RPGM Onhold Grolokk [v0.65] [gacorman70]

[gacorman70]

Hey gacorman, loved the game and looking forward to the future, just wondering if there was a discord or something or if we wanted to give our feedback here.
While I think the combat is great, after getting Flamethrower, there doesn't appear to be much of a challenge in the game and especially not after getting the healer girl.
Loved the girls and I was just wondering because the game is v0.5, is the story half done?

Hey thanks dude! There is a discord, but currently, it's part of a patreon perk, that might change in the future though. Giving feedback here in the meantime is a viable option since this is pretty much the main forum for the game.

Yeah, the combat definitely doesn't receive the attention that other parts of the game do. All and all I don't intend for it to be a huge part of the game, but once I finish up some other section I'll come back around to do some more work on it. Both aesthetically and in terms of the actual gameplay.

The game is about halfway done. There are three major chapters and about half of chapter 2 is in-game, so we're around the halfway point.

 

[gacorman70]

Is there enough gameplay already to give it a shot or should one wait for the next update?

Piggy backing on what @Zieniuuu posted, I screw the pooch on the most recent release and it had a ton of unfinished content. I'm working on the next update which will have a lot more content and correct many of the mistakes I made in the previous release. I'm hoping to have that one out soon, but I'm still wary of setting any firm release dates. Once the next release is mostly complete and I'm in the final testing/troubleshooting phase, I'll make an announcement about a release dates. The only thing I'll say is that it shouldn't be TOO much longer now.

 

[fakubushe]

port v0.5 android please

 

[gacorman70]

port v0.5 android please

Not gonna make one for 0.5 since it was a trainwreck, will look into 0.6 though.

 

[lordaran]

hope there will be more gangbang, threesome, Etc. scenes and like grolokk forces her girls or let people have their way with her women for a price a mission to bribe to distract or get out of trouble haha that would give the game some spice and kinkiness to it so far i've only seen 1v1 with grolokk and a girl and only one scene where the first girl gets fucked by the guards which is honestly one of the best sex scenes in the game tbh also might i suggest to add a unique scene everytime you lose for example the one where you lose the game because of the massage as you see your girl getting undressed and grolokk about to be killed that was honestly hot make it where your girls gets fucked if you can depends on the severity and event so like if you lose a battle and you have certain characters in your team a unique scene ending will pop out but i guess you have to finish the major parts for now all in all the game is pretty good i like the concept and art i just hope more ntr scenes will be added after all we are dealing with goblins here haha

 

[hrimthyrs]

I guess I should be grateful it took three whole weeks from when I said I was glad somebody finally made a goblin game without rape for somebody else to insist what this game needs is gang rape. 'Cause that's kinky...somehow.

 

[cho'gall]

I guess I should be grateful it took three whole weeks from when I said I was glad somebody finally made a goblin game without rape for somebody else to insist what this game needs is gang rape. 'Cause that's kinky...somehow.

What’s the point of this statement?

 

[cho'gall]

hope there will be more gangbang, threesome, Etc. scenes and like grolokk forces her girls or let people have their way with her women for a price a mission to bribe to distract or get out of trouble haha that would give the game some spice and kinkiness to it so far i've only seen 1v1 with grolokk and a girl and only one scene where the first girl gets fucked by the guards which is honestly one of the best sex scenes in the game tbh also might i suggest to add a unique scene everytime you lose for example the one where you lose the game because of the massage as you see your girl getting undressed and grolokk about to be killed that was honestly hot make it where your girls gets fucked if you can depends on the severity and event so like if you lose a battle and you have certain characters in your team a unique scene ending will pop out but i guess you have to finish the major parts for now all in all the game is pretty good i like the concept and art i just hope more ntr scenes will be added after all we are dealing with goblins here haha

I also thought the guard scene was great as well. I like your suggestions a lot. Hope they are considered by the maker.

