Others Abandoned Glamour [v0.57] [Dark Silver]

[michel.gellar7]

Is there any update for the Mac version ?

 

[Lisandr666]

It's always hard to tell why a developper is losing support.

Well, with regards to DS there are many reasons. Of the main ones - one thing is promised, in fact quite another. Plus, you need to look at what the mass player wants at the moment. Plus modern graphics and animations.
And modern players need something more than "golden dick" and variations of pictures. The plot, something unusual, humor, animation, modern renderings.

 

[zibioczko]

BIGGEST ABANDONMENT EVER!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Alen Mak]

another project gone and start a new WTF ....

 

[BigBrotherrrr]

The plot, something unusual, humor, animation, modern renderings.

But Glamour has all that except for animations, doesn't it? And the updates were released every 1 or 2 months. Sure it has a lot of drawbacks but it's still a thousand times better than 99.9% of the other games here. I don't understand why he lost support.

 

[Cainhurst]

But Glamour has all that except for animations, doesn't it? And the updates were released every 1 or 2 months. Sure it has a lot of drawbacks but it's still a thousand times better than 99.9% of the other games here. I don't understand why he lost support.

A lack of forward momentum in the story was my reason for dropping support. The game was actually pretty good till 0.39-0.40 but after those updates the story just stalled for Kate and even regressed with the Max route. The overall plot for Kate and the college disappeared and Max took over even her route.
With Max the Ann scenes came quickly which was good but removing it for some nonsense reasoning was irritating and then focusing on events that took ages to progress (Karen has to tutor you like a dozen times to complete a questline and she comes every three days so you just keep hitting the skip button).

There are a lot of reasons to be upset. An update every two months is good but a lack of momentum with each update is not. People are willing to support long dev cycles (Being A Dik) if the updates are substantial content which moves the plot forward.

 

[chriskris]

Sure it has a lot of drawbacks but it's still a thousand times better than 99.9% of the other games here. I don't understand why he lost support.

Everyone have different taste, but i'm pretty sure this VN isn't better then what you claimed 99,9% I mean. I've downloaded all the Key VN's (on this website) and storywise it's very good! i'm 100% sure Glamour can't beat it. Even when this story would have been finished.

I'm also following MANILA SHAW, and I think that story is more interesting then Glamour.
Same with Naughty Lyanna, Cursed Armor En etc. (I could name more.. But I don't want to.)

Also, Words Worth is better then Glamour.
Venus Blood Franchise also has some good stories.
So..... let me be clear. everyone have diff taste. But i'm 100% sure Glamour isn't 99,9% better then the other games what you have claimed.

 

[leg28]

Progress report

This post has been a long time coming. It's probably one of, if not the most important post in the history of this project.
Our team has five people:
I write the game's story, dialogues and events, model scenes, render them, and combine it all into working events.
Another person translates these posts and all text in the game.
Our designer edits the images and turns them into what you see in the game.
Our programmer works on the engine, keeps the server going, builds working versions of the updates, and provides technical support by fixing the bugs as they crop up.
We also have one more person who tests new builds, finds bugs in the old versions, and talks to the players in social media and reddit.

As you might have noticed, the number of our supporters on patreon has been going down in the last months and at this point it has reached a critical level. The money have dried down to the point where not only we earn less than we could if we worked in our respective fields, at this point we can barely pay our rent. And thanks to the war, some of us had to migrate to other countries, which increased our expenses, further exacerbating the problem.
So the question is what do we do now? We all have the bills to pay, we need an income. No one wants to abandon the project, especially after all the effort we've put in it.
The last couple of months we've been working on releasing the game on steam. We're pretty close and if the things go well we should release Glamour in steam this month. Once the game is bought, the future updates of the steam version will be free. That being said, the updates in the steam version will be behind the patreon version.
We don't want to leave patreon and this step is something we have to do to keep the game afloat. If the steam release is successful, we can worry about balancing both platforms in the future.
If the financial situation doesn't improve, we will have no choice but to seek other employments to stay alive.

We're still working on 0.58, but the progress is understandably slower than usual. Most of the images are already rendered, and we're planning to release it before the end of the month.
If the steam release is successful, then we'll be able to keep working on the game and maybe even increase our productivity. If not, the project will have to be frozen.

