Others Abandoned Glamour [v0.57] [Dark Silver]

[zeromike]

She's not. Not even close.
Aside from the fact that within this version, where the status quo changes because of Alice finding out about the cameras, it also goes almost back to normal within the same version.

If anything, it shows her exploring her voyeuristic and exhibitionist sides far more, since she clearly enjoys watching and being watched doing things.
She doesn't block Max from fucking anyone, and is clearly steering things toward becoming more debauched than they already are, which will benefit both her and Max.

Alice has become a weird form of Eric. For instance Lisa has more sex with Alice than the MC now. She seems to prefer it over Max-if she doesn't then why want Alice to fuck her with the dildo so many times a week? Alice is just doing her stupid blackmailing thing again too. The reason she doesn't interfere with Max is because she wants views which means more money. She said she has some idea to involve Ann as well and god knows where that will go. Maybe you see it differently but Alice is getting worse and she was already annoying before. To each their own but if this new direction is glamour than it's not worth playing for dumb femdom fetishes.

 

[hunk66]

another pics from patreon post ?

 

[Revora]

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[Snugglepuff]

Alice has become a weird form of Eric.

No, she's hasn't. She's the same as she was in BB.
If DS had continued BB, what's happening with Alice now because of finding out about the cameras is consistent with how she was developed then, which is how she's been developed now.

This is the exact same argument people were making back then, and it's just as fallacious and stupid now, as it was then.

For instance Lisa has more sex with Alice than the MC now.

A tad hyperbolic...

She seems to prefer it over Max-if she doesn't then why want Alice to fuck her with the dildo so many times a week?

No, she doesn't.
She still approaches Max for sex, still approaches Max to do the different "sex-ed" lessons with Anne.

This time around, instead of Kira being the one to introduce Lisa to anal, so she wouldn't have to give up her virginity to Max, it's Alice doing it after Lisa's already been riding his dick like it's her best friend for life.

Alice is just doing her stupid blackmailing thing again too.

So?
It's perfectly in line with her character, and Max is more than willing to do it. The difference this time, is that Max is (barely) getting what he deserves after secretly profiting from spy-cams he set up round the house, that his family were oblivious of.
Even after he found out about Alice's camming, even after he'd conned his way into getting to fuck her on camera(s), he still kept up his privacy-violating profiteering.

The reason she doesn't interfere with Max is because she wants views which means more money.

No shit.
That's the entire reasoning behind Lisa and Max's involvement in her cam shows.

She said she has some idea to involve Ann as well and god knows where that will go.

Probably something to do with her being dressed as a maid, if the images from earlier are anything to go by.

Maybe you see it differently but Alice is getting worse and she was already annoying before.

"Maybe" I see it differently?
Of course I do, I saw this coming form miles away.

The bulk of the content when playing as Max is from BB, with comparatively minimal changes and additions.

To each their own but if this new direction is glamour than it's not worth playing for dumb femdom fetishes.

It's not a "new direction" for Glamour, it's a ridiculously obvious direction that this is where it was going for when playing as Max.
Even if you'd never played BB, playing as Kate, then Max, and actually paying attention to the content and characters, you too would have seen this kind of thing coming.

If you think anything from 0.43 classifies as Femdom, then you really need to go watch a shit-tonne of actual femdom porn, because even I can tell the difference, and femdom is one of the things I wouldn't touch with a barge pole.

 

[zeromike]

No, she's hasn't. She's the same as she was in BB.
If DS had continued BB, what's happening with Alice now because of finding out about the cameras is consistent with how she was developed then, which is how she's been developed now.

This is the exact same argument people were making back then, and it's just as fallacious and stupid now, as it was then.



A tad hyperbolic...



No, she doesn't.
She still approaches Max for sex, still approaches Max to do the different "sex-ed" lessons with Anne.

This time around, instead of Kira being the one to introduce Lisa to anal, so she wouldn't have to give up her virginity to Max, it's Alice doing it after Lisa's already been riding his dick like it's her best friend for life.



So?
It's perfectly in line with her character, and Max is more than willing to do it. The difference this time, is that Max is (barely) getting what he deserves after secretly profiting from spy-cams he set up round the house, that his family were oblivious of.
Even after he found out about Alice's camming, even after he'd conned his way into getting to fuck her on camera(s), he still kept up his privacy-violating profiteering.