 

[lordaran]

I guess I should be grateful it took three whole weeks from when I said I was glad somebody finally made a goblin game without rape for somebody else to insist what this game needs is gang rape. 'Cause that's kinky...somehow.

hey bro yeah i understand your likes but i'm not insisting to a literal gang rape i just meant gangbang where there are multiple men just like the guard scene i understand the concept of the game and it would be just nice to add more scenes where it's not just one on one cause bro like in the game the girls were meant to be for grolokk and the horde and with the forced things i meant was grolokk telling her girls to do something for his own benefit that type of stuff not literally a scene like studio fow where it's literally rape and the girl ain't enjoying it a scene with the girls like that or grolokk tells her girl to suck someone off for information i'm just saying it's too vanilla for my liking and i would love to have more scenes that's NTR but it's up to gacorman in the end of the day it's a great game and i like it i'm just suggesting a little more scenes with that you made it sound like i wanted it to be like goblin slayer lol but yeah i understand your point that's what you like and i'm just suggesting so gg all the best to gacorman great game bro!

 

[lordaran]

I also thought the guard scene was great as well. I like your suggestions a lot. Hope they are considered by the maker.

yesss bro tbh that's my fav scene it was fun and the artwork is good too!! some of the sex scenes of grolokk were good too and tbh the designs and artwork of the girls helped out a lot that's why it's great hope they do more scenes like that in the future!!

 

[AsmodeusX]

anyone know how to complete this quest? "Does a Body Good" (see screenshot)

it's the only side quest left for me to complete and i'm kind of lost


edit: nvm found the guy near the early game stores

 

[hrimthyrs]

not insisting to a literal gang rape i just meant gangbang

Ok, maybe that's what you meant, but that's not what you said:

and like grolokk forces her girls or let people have their way with her women for a price

Force would make it rape, no ifs, ands, or buts. Thank you for clarifying that's not what you meant.

i would love to have more scenes that's NTR

NTR is a genre that focuses on the emotional turmoil caused by being cheated on. If Grolokk is ordering or even just allowing his harem to fuck others then he's not being cheated on because the harem girls aren't breaking the rules. Gangbangs are great, NTR is melodrama with sex scenes.

 

[Gervoh]

NTR is a genre that focuses on the emotional turmoil caused by being cheated on. If Grolokk is ordering or even just allowing his harem to fuck others then he's not being cheated on because the harem girls aren't breaking the rules. Gangbangs are great, NTR is melodrama with sex scenes.

People on the forum either don't know that NTR has subgenres or choose to ignore the fact and I'm fairly certain F95 doesn't have either "Netorase" or "Sharing" tags, where such a scene (like the guards gangbang) would fall into. There's "Swinging" but that's not exactly just giving your partner over but rather also taking action on anothers' partner.

 

[gacorman70]

hope there will be more gangbang, threesome, Etc. scenes and like grolokk forces her girls or let people have their way with her women for a price a mission to bribe to distract or get out of trouble haha that would give the game some spice and kinkiness to it so far i've only seen 1v1 with grolokk and a girl and only one scene where the first girl gets fucked by the guards which is honestly one of the best sex scenes in the game tbh also might i suggest to add a unique scene everytime you lose for example the one where you lose the game because of the massage as you see your girl getting undressed and grolokk about to be killed that was honestly hot make it where your girls gets fucked if you can depends on the severity and event so like if you lose a battle and you have certain characters in your team a unique scene ending will pop out but i guess you have to finish the major parts for now all in all the game is pretty good i like the concept and art i just hope more ntr scenes will be added after all we are dealing with goblins here haha

I think you're gonna like what's in the next release.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

People on the forum either don't know that NTR has subgenres or choose to ignore the fact and I'm fairly certain F95 doesn't have either "Netorase" or "Sharing" tags, where such a scene (like the guards gangbang) would fall into. There's "Swinging" but that's not exactly just giving your partner over but rather also taking action on anothers' partner.

It's just about whether it fits the forum rules for NTR or not. People arguing about the definition often kind of miss that point. Refusing to tag a game properly isn't really the way to go about disagreeing with the site wide definition. Only issue I'd say is it's a bit vague and that makes a solid agreement difficult.

"NTR [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]"

Some people will consider any character involved with somebody other than the MC in a harem game for example to be NTR here. You could easily say that a harem game is designed to focus all the characters at the player and the player alone. Leaving the definition up to the player's feeling can cause problems like that. It should probably be something like "A romanatic interest can be fucked by a third party against the player's will and/or is unavoidable.". That would make it more consistent anyways.