P.S.: Personally, now that I got to work on my passion project, I would rather not go back to an office job. That being said, I can't keep working on Glamour all by myself, it's far too much work. The project has been designed around a team from the ground up, it's not something that can be done by one person.

So, plan B. If Glamour stops being profitable enough to support our team, I'll work solo on something new. I have some ideas and might show it to you if Glamour meets its untimely demise. The graphical style, setting, gameplay, and many other aspects of the new project will be drastically different from Glamour.

This is most shameful thing I ever read here. What he said is simple extortion.
"If you don't give me more money I'll abandon this game (in fact two games). F*ck you stupid morons that stuffed my pockets for years. But, hey there is a good news: If I abandon Glamour, (being selfish, lazy prick as I am), I don't want to go back to RL work like everyone else, so I'll start another completely different project. So open your vallets and fund me again."
C'mmon, this means he f*cked BB fans for 2nd time and managed to f*cked Kate fans twice. And new game will be completely different than previous game - Glamour. Although i can't understand different from which version of Glamour? Original FMC, original MMC, BB revival, FMC infested by Max?

He admits decline of supporters (currently cca 900 on Patreon only x 10$ average) but whole post sounds like blaming supporters for that. Not a word about his failures in storytelling and combining stories into Frankenstein monster that displeased both sides. His policy of alienating Kate supporters by prefering Max storyline was 1st blow to supporters. But this 1st impact was saved by revamped BB supporters. Kate supporters were constantly declining but Max supporters managed to keep it going. After Max infested Kate story too, it was pretty much sure that almost all original supporters were gone. But hardcore BB supporters had enough too and they started to leave, so here we are now here.

Now back to extortion: "fund me and 4 more lazy deadbeats (including one for social media) so we can continue to live on your money (because we really don't like to work normal jobs like you), while we are promising you only more frustrations." Really? And if not? "I'll start new project on my own." Who will trust the guy who abandoned 2 projects. And if you cutting Glamour because lacking money, how the hell you can afford it? Then, why don't you finish Glamour first? Give your supporters closure. Totally irresponsible and without any integrity.

To whoever wants to keep funding him: Don't do it. Neither him or game, as it is now, worth it
To whoever wants to keep supporting him for new project, expecting he'll honor his committments this time and finish project I urge to remeber Einstein: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

 

[a1fox3]

At the time ds abandoned BB he had the most supporters he ever had and once he abandoned BB it drop to about half what he had.
When he was showing what he was making it was about 30k a month but now its only or less than 4k a month, it could be even less but without seeing it can't really tell.

Now I hope all his patreons will see what a scammer ds really is.

 

[Lisandr666]

But Glamour has all that except for animations, doesn't it? And the updates were released every 1 or 2 months. Sure it has a lot of drawbacks but it's still a thousand times better than 99.9% of the other games here. I don't understand why he lost support.

Yes, it has (except for animations). Relatively until around the release of the update with Neil. Then the plot as such disappeared. The quality of the dialogues and the script dropped to the level of a schoolboy preoccupied with sex.
I have already spoken about this, I will say it again. IMHO: DS had a scriptwriter to write the plot and dialogues, who then disappeared (quarreled with DS or something else). Because if (as DS claims) he himself writes the script for the game, then I can’t understand such a drawdown in quality.
About other games. I won't give a complete list, but here are 2 I've played lately:
https://f95zone.to/threads/eternum-v0-6-2-public-caribdis.93340/ Eternum, the further you go, the more it turns out that everything is not simple. That's all i can say without giving spoilers.
https://f95zone.to/threads/realm-invader-ep-1-invader-gary.120317/ Realm Invader. I just laughed to tears, the author is just a genius.
And I'm sincerely sorry that I can't support the authors now.

 

[Ottoeight]

At the time ds abandoned BB he had the most supporters he ever had and once he abandoned BB it drop to about half what he had.
When he was showing what he was making it was about 30k a month but now its only or less than 4k a month, it could be even less but without seeing it can't really tell.

Now I hope all his patreons will see what a scammer ds really is.

BB was F95's most popular game by far when he dropped it. He had more patrons than Summertime Saga when it happened.

Still wondering why he did it: Patreon's change of policy is a lame excuse - Dating my Daughter wasn't abandoned, so why did the dude abandon Big Brother? wasn't he able to rename characters and call them landlady and roommates?