No shit.
That's the entire reasoning behind Lisa and Max's involvement in her cam shows.



Probably something to do with her being dressed as a maid, if the images from earlier are anything to go by.



"Maybe" I see it differently?
Of course I do, I saw this coming form miles away.

The bulk of the content when playing as Max is from BB, with comparatively minimal changes and additions.



It's not a "new direction" for Glamour, it's a ridiculously obvious direction that this is where it was going for when playing as Max.
Even if you'd never played BB, playing as Kate, then Max, and actually paying attention to the content and characters, you too would have seen this kind of thing coming.

If you think anything from 0.43 classifies as Femdom, then you really need to go watch a shit-tonne of actual femdom porn, because even I can tell the difference, and femdom is one of the things I wouldn't touch with a barge pole.

lol they aren't even remotely the same. At least in BB it was hinted that she had feelings for Max which is why she was harsh to him. Where is that in Glamour? She is just a version of Eric-cockblocking, blackmailing, fucking the MCs girl now and maybe soon Ann will be next for the stream. Personally the camera thing was always stupid but how is it better for Alice to do it than Max? Oh it's the magic femdom porn trope that she is always untouchable. Bleh. Think what you want but watching Alice fucking Lisa 3-4 times a week is just not satisfying. It's no biggie because I don't force myself to play a game I think is aiming at a different audience. I still have an opinion though and I hear the dev might reverse this direction anyway so I am watching the game to see if it goes back to something less Alice centered.

 

[rctalon1972]

changes nothing



i also had like 40k$, now its 0..

i also had about 45k which i grinded the hell out of. were u as pissed as I was?

 

[Kaiadas]

i also had about 45k which i grinded the hell out of. were u as pissed as I was?

you know u can cheat money anytime u want though, right?

 

[Ottoeight]

lol they aren't even remotely the same. At least in BB it was hinted that she had feelings for Max which is why she was harsh to him. Where is that in Glamour? She is just a version of Eric-cockblocking, blackmailing, fucking the MCs girl now and maybe soon Ann will be next for the stream. Personally the camera thing was always stupid but how is it better for Alice to do it than Max? Oh it's the magic femdom porn trope that she is always untouchable. Bleh. Think what you want but watching Alice fucking Lisa 3-4 times a week is just not satisfying. It's no biggie because I don't force myself to play a game I think is aiming at a different audience. I still have an opinion though and I hear the dev might reverse this direction anyway so I am watching the game to see if it goes back to something less Alice centered.

I totally disagree with you. Femdom? there is no femdom at all.

Alice fucking Lisa? WUT? where? when? I've seen Max screwing Kate in front of Alice. I've seen Max screwing Lisa in front of Alice. Alice screwing Lisa in front of Max? sorry, but I don't remember that scene (I guess you're a bit confused because we've seen Lisa & Olivia doing it in front of Max). I do remember Max, Lisa and Alice.

What's missing and the Author should remember that this is what we really want to see is: Max & Alice alone; Max & Olivia & Lisa.


Anyway, I agree with the fact that Alice was sweeter with Max in BB.

 

[rctalon1972]

you know u can cheat money anytime u want though, right?

does that work with online version?

 

[Krugger]

She's not. Not even close.
Aside from the fact that within this version, where the status quo changes because of Alice finding out about the cameras, it also goes almost back to normal within the same version.

If anything, it shows her exploring her voyeuristic and exhibitionist sides far more, since she clearly enjoys watching and being watched doing things.
She doesn't block Max from fucking anyone, and is clearly steering things toward becoming more debauched than they already are, which will benefit both her and Max.

