VN Ren'Py Abandoned Glimpses of the Past [v0.4.0] [MrStarRaccoon]

[Godeaterprince]

Really interesting.... Like it so far... Can't wait for future update....

 

[SrRK]

Pretty good story so far, pretty good game overall: desperately needs two things:

1) A proofreader.
2) An NTR tag.

Outside of this, the developer clearly put a lot of effort into this. It's by no means perfect, but you can tell the developer is passionate about it and that's a plus. For me, the NTR that does happen at the end (and serves as sort of a cliffhanger for some reason) is tolerable because, well... it's not like we're dating the girl or anything: but the game definitely spends about half the episode presenting her as a romance option/letting you flirt with her.

If you can get past this, the immense need for a proofreader, and you enjoy a lighthearted story/family drama type novel that is rather linear, you will like this. This is not a porn game so far, however: it's more just a visual novel for now (but this will obviously change with future updates). I also personally found the girl who people are calling a "granny" to be kind of cute despite the obvious issue with younger DAZ models.

Edit: I didn't notice the "heated debate" prior to writing my comment, so let me add something.

While technically speaking, what happens at the end of the episode isn't NTR because Monica isn't your girlfriend, lover, or anything similar... it should be obvious to many why people (myself included -- even though it didn't bother me personally) view it as, at the very least, bordering on NTR: for half of the episode, Monica is developed as a potential romantic partner... at least in the context of a porn game. The developer clearly wanted to portray a dynamic between the two, and "get the sparks flying," so to speak.

We (the MC) flirt with her, she flirts with us... she invites you to a party or something, kisses your cheek, you get her number, and then part ways. The very next scene is your (the MC's) father blowing a load on her face.

While I don't care about it personally -- I'm not sure why anyone is shocked that those who despise NTR do care. Whether you decide to add a tag or not is entirely your choice as the developer... but if it we're me, I'd add it as a courtesy to those who will avoid this game for that reason, and that reason alone. At the end of the day, it's just going to piss people off if you don't.

Relax guys there is no NTR. I don’t want to spoil the next episode, so you can just believe me

Even if there was... you're clearly a talented person and the game is good so far; make what you want to make and don't let others influence the direction of your game. BUT... as I stated above... a certain little disclaimer might save you a rather substantial headache.

 

[ptahn]

I'm just saying this to help the developer out. I have not played the game nor do I intend to given the comments about the game. While the scene discussed may technically not be NTR, it would appear that it will make this game unappealing to a lot of potential players including me. That is perfectly fine not every game is written for me. If the developer is making this game to generate some income, he has lost at least half of his potential patrons with just one scene. Look at Bang City. The developer has kept in a similar scene in his game and after 3 or 4 months and 3 updates after his initial release, he is generating less than $50/month in income. To show what is possible, WVM has been out for less than 2 months and generates about $2000/month. WVM has no NTR or at least if it does, it is avoidable. In that story a potential love interest has a boyfriend but the girl spends a lot of time talking about how they don't have sex. That developer is also new but he is smart about making his product marketable. So to MrStarRaccon I say, if it's not about the money, tell the story you want to tell. If is at least a little about the money, make a change. A lot of people will shoot down my post just like they did in the Bang City forum, but those same people have never financially supported that project. Poly Cafe had a similar issue and it took about 2 months for that game to die. I know I don't speak for every one, but I do speak as some one who supports some projects. If you really are trying to get 500 patrons, it will take a long time with that one scene in the story. Is it worth it?