 

[Zane11]

At the time ds abandoned BB he had the most supporters he ever had and once he abandoned BB it drop to about half what he had.
When he was showing what he was making it was about 30k a month but now its only or less than 4k a month, it could be even less but without seeing it can't really tell.

Now I hope all his patreons will see what a scammer ds really is.

It's honestly been a long time and I've forgotten. What was the reason he gave for abandoning BB back then..?

EDIT: I think I remember now, something to do with Patreon and incest right? But tons of incest games are still on Patreon. At most they just go the roommate/landlady route and simply add an incest patch off Patreon to switch back the names. Was that not possible for BB?

 

[a1fox3]

It's honestly been a long time and I've forgotten. What was the reason he gave for abandoning BB back then..?

EDIT: I think I remember now, something to do with Patreon and incest right? But tons of incest games are still on Patreon. At most they just go the roommate/landlady route and simply add an incest patch off Patreon to switch back the names. Was that not possible for BB?

Really have no idea why other than "incest" being the reason, but like you said a patch could have taken care of it.

 

[chriskris]

He admits decline of supporters (currently cca 900 on Patreon only x 10$ average) but whole post sounds like blaming supporters for that. Not a word about his failures in storytelling and combining stories into Frankenstein monster that displeased both sides.....

Now back to extortion: "fund me and 4 more lazy deadbeats (including one for social media) so we can continue to live on your money (because we really don't like to work normal jobs like you), while we are promising you only more frustrations." Really? And if not? "I'll start new project on my own." Who will trust the guy who abandoned 2 projects. And if you cutting Glamour because lacking money, how the hell you can afford it? Then, why don't you finish Glamour first? Give your supporters closure. Totally irresponsible and without any integrity.

To whoever wants to keep funding him: Don't do it. Neither him or game, as it is now, worth it
To whoever wants to keep supporting him for new project, expecting he'll honor his committments this time and finish project I urge to remeber Einstein: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I will say, for those who's gonna support him. when he's creating a new game.
I will keep it simple, "You are

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and it could be more then this!"

 

[karagan91]

It's honestly been a long time and I've forgotten. What was the reason he gave for abandoning BB back then..?

EDIT: I think I remember now, something to do with Patreon and incest right? But tons of incest games are still on Patreon. At most they just go the roommate/landlady route and simply add an incest patch off Patreon to switch back the names. Was that not possible for BB?

Mainly because it was moddable/mod friendly. Some of the mods actually added more values to the game, and required even, because how grind-y the game was. And they thought that should have not happened, because (maybe) it would disrupt the story, etc. So for that reason they rebooted the game with the new shittier engine and shittier story, and practically non-moddable. And hope the project will be more successful (somehow).

 

[Ottoeight]

Mainly because it was moddable/mod friendly. Some of the mods actually added more values to the game, and required even, because how grind-y the game was. And they thought that should have not happened, because (maybe) it would disrupt the story, etc. So for that reason they rebooted the game with the new shittier engine and shittier story, and practically non-moddable. And hope the project will be more successful (somehow).

They did reboot a fuckin' nothing. Glamour wasn't supposed to host a BB reboot half-game: it started with a different male protagonist.

 

[Daveiy]

to be fair if he would publish the Game on Steam and make the future Updates for free or with a Season Pass i would be totally fine with it and would buy it. i mean he have to make Money after all.

 

[Maverick369]

I lost my saved game files. Is there a way to get save from someone and how to put them in.

 

[Antoninus]

But Glamour has all that except for animations, doesn't it? And the updates were released every 1 or 2 months. Sure it has a lot of drawbacks but it's still a thousand times better than 99.9% of the other games here. I don't understand why he lost support.

As a creator, you have to give your customers what they want: something TO FAP.
If they is nothing new to fap on, they leave. Simple.
Also the game is more and more boring with each update. Like if the game isn't moving forward anymore.

 

[BigBrotherrrr]

As a creator, you have to give your customers what they want: something TO FAP.
If they is nothing new to fap on, they leave. Simple.
Also the game is more and more boring with each update. Like if the game isn't moving forward anymore.

I see a lot of people disagree with me. Apparently, you play some other games and don't see what I see in this game. Which is renders. This game has some of the best renders and models out there. Most of the other games are unplayable (unfappable) for me for that reason, they pale in comparison. So, as boring as it is, it's one of the very few games worth playing for me. Although, lately the renders became worse - he doesn't care much about posing - but still.