I think you got me wrong, not that Alice became or will become a female version of Eric, but it seems DS is such a coward that she asked her $40 audience if they wanted to put Eric in the story and the answer was no. So he took a rather boring character (Alice was a bit boring in BB, but she was totally submissive) to make her dominant. Not that I'm against femdom content, but the game isn't getting much focus since DS already created its game with the corrupted family. What will DS do in future updates? get Max to fight Alice to see who the Alpha will be? It was a lot more fun when there was Eric, at least the story was developed, as I said a few times ago, Kira seems to be an figurant character, just like Olivia too, is he developing a script for both characters? I don't think so. At least with Eric, you could develop the character of Kira, she being blackmailed by Eric and him fucking her in hiding from Ann. But it seems that there are people who are sensitive, they don't like to see another dick fucking a woman, they get inside the character, they get jealous of a porn game! So, as you talked about the hidden cameras in the house, not even in the old game did it cause any interference or big impact, because for me the cameras were the only way for Max to get his money, DS could have made other options at the time, but as the game has a "parody" of Big Brother, he chose it anyway. So like you said, Alice finds out about this and it looks like she doesn't really care, or rather, starts to like it, but for me this script is not logical, actually, I don't see much of Alice being a blackmailer sister, because she doesn't have many resources to blackmail. What will she do? "Oh Max, you put a hidden camera in my room and created a website that stays 24/7 making people watch me? I'm going to punish you, now, eat me!" Wow, very creative this. Or is Alice going to make Max her slave or make him a sissy? But I understand what you're trying to say about it, but for me, some things just don't fit.

 

[Krugger]

I totally disagree with you. Femdom? there is no femdom at all.

Alice fucking Lisa? WUT? where? when? I've seen Max screwing Kate in front of Alice. I've seen Max screwing Lisa in front of Alice. Alice screwing Lisa in front of Max? sorry, but I don't remember that scene (I guess you're a bit confused because we've seen Lisa & Olivia doing it in front of Max). I do remember Max, Lisa and Alice.

What's missing and the Author should remember that this is what we really want to see is: Max & Alice alone; Max & Olivia & Lisa.


Anyway, I agree with the fact that Alice was sweeter with Max in BB.

I think you stopped at version 0.3x.. But there really isn't a 100% femdom, but there is. Alice punishes Max, in the old game, it was Max who punished Alice, be spanked or fucked. Alice ties Max to her bed, but before that, Alice tied Max to a chair and watched her and Kate "have sex", but then you have Kate interacting with Max and sitting on his cock. Now, during the game, every time Max goes to fuck Ann in daylight, Alice shows up to watch. Anyway, not that this is bad, on the contrary, is part of the DS script. DS doesn't want to make Max a male chauvinist character, that dominant character who only fucks girls or that it only satisfies your desires. We will have the continuation of Alice punishing Lisa, in the next will be Ann.

Alice fucking Lisa with her new [strapon] plastic cock. (Alice's Punishment)

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[Snugglepuff]

lol they aren't even remotely the same.

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I think you got me wrong, not that Alice became or will become a female version of Eric,

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[LucT]

I think it's a pity that is missing in history first time Alice fuck Lisa's ass.

 

[BDI]

I think you got me wrong, not that Alice became or will become a female version of Eric, but it seems DS is such a coward that she asked her $40 audience if they wanted to put Eric in the story and the answer was no. So he took a rather boring character (Alice was a bit boring in BB, but she was totally submissive) to make her dominant. Not that I'm against femdom content, but the game isn't getting much focus since DS already created its game with the corrupted family. What will DS do in future updates? get Max to fight Alice to see who the Alpha will be? It was a lot more fun when there was Eric, at least the story was developed, as I said a few times ago, Kira seems to be an figurant character, just like Olivia too, is he developing a script for both characters? I don't think so. At least with Eric, you could develop the character of Kira, she being blackmailed by Eric and him fucking her in hiding from Ann. But it seems that there are people who are sensitive, they don't like to see another dick fucking a woman, they get inside the character, they get jealous of a porn game! So, as you talked about the hidden cameras in the house, not even in the old game did it cause any interference or big impact, because for me the cameras were the only way for Max to get his money, DS could have made other options at the time, but as the game has a "parody" of Big Brother, he chose it anyway. So like you said, Alice finds out about this and it looks like she doesn't really care, or rather, starts to like it, but for me this script is not logical, actually, I don't see much of Alice being a blackmailer sister, because she doesn't have many resources to blackmail. What will she do? "Oh Max, you put a hidden camera in my room and created a website that stays 24/7 making people watch me? I'm going to punish you, now, eat me!" Wow, very creative this. Or is Alice going to make Max her slave or make him a sissy? But I understand what you're trying to say about it, but for me, some things just don't fit.

I think that I read something bace a few pages about the next update was to be about Max, hopefully.

 

[Snugglepuff]

I think that I read something bace a few pages about the next update was to be about Max, hopefully.

