Others Abandoned Glamour [v0.57] [Dark Silver]

[Valheru2022]

I don't understand the "kate fans".

I mean, the game's been going well away from Kate being the main character for quite a while now, and there would be no reason for DS to go back to "that", since most people have no interest in female protags unless they're just like Kate, cumdumpsters that gets fucked by anything alive with a cock.

Condering DS' previous game and writing/story, expecting a "good" story, is probably more on you than on him. He "makes" sluts that gets used/corrupted, not good deep stories. The only deep things in his games, are the cumdumpster's holes.

Sorry seems to me you have lack off fantasy. Almost everything now is the same. But if you are into that it's okay, you just want to know already what is the next stap that will follow then keep on playing. Still great renders (from time to time).
It's just to predictable to me. If you get off on this, then get off. No problem to me.

 

[Nerra]

And here's me hoping for some Kate in the Kate update...

With Max now at the college, even if it's supposed to be a Kate update, it will in reality be a Max update.

 

[firevoodoo]

because DS is lazy and greedy moron

I have my grievances with DS (sandbox, ridiculous storylines (whole fem protag side in particular), Max's stupid red t-shirt, Lisa's overhaul to the point of unrecognition etc. etc. etc.)

To the point I almost stopped caring of this game (It still has some great art so I check this thread and /image folder of new releases but that's about it).

Blaming him for not working hard (which is recurring theme here) is simply unfair.

Guy does monthly releases no matter what. He does work hard and that's a fact. Just show me another dev who works on the scale and quality level DS does. You can't.

He might be greedy (I have no idea how would we learn that even in theory), he might be a moron (same thing.)

But if it's true, he is one hard-working greedy moron.

Peace, everybody (I could use some in UA).

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

I have my grievances with DS (sandbox, ridiculous storylines (whole fem protag side in particular), Max's stupid red t-shirt, Lisa's overhaul to the point of unrecognition etc. etc. etc.)

To the point I almost stopped caring of this game (It still has some great art so I check this thread and /image folder of new releases but that's about it).

Blaming him for not working hard (which is recurring theme here) is simply unfair.

Guy does monthly releases no matter what. He does work hard and that's a fact. Just show me another dev who works on the scale and quality level DS does. You can't.

He might be greedy (I have no idea how would we learn that even in theory), he might be a moron (same thing.)

But if it's true, he is one hard-working greedy moron.

Peace, everybody (I could use some in UA).

Hard working is debatable. Some of the updates feel like they were thrown together in a two-week panic period.
Once he ran out of BB content to rehash, you can see the difference - it looks as though he was just throwing enough stuff at the wall to see if any of it sticks.
This I ascribe to the bugs that more often than not get fixed by fans faster than the developer.
Hurried content with no test saves to try it on leads to bugs.

He may or may not be greedy but he does know what sells to the larger part of the fanbase. A sound business practise but it does mean that he's not making as much as he could be.

He's not a moron, either imo. Just running low on content ideas. He still gets ideas now and then but has his paying fans make the decision for him. Once he started down that road I started having the feeling that it's going to get cancelled before completion.

Fans wanted a male protag. We could have had a simple genderflip character with Alex (the original male MC) but instead we get a moronic gimp who's basically a penis-brained walking penis. Why in the unholy fuckery did we get Cax instead?

 

[su wei]

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Suddenly, things have become like this. The way to view the story, plot, characters and even the dev. When an update comes out for Kate's story, there's Max, when there's not, there's Max. Some like the characters and others not so much, as happens with Kate too. I've seen people complaining about Lucas calling him Max 2.0, as if men aren't only interested in sex for women. If you man walk by on the street and see that girl in leggings and she has a big ass, you will look and admire. As with a boy who sees a woman with big breasts, he won't take his eye out, just as a woman sees a guy with a big dick, she won't take his eye out. This is called sexual appetite, something I saw in the first teasers of this new update. We still don't know what Lucas' attitude will be, a freeloader or just a maniac, as he appears fucking Helen. During this point, I have no idea what will happen.
But what differs from this image is that one side wants to see a little more "romance" in Kate's story and the other side wants to see more of "slutty". I don't know what hydroponic shit DS and his crew are smoking, but he's a guy who can't write a script and is letting his public decide for him, fact.