 

[Ursus4321]

First I will say that I do not like the ntr. But I understand that a little competition for the women of the game makes it more interesting. A game in which all women open their legs for the MC without any challenge is boring. Condemning a game because a competitor appears seems excessive to me. Please, let the dev advance the game for a while and we will see if what is in the game is competition for girls or hard Ntr. Even then, the dev has the right to make the game he has in mind. All the changes you make forced by the pressure of many the only thing they do is ruin the games

 

[ptahn]

First I will say that I do not like the ntr. But I understand that a little competition for the women of the game makes it more interesting. A game in which all women open their legs for the MC without any challenge is boring. Condemning a game because a competitor appears seems excessive to me. Please, let the dev advance the game for a while and we will see if what is in the game is competition for girls or hard Ntr. Even then, the dev has the right to make the game he has in mind. All the changes you make forced by the pressure of many the only thing they do is ruin the games

Which is exactly what posters in Bang City and Poly Cafe said. The developer absolutely the right to make whatever game he or she wants. I am just saying a game that does not have the content mentioned appeals to a broader audience and thus generates more income. If money is not a concern the developer should ignore my comments, if money is a concern (and on his Patreon Page he says that his goal is to get 500 supporters) he will make less especially initially with the story the way it is. This game has been out what less than 24 hours and there are already people running from it. I'm just trying to help MrStarRacoon, can anyone honestly say that leaving the scene in will make the story more successful financially? If the scene is not necessary for the story and it does not seem to be (just based on comments, again I have not played the game because of the content); why would the developer not consider removing the it. I've done this before, if the developer removes the season or makes the scene optional (and by optional I mean it occurs for the NTR people and does not occur for the non-NTR people) I'll pledge a buck a month without even having played the game.

 

[lorddarkam]

the game is cool just tag it correctly please i got a nasty surprise, if i game was on further updates maybe i would react diferent but for now i have spent all the time the game has on this girl and then this ending HAHAHAHAHAHA i fell very bad now

 

[lorddarkam]

First I will say that I do not like the ntr. But I understand that a little competition for the women of the game makes it more interesting. A game in which all women open their legs for the MC without any challenge is boring. Condemning a game because a competitor appears seems excessive to me. Please, let the dev advance the game for a while and we will see if what is in the game is competition for girls or hard Ntr. Even then, the dev has the right to make the game he has in mind. All the changes you make forced by the pressure of many the only thing they do is ruin the games

I this was on another setup i would be here defending the dev and saying he could do whatever he want like i always do i don't like ntr but i almost got banned defending a dev here, but theres no NTR TAG and all the time was invested in this girl on this version of the game it give you a bad feeling, lets say if this girl was a girl from a next update and we just saw this scene i would feel nothing cuz the girl is not introducted yet, this for me was like if i had a girlfriend and then come home and found my young brother who i provide for fucking her in the ass damm im feling very bad i was so hyped with the game hahaha

 

[lorddarkam]

I'm just saying this to help the developer out. I have not played the game nor do I intend to given the comments about the game. While the scene discussed may technically not be NTR, it would appear that it will make this game unappealing to a lot of potential players including me. That is perfectly fine not every game is written for me. If the developer is making this game to generate some income, he has lost at least half of his potential patrons with just one scene. Look at Bang City. The developer has kept in a similar scene in his game and after 3 or 4 months and 3 updates after his initial release, he is generating less than $50/month in income. To show what is possible, WVM has been out for less than 2 months and generates about $2000/month. WVM has no NTR or at least if it does, it is avoidable. In that story a potential love interest has a boyfriend but the girl spends a lot of time talking about how they don't have sex. That developer is also new but he is smart about making his product marketable. So to MrStarRaccon I say, if it's not about the money, tell the story you want to tell. If is at least a little about the money, make a change. A lot of people will shoot down my post just like they did in the Bang City forum, but those same people have never financially supported that project. Poly Cafe had a similar issue and it took about 2 months for that game to die. I know I don't speak for every one, but I do speak as some one who supports some projects. If you really are trying to get 500 patrons, it will take a long time with that one scene in the story. Is it worth it?

truth be told the game looked one of the good ones until the last scene everything was VERY GOOD, i could avoided it but there was no NTR tag i just got trolled

 

[SpikeZg]

Oh snap, this is really good, nice new VN dev
audio, animation and visual presentation is awesome
blinking eyes are becoming a thing ha?

so MC is Keanu Reevs ha?
why didn't you just write his name like it is instead of some made up name?
later you wrote iPhone so i guess copyright is not a thing ha?

also, that girl/kid Catherine looks like an old lady traped in a body of a 15yo that should be fixed

english is bad, but at least i can understand what they are saying

Monica is beautiful , but the way she is dressed, looks like she is a hooker, and that last scene ruined me, why dev, why??????