It is a Max update.
Both from what DS has posted (shared here) and the Max-side centric images from Patreon.

 

[YKKE_boi]

Hello guys, i dont know if i am done with the Alice version of the game, if not what i have to do to progress further.

 

[Ahchi]

Hello guys, i dont know if i am done with the Alice version of the game, if not what i have to do to progress further.

A wee bit more still

 

[firevoodoo]

From those previews it looks like the next update is Max's one again. At least I hope so.

 

[Dragon59]

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Spoiler: Highly unlikely. The closest we could see to anything remotely like this, or an Eric-like character, would be if/when Max is in college, and only if DS actually uses existing characters in the way that fits what he's already done with them.

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Dramaturgy! I love it.

Spoiler: It wasn't developed, and Eric was terrible as an antagonist.

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Sometimes, I think the only core purpose Eric served (other than adding tension in the early part of the game) was to make Max look better not as bad. He looked like a villain and it was a wonder all the women were so blind. Thereby setting up that without Max, their (short) lives would have been so much worse.

Spoiler: That was another example of "gaping plothole" and also where, because Eric, a woman completely changes character and becomes dumb as fuck.

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I was disappointed that the more worldly wise Kira was starting to be taken in by Eric. I expected that she would see through him. I'm certain she's had to learn how to deals with "Erics" in the porn industry. At least they came up with an explanation of why Ann was so vulnerable. Of course, almost setting it up that Ann needed to be controlled, so better Max than someone outside.

Spoiler: It was supposed to be his main source of income, because that's how DS wrote it. He also linked it to an abandoned plot point that tied to Eric, but was another thing that was left untouched for so long, because the spineless fuck lets patrons choose the direction of the game. He's been doing the same with Glamour, and to the point of repeating content polls until he patrons vote on what he's been wanting to do for some time.

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That became my biggest frustration with the game. I think I could have put up with many of DS's own choices (much like we can see cultural influences in some of the games, whether written Germans, Russians, and others), but when he decided to focus on what the $40 patrons wanted, Glamour seemed to lose a lot.

Spoiler: That will never happen. That would kill DS's patron numbers worse than abandoning BB did.

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Yeah, if his $40 patrons insist on it. I still see DS as being old school in many ways, such as creating Glamour as only marginally better than BB in graphics, and still using stiff mannequin poses and expressions in many of his renders.

 

[Snugglepuff]

Alice was not totally submissive, true, I always forget about your girlfriend and that lesbian content, but anyway, she pretty much accepted almost anything Max asked.

In BB, that was through Kate, and money to Alice's cam-shows that Max had been secretly setting things up with through an anonymous account.

I find it very difficult to happen, DS create another male NPC that has Eric characteristics or similar.

Already has. Go play as Kate, and you'll find them easily.
With the plans for Max to (eventually) attend the same college as Kate, those characters could easily be used in a similar role to Eric, but restricted to college things only.

There are two types of developers, those trying to create their story/script and those who cannot create their story/script. Many end up paying attention to their patrons and let it interfere with your dramaturgy.

Indeed, and DS is certainly the latter of the two.

Eric was a terrible character, that's why many hate him. It was very poorly developed, as well as other characters in the house. He should be the center of tension, the crank that makes the valve turn, but what does he do? a character without charisma for villain. Another problem with this is that there are many who don't like "NTR" or just seeing a share, are adults who cry for nothing, seems to me to be a sulky teenager. If you look at BBAS, you will see that those people have the same thought, "I don't want to see Eric in the game". I always gave the idea that Eric would be a wolf, whoever arrives at the house greets everyone, give compliments and watches Max. He sees how Max looks at his sisters, mother, and tries to make small talk trying to trick Max to become your "buddy". If Max chooses to be your friend, Eric will give him some benefits, for example, letting Max watch Eric fuck Ann and then have Max participate in hiding using a blindfold on Ann. But if Max wants to be your enemy, he will have to fight for his sisters and family, but if he is a friend, Max will also try to deceive Eric until the time comes that he will betray Eric and get rid of him. Anyway, unfortunately people are sensitive to NTR, even if it's part of the dramaturgy.

The biggest problem with Eric, wasn't that he was fucking Anne and trying to do the same with the others too, it's that he (the plot elements surrounding him and the game-mechanics relating to his presence when visiting) was so ham-fisted in their implementation that even patrons wanted him gone.