Swinging does fit the definition better when considering what tag to use for the MC allowing their partner to bang others btw: "Swinging [A couple allowing one or both partners to have sex with a third party.]"

I think there's no netori tag because it's super common to bang somebody else's love interest, though yeah, that tag should probably exist. Netorase seems close enough to normal netorare/swinging to not really need a distinction I guess.

 

[anubis1970]

I think there's no netori tag because it's super common to bang somebody else's love interest, though yeah, that tag should probably exist.

There's a thread in one of the site feedback forums listing planned tag updates, netori is on there. Hopefully that update comes soon.

 

[hrimthyrs]

Some people will consider any character involved with somebody other than the MC in a harem game for example to be NTR here. You could easily say that a harem game is designed to focus all the characters at the player and the player alone. Leaving the definition up to the player's feeling can cause problems like that.

Except it's not left up to players' feelings, at least not the way that definition is worded. "Designed to..." makes it squarely a question of developer's intent. If the text of a game makes it clear the the MC's sex partners/love interests aren't expected to be monogamous and somebody who had a fundamentalist upbringing and is still operating on the ideas that were probably beat into them*—like "monogamy is the only valid way to do things and everything else is degeneracy"—doesn't like that, they don't have any justification to force an NTR tag on the game. That's why, when the Aya gangbang scene got added and some people pitched a fit and started insisting the game was degeneracy and scarred them for life and had to be tagged NTR post haste so nobody else would suffer their terrible fate, I pointed out the game had made it clear from the very start that Grolokk wasn't going to be the only one fucking the harem girls. Sharing wasn't even subtext, it was text. Missing that was on the people trying to force an inaccurate tag on the game.

But, there's a special interest group here who really hate the idea of women being anything other than Vestal Virgins until they meet the MC and his divine cock, and then never, ever, so much as look twice at another man until the day they die of old age. That pressure group tries to get every single game whose female characters depart from their personal, feminine ideal tagged NTR because they know it's a controversial tag that will scare off a lot of people who would have otherwise played (and potentially financially supported) the game.

* — Look, I'm sympathetic, I was raised Mormon and I know it takes a long time to unlearn all that horseshit.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

Except it's not left up to players' feelings, at least not the way that definition is worded. "Designed to..." makes it squarely a question of developer's intent. If the text of a game makes it clear the the MC's sex partners/love interests aren't expected to be monogamous and somebody who had a fundamentalist upbringing and is still operating on the ideas that were probably beat into them*—like "monogamy is the only valid way to do things and everything else is degeneracy"—doesn't like that, they don't have any justification to force an NTR tag on the game. That's why, when the Aya gangbang scene got added and some people pitched a fit and started insisting the game was degeneracy and scarred them for life and had to be tagged NTR post haste so nobody else would suffer their terrible fate, I pointed out the game had made it clear from the very start that Grolokk wasn't going to be the only one fucking the harem girls. Sharing wasn't even subtext, it was text. Missing that was on the people trying to force an inaccurate tag on the game.

But, there's a special interest group here who really hate the idea of women being anything other than Vestal Virgins until they meet the MC and his divine cock, and then never, ever, so much as look twice at another man until the day they die of old age. That pressure group tries to get every single game whose female characters depart from their personal, feminine ideal tagged NTR because they know it's a controversial tag that will scare off a lot of people who would have otherwise played (and potentially financially supported) the game.

* — Look, I'm sympathetic, I was raised Mormon and I know it takes a long time to unlearn all that horseshit.

Don't try to insult someone's kinks by bringing up/trying to connect them to real world traumas or whatever please, it's really childish. People like what they like and there's no problem with that as long as they aren't hurting anyone. You can easily turn the shit you're saying back around on the NTR crowd. That's how we get these stupid arguments in every thread. If you care more about improving things than standing on some morale high horse over something that should have no effect on your worth/value/standing as a person: Accept that people like different shit than you, and it doesn't make anybody better or worse (Again, as long as they aren't hurting anybody).

