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So after reading DS' post on Patreon it seems this project is doomed to join Big Brother in the abandoned file. He's lost too many subs and the money is not rolling in anymore.
To keep this in our minds, if DS ever make a 'new' BB etc.
We know we don't have to invest in DS. And don't have any hopes on he's 'new' project. Cuz he will abandon it.
- Aug 15, 2018
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There is a lot of talking about this situation, possible abandonment while he still has 900 hostages... oops sorry... subscribers. Usually it means average cca 10$ per subscriber. 9000$ brutto. At least 5000$ net after taxes. But he said: "it is not good enough! And then we heard why. He has his lazy deadbeat entourage of 5 openly telling they enjoyed being pampered by subscribers so they don't want to have normal rl job. Their expenses has risen, they have to rent appartment since they escaped from war... shortly, our easygoing lifestyle is now too expensive for income they are receiving. solution? cut your team (for example ditch social media and communication guy)? improve game to attract new subscribers? try to get back subscribers you lost?... no! solution is ask subscribers for more money or you'll abandon the game. but what after? since you don't want to work your solution is: you'll launch a new game. 
Man, one of reasons you are in this shit is abandoning projects and cheating subscribers. first you betrayed bb fans by abandoning their game, then you betrayed kate fans by minorizing her updates, then you disappointed your hardcore bb fan turning bb segment of glamour into house of max, then you infected kate game with max and lost all remaining kate supporters. just because in one moment it seems to you that max fans will be enough to cover loss of old subscribers and bring extra profit. each of your polls showed you that max has majority, but they also showed that you have 30-40% unhappy people paying money. you ignored that second part and it worked for short period. while your original subscribers were leaving, max fans were there. but core-base fans of max are teen fapers, wannabe max in rl. they basically have no steady income (mainly playing free and being very loud) and your game being grindy and repeatable couldn't keep their attention for a long (and there are whole bunch of fast, non-grind renpy games with max look-alike charachter dominating family and all girls around). depending just on pocket money income subscribers, alienating all other, your game with worse scripting from update to update your "world of max" (formerlly known as glamour) sailed into night toward ice berg. nobody can save you anymore, since nobody trust you anymore.
and all of that was avoidable if you and your lazy social media expert actually read what people were writing. all of them, not just praises.
btw, some fans here are so praising renders as reason why your game should be supported. they are very good, but not revolutionary good or good enough to keep financing this pack of lies and cheats
Man, one of reasons you are in this shit is abandoning projects and cheating subscribers. first you betrayed bb fans by abandoning their game, then you betrayed kate fans by minorizing her updates, then you disappointed your hardcore bb fan turning bb segment of glamour into house of max, then you infected kate game with max and lost all remaining kate supporters. just because in one moment it seems to you that max fans will be enough to cover loss of old subscribers and bring extra profit. each of your polls showed you that max has majority, but they also showed that you have 30-40% unhappy people paying money. you ignored that second part and it worked for short period. while your original subscribers were leaving, max fans were there. but core-base fans of max are teen fapers, wannabe max in rl. they basically have no steady income (mainly playing free and being very loud) and your game being grindy and repeatable couldn't keep their attention for a long (and there are whole bunch of fast, non-grind renpy games with max look-alike charachter dominating family and all girls around). depending just on pocket money income subscribers, alienating all other, your game with worse scripting from update to update your "world of max" (formerlly known as glamour) sailed into night toward ice berg. nobody can save you anymore, since nobody trust you anymore.
and all of that was avoidable if you and your lazy social media expert actually read what people were writing. all of them, not just praises.
btw, some fans here are so praising renders as reason why your game should be supported. they are very good, but not revolutionary good or good enough to keep financing this pack of lies and cheats
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It is a shame it is a good concept and would have had potential. I think Glamor should have been 3 different games a the further adventures of max, further adventures of lisa and the kate story line. The updates were too small and not frequent enough. With the manpower the developers had and the money from their patrons it could and should have been better.
Was Kate or Max story, not both at the same time. Kate is probably not interesting enough guys ready to pay for a fully dedicated team. Max story has a better potential (more Patreons) but not the kind of dudes enjoying a slooooooooooow story, with not enough sex scenes.
DS failed his/her business plan. Kate's story was good only for a small team.
DS failed his/her business plan. Kate's story was good only for a small team.
On the issue of BB and its cancellation at the time, Patreon's policies were blamed (Incest)
Darksilver had a ban of weeks until he removed the content and he did (Roles landlord, tenant) but he still decided to abandon it because he was not going to risk the enormous income he had thinking that everyone would follow him to Glamor
Making donors or patreons pay again for the game on Steam is the meanest thing I've ever read.
Darksilver had a ban of weeks until he removed the content and he did (Roles landlord, tenant) but he still decided to abandon it because he was not going to risk the enormous income he had thinking that everyone would follow him to Glamor
Making donors or patreons pay again for the game on Steam is the meanest thing I've ever read.
- Dec 15, 2019
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The game was wrong from the start of the project, and the authors don't seem to understand what makes BB successful.
Male protagonists, beautiful women, competitors in the process, game mechanics that can fail, probability-based dialogue systems. These are the foundations for extending the life of the game and are now key to the success of many BB fan productions.
But dropping those things in Glamour makes the story linear, with no surprises and no incentive to play once a month. After a few years of updating, the old story has become very familiar, no changes, no surprises.
Male protagonists, beautiful women, competitors in the process, game mechanics that can fail, probability-based dialogue systems. These are the foundations for extending the life of the game and are now key to the success of many BB fan productions.
But dropping those things in Glamour makes the story linear, with no surprises and no incentive to play once a month. After a few years of updating, the old story has become very familiar, no changes, no surprises.
incest patch doesn't seem to work, anyone have a fix? just replaced the app file in game folder...
- Oct 31, 2021
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Been a while since I last played this, but as far as I remember there's no need for a patch. There's an option in the menu where you can change the character mapping to whatever you want. You just go there and type in the relationships that you want the characters to have.
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yeah, and how blantly he said: i have team of five, rent and costs became more expensive but we don't want to move our asses and find real jobs. we like this way: many subscribers billed every month but no commitment to deliver any content. so pay us more or we'll shut down glamour. but since we don't want rl jobs, we'll start a new game. so chip in again.
I sincerely hope that when DS will come back with a new project, people will remember all of this and won't subscribe.
(they still will and he's probably smart enough to get a new name/patreon so he starts fresh)
(they still will and he's probably smart enough to get a new name/patreon so he starts fresh)