He abandoned the game but I don't remember the citation of cameras. As a matter of fact, yes, there was. But he just tells Kira about his plan to make money from the hidden cameras, but I don't think that would lead anywhere or have any splendid content.

IIRC Kira took it as a bad joke on Max's part.
Not even she would have done anything like that, and she wanted the whole family involved with each other. Sexually, and professionally through her porn business.

Kira should be an important character in the narrative or maybe have a better script. Of course she has the role of taking care of Max, but she also has her perversive spirit. She's not a cheap bitch, she just likes having sex (nymphomaniac). But really in the old BB it had a little bad development, to say she was dumb, I don't know.

It wasn't just her though. It was everyone else in the house who wasn't Max.
When Max catches Eric peeping on Alice, Anne absolutely refuses to believe him, despite having not known Eric for anywhere believably long enough, especially when presented with a picture of Eric doing it.

Eric and Anne giving Lisa sex-ed, and Lisa sees nothing wrong at all with a relative stranger being involved in explaining sexual education to her.

Alice is clearly aware of Eric trying to get into her pants, but never says anything.

Lastly, Kira, the smartest and most cunning/devious of all of them, who had to prompt and direct Max in how to go about things, didn't even have the common sense to ask how Eric could've had a recording of her taking Max's virginity in Anne's bed, and was apparently such a sex addict that she never repeated things with Max that wasn't Lisa's training, instead she's also falling under Eric's "spell", because sex...

Again, the characters became wholly inconsistent and illogical whenever Eric was involved, because DS barely had a plan for how to implement Eric, beyond "Eric want fuck family, take house, send Max to Military School".

Turns out Eric would have to be the valve of the story, where in the course it becomes a tyrant. He behaves like a gentleman but he's a cad, so when he sees Kira, he'll try to fuck her, but how will he do it? simple, false accusation.

Except it wasn't false.
He had the video footage of her and Max having sex in Anne's bed, because Max was a dumbass who linked the one camera that was already there, into his scummy money-making scheme, which provided Eric with the means to find the site, and get the video.

True, I fully agree. Ever since what happened in BB, it seems like he's been traumatized by making his own choices. But it wasn't just the "NTR" that the whiners were complaining about, it was Eric's poor development in the game that was to blame.
I bet some have tried to sabotage Kate's story by not liking to play with FMC.

Not traumatised, too lazy.
Glamour (before BB remake) was going with the same premise (as a remake) as the game he abandoned before BB - Glamour.
Which had ridiculously little content in the same time span it took for the earliest versions of BB to be released, until the last one released. Kate hadn't even begun to have sex in that amount of time.

There were certainly plenty who didn't want to play as a FMC, but more were turned away from the pretty invasive nature of playing Glamour - Online only, with a Patreon account to download updates and saves stored on DS's server. That's EA levels of bull-shittery, and for a porn game of all things.

Femdom content. There are women who like to be dominated, like to be spanked, like to be tied up and fucked with sex games. There are others who are the opposite, who like to make men submit to them, as is the case with Alice. But, Alice in the old BB seemed to be bipolar, she liked to boss, but at the same time likes to obey. But at the beginning of BB she didn't seem to be a lesbian, just an annoying big sister, DS made her a lesbian because her fans clamored for him to remove Eric from the game. I think that way and really if you look maybe you'll notice that too.

Alice wasn't a lesbian in BB. She was bisexual before removing Eric was even hinted at, and literally nothing to do with femdom.
Her girlfriend Kate, was the lesbian... Who magically wasn't a lesbian any more, after seeing "Max and the Magic Dick", and was one of the paths for getting rid of Eric, via her mother.

You forgot that a lot of games out there are adding "shemale" content. But you're right, but I wouldn't be surprised if the DS does either.

No, a lot of games are not "adding" futa/trans. There's a lot that were designed around having them, just like all those games that focus around sissification of the Player Character - because there's a market for them.
Outside of the weirdo virtue-signal twits, there's not a huge demand for "shemale" porn. It's still pretty niche by comparison to most other genres.
Suddenly adding that kind of thing would be all the nails in DS's patreon coffin. A sure-fire way to end practically all support for him.
I don't doubt there are some who play this game that also play trans/futa related games/stories, but they're not the majority of fans/patrons/players.