 

[DA22]

First I will say that I do not like the ntr. But I understand that a little competition for the women of the game makes it more interesting. A game in which all women open their legs for the MC without any challenge is boring. Condemning a game because a competitor appears seems excessive to me. Please, let the dev advance the game for a while and we will see if what is in the game is competition for girls or hard Ntr. Even then, the dev has the right to make the game he has in mind. All the changes you make forced by the pressure of many the only thing they do is ruin the games

I will not comment on the NTR or not, since that is a taste discussion anyway. You either like that or not. The problem though is that these kinda scenes do chase a lot of people away, rightfully so if you wish to make a game not targeted at them.

Drama though you can add in many ways as you can add competition in many ways. You do not always have to start from a position where you just are allowed to talk with a girl, where the rest of the males are fucking her or worse and the competition consists of immoral douchebags at best (This is a NTR trope though and you find it in all those games). Competition also does not always have to be such though that you seriously doubt whether it would even be smart to date that girl. You can also have competition from reasonably normal and nice guys, that you would not mind going for drinks with.

I think someone mentioned Big City Pleasures. Personally I do not mind she banged her BF, what I did mind though is that she is in a relation with that guy knowing he is an asshole and basically is only with him for his money. Now I do not know about you, those are not the women I want to be with unless it is only for quick sex, not for a relationship. Just as I would strongly object if a GF would decide to fuck her boss for a promotion as I know most women I was in a relationship with would object if I did the same with a female boss.

Now I get that it may be the intention to bring out your white knight side and to make it more believable they will not easily get into your bed, but women with such values and/or bad taste you are better of not dating at all. So it defeats it's purpose for a big part of potential players. I also understand it is a way to show sex scenes early on while you want a slow burn with the main characters, but again that defeats its purpose if you turn of a big part of your targeted player base to those main characters.

I would say stop being so fucking lazy and if you want drama try to be a bit more creative, unless you want to make a NTR game of course. Those have their own rules.

 

[lorddarkam]

I will not comment on the NTR or not, since that is a taste discussion anyway. You either like that or not. The problem though is that these kinda scenes do chase a lot of people away, rightfully so if you wish to make a game not targeted at them.

Drama though you can add in many ways as you can add competition in many ways. You do not always have to start from a position where you just are allowed to talk with a girl, where the rest of the males are fucking her or worse and the competition consists of immoral douchebags at best (This is a NTR trope though and you find it in all those games). Competition also does not always have to be such though that you seriously doubt whether it would even be smart to date that girl. You can also have competition from reasonably normal and nice guys, that you would not mind going for drinks with.

I think someone mentioned Bang City. Personally I do not mind she banged her BF, what I did mind though is that she is in a relation with that guy knowing he is an asshole and basically is only with him for his money. Now I do not know about you, those are not the women I want to be with unless it is only for quick sex, not for a relationship. Just as I would strongly object if a GF would decide to fuck her boss for a promotion as I know most women I was in a relationship with would object if I did the same with a female boss.

Now I get that it may be the intention to bring out your white knight side and to make it more believable they will not easily get into your bed, but women with such values and/or bad taste you are better of not dating at all. So it defeats it's purpose for a big part of potential players. I also understand it is a way to show sex scenes early on while you want a slow burn with the main characters, but again that defeats its purpose if you turn of a big part of your targeted player base to those main characters.

I would say stop being so fucking lazy and if you want drama try to be a bit more creative, unless you want to make a NTR game of course. Those have their own rules.