I don't understand why you guys hate Max (Max's path), is a simple character, which just needs a decent writer to make it better. Big Brother's history is rich, however, DS was wrong with its crossover, because it was shit.
I'm about to write a romance between Kate and Alice (Kate path), and I don't know if it will work. The last time I wrote it (Part VII), it sucked because it lacked renders and in Kate's story there are much less renders/scenes, but there are more with the two together however Max is in the middle. But I wanted to show that the crossover could work, I believed that DS would surprise me.

Really, if DS stops and drops your project it will be hard to find someone who renders as well as he does, I believe there must be some renders that can make their renders equal or better than his, but I bet that render must be hidden somewhere.



I think new Lisa's hair is better, I think her old hair made her look younger, now she looks like she is 17-18 years old.
I would change Alice's hair and try to let it loose, as well as change Lisa's hair and make it longer.

Big Brothers is one of the most fan-created porn games. This already shows that DS is quite successful at making up stories.

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

Big Brothers is one of the most fan-created porn games. This already shows that DS is quite successful at making up stories.

However, he has yet to actually finish any stories he's actually written.

 

[Snugglepuff]

Big Brothers is one of the most fan-created porn games.

Copied...
Each one, a pale imitation made in the hope of creating the same buzz that BB had for its time. None did.

This already shows that DS is quite successful at making up stories.

Except he's not.
BB had the potential for an interesting story, but progressing it stopped as soon as Eric was able to be gotten rid of. Instead, we got Max's further adventures in porn - Kira using the family for her own porn business, after Max has already been doing the same with Alice.
I'll bet you don't even know which part of the game's plot I'm referring to when I mentioned that it got dropped. It's to do with the first camera in the house... Not even DS himself picked up that again, which considering how it had been pretty crucial to the plot, says more about his story writing capability, than anything else.

As much as these are clearly porn games, they're ones with actual story and character development. At least, they were.
The same thing that happened with BB, has happened again with Glamour - DS playing the patrons by letting them think they're getting to choose what happens next. It happened around the same point, when DS started to run out of steam with any story, he plays the patrons so that they'll be responsible for the directionless padding that goes on.

 

[Lisandr666]

I don't understand why you guys hate Max (Max's path), is a simple character, which just needs a decent writer to make it better. Big Brother's history is rich, however, DS was wrong with its crossover, because it was shit.

Hate is too strong a word. The vector of application of our antipathies is not in Max himself, but in the fact that the DS shoves him into places where you can perfectly do without him.
And yes, you are right. Rewriting the backstory for Max, making him not a walking dick, but someone like Jiraiya would be at least unusual. And it would be nice to fit into the theme of the college investigation.
Tie to change Max's character:
Max jerks off while peeping in the bathroom. He slips and hits his head, he is in the hospital for a week (day, month, year). While in a coma, Jiraiya appears to him and tells him that he is a disgrace and averse to his path as a Super Pervert, and that at the moment he is just a walking dick with no brains. Max decides to follow in Jiraiya's footsteps and become a real Super Pervert. And wakes up.
P.S. For those who don't know who Jiraiya is

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[Lisandr666]

Guy does monthly releases no matter what. He does work hard and that's a fact. Just show me another dev who works on the scale and quality level DS does. You can't.

Offhand immediately comes Lucky Mark and Amnesia by Super Alex.
https://f95zone.to/threads/lucky-mark-v18-0-super-alex.5483/
P.S. And the guy does it alone.

 

[Hacke74]

Big Brothers is one of the most fan-created porn games. This already shows that DS is quite successful at making up stories.

Anyone can invent a story, even children can do it (unlimited imagination). But bringing this story to an end is a whole different story, so much for that. What DS is good at inventing are excuses and promises.

 

[Konstantin]

Anyone can invent a story, even children can do it (unlimited imagination). But bringing this story to an end is a whole different story, so much for that. What DS is good at inventing are excuses and promises.

Absolutely right. He uses EVERY opportunity to justify himself. I have already said that his difficulties arising in connection with the events in Ukraine are a complete lie. Now another lie

 

[Hacke74]

Absolutely right. He uses EVERY opportunity to justify himself. I have already said that his difficulties arising in connection with the events in Ukraine are a complete lie. Now another lie

And he will keep doing it. Now that I've finished my vacation I've found that DS has lost about 2 hundred supporters again, so I'm more and more of the opinion that Glamor as a game will not experience 2023.

 

[Konstantin]

I'm more and more of the opinion that Glamor as a game will not experience 2023.

