kind of description on the links above.
So, this was his message to me:
I believe that I could get banned if valid and logical arguments, based on good sources of information and not insulting anybody is the kind of behavior that is unwelcome here. If that is the case, then it's OK by me. I don't think I want to be here, if baseless arguments without any good sources, personal opinions, insults and "hit'n run" messages are the norm.
BTW, I did not and did not want to call him brainless, that's just his own reverse interpretation of my first sentence.
I believe that he just didn't understand the whole complexity of the term. Putting an equal sign between netorare and "cheating, adultery, being unfaithful, or having an affair" is a hugely oversimplified approach to a complex situation, something that does not have an actual word in other languages. The term NTR should never be used that lightly on simple cheating or having multiple partners, voyeurism or some other situations that are not NTR. For most people, that's an insult.
BTW, the netorare definition that I linked to, is one of the first and best articles on the genre that I found. It looks like it's based on the following sources that are even better (even with a few illustrations that are typical for the genre):
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Obviously the original article is written by the people closest to the Japanese anime and its genres, they actually know what they're talking about. With lots of examples.
Just try to beat it with something better and we'll see which one actually is. So far I have seen no sources of information, just personal opinions and the word "Wikipedia" several times without any links.
In most cases Wikipedia is a good source, but definitely not in this case, because there is no article about netorare there. Just naming Wikipedia is not an argument. And all his arguments are based on that non-existent article in Wikipedia, his "trustworthy source" that anyone can edit and does not exist in English at this point. There is an article in German language and I guess that this is his "trustworthy source". Unfortunately for him, that article also supports the kind of description on the links above.
So, this was his message to me:
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I believe that I could get banned if valid and logical arguments, based on good sources of information and not insulting anybody is the kind of behavior that is unwelcome here. If that is the case, then it's OK by me. I don't think I want to be here, if baseless arguments without any good sources, personal opinions, insults and "hit'n run" messages are the norm.
BTW, I did not and did not want to call him brainless, that's just his own reverse interpretation of my first sentence.
I believe that he just didn't understand the whole complexity of the term. Putting an equal sign between netorare and "cheating, adultery, being unfaithful, or having an affair" is a hugely oversimplified approach to a complex situation, something that does not have an actual word in other languages. The term NTR should never be used that lightly on simple cheating or having multiple partners, voyeurism or some other situations that are not NTR. For most people, that's an insult.
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Personally the misuse of the term NTR is irritating. I'm an engineer, an IT tech and definitions are required to be accurate. wikipedia definitely is not a scholarly source. other sites may not look "professional" and may or may not be scholarly. The key to if it is a good site to quote and use generally is who can edit it. Wikipedia and any other wiki sites can be edited by anyone. this means inaccuracies can be introduced without it being seen. Wikipedia and other wiki style are great places to GET an idea of where to go for research but never the actual source of such research. meh he doesn't want to talk to me either lol. i don't care anymore till the guy starts trying to make others believe that the incorrect is correct.
- May 22, 2017
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That is exactly why I find it irritating, too. The actual NTR is not my thing and throwing it around that lightly as a synonym for cheating, swinging or polygamic consensual type of relations or even a little complicated friendship is irritating, if not insulting.
BTW, I'm also an IT tech. Our job is to be accurate and understand definitions.
BTW, I'm also an IT tech. Our job is to be accurate and understand definitions.
- Aug 10, 2017
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well, I really worried abt gf path.
Let see wt happens.
Anybody is geting this error message when trying to load the game?
Black screen with this message:
Error
Fail to load: img/system/Window.png
Black screen with this message:
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Fail to load: img/system/Window.png
- Aug 10, 2017
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well, I really worried abt gf path.
Let see wt happens.
Pretty difficult game without a walkthrough guide tbh. Unless you are very thorough you will miss a lot of things.
Missed the Cassandra storyline because i didn't talk to the receptionist at the first day and start Yoga class. Didn't visit the bookstore or Convenience store on Day 1 to trigger the storyline with the red head and Kari. Didn't talk to Aura at the night time either in day 1.
Missed the Cassandra storyline because i didn't talk to the receptionist at the first day and start Yoga class. Didn't visit the bookstore or Convenience store on Day 1 to trigger the storyline with the red head and Kari. Didn't talk to Aura at the night time either in day 1.
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Can you fucking morons please stop boring everyone to death with your NTR discussions?
I'm pretty sure most people agree that we don't give a fuck how any of you defines NTR.
It's one of the most boring discussions on this forum and it happens again and again and again.
If one of the women I, as the MC of the game, fuck cheats on me, it sucks and I don't like it, whether you call that NTR or not, I don't care, I don't give a flying fuck.
I'm pretty sure most people agree that we don't give a fuck how any of you defines NTR.
It's one of the most boring discussions on this forum and it happens again and again and again.
If one of the women I, as the MC of the game, fuck cheats on me, it sucks and I don't like it, whether you call that NTR or not, I don't care, I don't give a flying fuck.
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Low Morality Path:
So, I choose to call Mary at the station and after I have the talk with Chris at the door next day, she talks about the beach and sending me a message to get there but nothing else happens no matter what I do.... am I missing something?
I have already seen the other events for that day I think, with Sonya/Tilda, Lilia/Ulya(beach), Grace, etc.
Also, is the ending with Lilia supposed to be that bonus scene we can't choose before running after Chris?
So, I choose to call Mary at the station and after I have the talk with Chris at the door next day, she talks about the beach and sending me a message to get there but nothing else happens no matter what I do.... am I missing something?
I have already seen the other events for that day I think, with Sonya/Tilda, Lilia/Ulya(beach), Grace, etc.
Also, is the ending with Lilia supposed to be that bonus scene we can't choose before running after Chris?
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The version in the OP hasn't all scenes. IE you can't choose to whom to call in the police station. I recommend download this:
My game is frozing at the end of day 3, at Aura linear event. Someone have a save for the morning on the day 4? Its the end of the game?
So, I gave a try to the version you suggested, UncleVT, and sadly got the same deal. After the scene with Ulya/Lilia on the beach, that's it, The game doesn't progress any further... evening doesn't even come, neither can I go to bed.
Am I to understand the scene with Chris at the beach (low morality) has not been releaed in 0.11?
Am I to understand the scene with Chris at the beach (low morality) has not been releaed in 0.11?