Well normally i never comment on NTR games i just look the tags and never click on it to begin with i just ignore all the threads (so i don't keep checking again if the game is playable or not) , but theres no NTR tag here and a got a scare i was very happy with the game and then BANG it was like when you think the elavator will fall

I just want dev to make clear what he is planning to the game and fix the tags ( if not im going to forget it bookmarked and in the future maybe i have a hearthstroke playing a new update )

 

[DA22]

Well normally i never comment on NTR games e just look the tags and never click on it to begin with, but theres no NTR tag here and a got a scare i was very happy with the game and then BANG it was like when you think the elavator will fall

Yeah the dev actually said it will not be NTR and episode 2 will explain it. Just what seems to be his need to add drama and early sex destroyed someone that seems to be a main character for a big part of his potential player base this way. Well maybe he can win them back in part 2 with an explanation of mind control or such, but she is tainted now for many players. If they are not the target for this game fine. If they are, he shot himself in the feet and some will not take the time to even check out part 2. So any explanation would really have been better done in episode 1 if she is a main character.

 

[lorddarkam]

Yeah the dev actually said it will not be NTR and episode 2 will explain it. Just what seems to be his need to add drama and early sex destroyed someone that seems to be a main character for a big part of his potential player base this way. Well maybe he can win them back in part 2 with an explanation of mind control or such, but she is tainted now for many players. If they are not the target for this game fine. If they are, he shot himself in the feet and some will not take the time to even check out part 2. So any explanation would really have been better done in episode 1 if she is a main character.

i already disliked her cuz the double standarts even if is with the mc i got a bit angry, but a let it go and the game invested a lot of time on her ??? if she was a girl who appear like for a short time and the we never see her again okay but all the update was about her and talking only and them hahaha don't want to even explain anymore also why this slut want to flirt with mc is she is broken wtf

lets hope we can reject this girl and focus on the milf atleast if she keep getting screen time its going to be a bad trip hahaha, if she is a optional girl ok

 

[SpikeZg]

so if you are cocky in all the choices you get to french kiss Monica
and if you are kind you get kiss on the cheek, makes sense...


i still can't get over that last scene, arghhhh, i didn't need that today

 

[DA22]

i already disliked her cuz the double standarts even if is with the mc i got a bit angry, but a let it go and the game invested a lot of time on her ??? if she was a girl who appear like for a short time and the we never see her again okay but all the update was about her and talking only and them hahaha don't want to even explain anymore also why this slut want to flirt with mc is she is broken wtf

lets hope we can reject this girl and focus on the milf atleast if she keep getting screen time its going to be a bad trip hahaha, if she is a optional girl ok

Yeah those double standards/inconsistencies in character of the females is another trope you see in almost all NTR games. There is a market for those characters though, but it will not endear those characters to those that want a more romantic route or make them want to date that character. It just depend on what a dev wants and that is his right in the end.

 

[paust.alex]

I can think only about 1 possible story progression, where there will be no ntr. In the next update we will meet friend of this girl, who is absolute virgin, and Monica, poor Monica will die in a car accident.

 

[lorddarkam]

so if you are cocky in all the choices you get to french kiss Monica
and if you are kind you get kiss on the cheek, makes sense...


i still can't get over that last scene, arghhhh, i didn't need that today

well i played both patchs before the last scene i was so hyped for the game hahaha, then before it i was already thinking she was a slut but maybe she was a lesbian or something like this what is okay

 

[lorddarkam]

I can think only about 1 possible story progression, where there will be no ntr. In the next update we will meet friend of this girl, who is absolute virgin, and Monica, poor Monica will die in a car accident.

HAHAHAH car accident acting lessions but this time you wont care about the girl haha


FUN FACT if the order of the scenes where different not even me would complain if this girl was banged since the beginning and then you met her with a previous conception already you won't fell angry, that just prove how edition its important think about those tv shows with evil editing

 

[MLBnoob]

so if you are cocky in all the choices you get to french kiss Monica
and if you are kind you get kiss on the cheek, makes sense...


i still can't get over that last scene, arghhhh, i didn't need that today

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[christoprd]

It's perfect now