I think too many people want to feel superior to others and are lazy as fuck, that combination means they come up with ludicrous reasons why their preferences/orientations/natural features make them better than another group so they can pat themselves on the back without actually doing anything. Really though, people trying to insult somebody for wanting their fantasy game to fit their preferred fantasy, that's kind of bottom of the barrel even for that kind of shit... We're all perverts, it's like trying to pick a fight with somebody over something that means less than nothing. Funny thing is it's usually just somebody asking for a tag/warning and not to change the whole game to cater to them.

The tags aren't just for the person interested in them, it's also to allow people to avoid tags they don't like. Would be like somebody complaining about a VR game not having a spider tag in it when there are spider like creatures in the game, and somebody comes in and goes "Akshully, that's not really a spider because it doesn't follow the scientific definition of a spider...". Yeah, maybe, but if it fucks up people that don't like spiders, a warning is needed.

I don't even know about the content in this game that got the NTR tag added anyways. From what it sounds like from the messages I've read, just seems like there's not really an adequate tag to describe the situation in the game properly. Kind of potentially a mix between ntr and cheating or something. Sometimes some compromises need to be made. The NTR or cheating tag is kind of "safe" in that regard, because of the similarities to the situation presented in the game. Group sex is not an adequate warning, it's not even close from what I can tell. I'm much more on the side of "warn people that hate that kink", over "warn people who like that kink", if we have to choose one or the other because I've never in my life searched for a game by kink tags, but I certainly have avoided games with certain tags. Which do you think is more common?

There are also other ways to warn people of content with the OP other than tags to explain the content of the game better.

 

[t727]

Chapter 2: I get to the "Bridge"-town.
The bridge guards refuse to talk to me, the overseer tells me am a nasty goblin, which is true. But nothing else.
How do I trigger the quest chain?!

I posted this in march but nobody seem to know...
gacorman70 could you assist please?

 

[hrimthyrs]

Don't try to insult someone's kinks by bringing up/trying to connect them to real world traumas or whatever please, it's really childish.

The people who go around trying to force the NTR tag on non-NTR games are the ones that sometimes claim they're motivated by trauma. Some of them seem genuine about that, some of them are obviously lying. I sympathize with the former, I'm going to mock the shit out of the latter.

I'm fully aware of what the tags are for, including being useful for avoiding games with content you don't like or find to be a trauma trigger. You know what? I'm just going to quote what I've said elsewhere in this thread to illustrate this, and so you'll also know you're completely off-base with all your weird grandstanding about moral high horses, implying I'm just yucking others' yums, etc., when I'm the one pushing back against people trying to yuck my yums by falsely labeling them with a controversial tag:

I myself dislike NTR and, if I weren't already familiar with this game, I would have passed it by because of that tag, meaning I wouldn't have played it, let alone started supporting it on Patreon, and this is exactly why I've pushed back so hard whenever the topic of that tag has come up.

Your "spider like creatures" analogy is a false one, because consensual sharing—and something that is very loudly foreshadowed in this game from a very early point in gameplay and since the earliest publicly-available release is that the harem girls were "for the horde" and not Grolokk alone—is absolutely not cheating nor NTR in any way, shape, or form. That's not pedants going "Akshully, that's not really a spider because it doesn't follow the scientific definition of a spider...", that's people pointing out that the wolf like creatures in the game aren't spiders in any way, shape, or form. (The cheating tag at least being another arthropod in this analogy. Crabs, let's say, since that word surely hasn't any unfortunate associations with adult activities.) That some people see group sex and NTR as the same thing doesn't give them the right to force the NTR tag on a game, especially since the game already had the group sex tag, which is already adequate warning for them that this game isn't to their taste. And that the people who refuse to see a difference between consensual group sex and NTR don't ever push the less controversial cheating tag is suspicious.

A better analogy would be people insisting a game with wolf like creatures and already tagged with a wolf tag needed a spider tag. There's not a reasonable expectation that wolves could trigger the adverse reaction associated with arachnophobia the way, say, crabs might, and if somebody doesn't want to play a game with either, they can easily avoid games with either tag, so there's no need to inaccurately tag games that only have one of the two with both tags. And, as I've pointed out repeatedly, the NTR tag is a polarizing one that drives away people that probably would have played or even financially supported the game. Go read the thread for any game with that tag and it won't take long to find people loudly announcing they're skipping the game because of the alleged NTR content. So, no, it's not a "safe" tag at all.