Yes, most likely it will be. Although it is possible that only Kate's story will die and glamour will finally turn into BB
I've been suggesting enthusiasts to start doing a fan-made reworking of Kate's story for a long time. I do it a little myself, but it's very difficult for me alone

 

[Hacke74]

Yes, most likely it will be. Although it is possible that only Kate's story will die and glamour will finally turn into BB
I've been suggesting enthusiasts to start doing a fan-made reworking of Kate's story for a long time. I do it a little myself, but it's very difficult for me alone

He didn't finish BB. If he had it, glamor wouldn't exist, and even with glamor he couldn't get any further without BB. His biggest mistake was that he let the supporters decide how the story should continue, he himself is responsible for the downfall.

 

[Hacke74]

I haven't been on F95Zone for the past 14 days due to vacation. I've read through the entries of the last 14 days and I'm not surprised that the entries weren't more positive, but in some statements more negative than before. Especially regarding the ANNOUNCED UPDATE "what a predicted disappointment". He has the nerve to throw a bone at the fans (SCREENSHOTS). And then to claim it was a three course meal. The usual excuses. Probably always prepared, cut, copy, paste.

 

[Konstantin]

biggest mistake was that he let the supporters decide how the story should continue

Just before that, DS had delayed the development of the plot too much, which also caused discontent... And following the lead of high-level patrons, DS too quickly began to develop the storylines that they wanted. And the logic of the game fell apart

In my opinion, the plot should have developed gradually. First, an increasingly explicit form of college, then a ban on wearing underwear. After anatomy lessons and sex education. And also the search for an approach to each of the teachers. Veronica to beat in poker, Karen to obey, for Maya and Lucas it was also possible to come up with something
Plus, add the ability to have romantic relationships with classmates. One of the girls could be a lesbian or bi, someone could be a sadist and be a submissive slave for him, and for someone, on the contrary, be a domina

 

[Hacke74]

The pictures for the upcoming UPDATE 0.50 say it all, I can already imagine the story without the complete UPDATE 0.50, it is in no way related to the previous story and DS doesn't even bother to sell it to us as wine although it is vinegar is. Why did Kate allow herself to be bullied to be the first cheerleader when she is only in the back row??????????????? I am most amused by newcomers who come up with problems that haven't been solved to this day, I would advise them not to continue playing the game to avoid any frustration, but it's more fun to see when they come up with it themselves and then talk about it complain, unfortunately I have to admit that I'm a little selfish/sarcastic in this respect.

 

[Hacke74]

Just before that, DS had delayed the development of the plot too much, which also caused discontent... And following the lead of high-level patrons, DS too quickly began to develop the storylines that they wanted. And the logic of the game fell apart

In my opinion, the plot should have developed gradually. First, an increasingly explicit form of college, then a ban on wearing underwear. After anatomy lessons and sex education. And also the search for an approach to each of the teachers. Veronica to beat in poker, Karen to obey, for Maya and Lucas it was also possible to come up with something
Plus, add the ability to have romantic relationships with classmates. One of the girls could be a lesbian or bi, someone could be a sadist and be a submissive slave for him, and for someone, on the contrary, be a domina

True, but what you are describing here is exactly what DS announced when or before it released Glamour. Unfortunately, none of this will happen or be implemented. My opinion is that a story, no matter how absurd it is, should have a beginning, a middle and an end, everything should build on each other and be logically understandable.

 

[firevoodoo]

Offhand immediately comes Lucky Mark and Amnesia by Super Alex.
https://f95zone.to/threads/lucky-mark-v18-0-super-alex.5483/
P.S. And the guy does it alone.

I assume you mean the 2nd one, since the 1st one is long finished.

"Amnesia' - from the horse's mouth: 'Thread Updated: 2022-02-11'

My understanding is that last release was half a year ago.

Notice, I do not blame him for not working hard. I don't know, maybe he does. But if you consider it working hard, then DS works harder by the factor of 6.

You say the other dev works alone (which implies DS does not). Okay, then it defeats the argument DS is 'greedy' since he hired some help to be more productive.

Once again: I do not defend DS, in fact I'm angry with him. Surely I'm not a donor. In fact, not even a leecher since the next release is Kate's.

I'm just pointing out the obvious: you criticize him for the wrong reasons.

 

[Lisandr666]

Big Brothers is one of the most fan-created porn games. This already shows that DS is quite successful at making up stories.

More than half of the success was in quality graphics, good character concepts, a little plot and Eric. Yes, Eric. He pissed me off like many others. But he gave the edge, a sense of competition and the possibility of a game over.