VN Ren'Py Heart Problems [v0.8 Final] [Xenorav]

[MrFriendly]

My god I hope this update will get the romance between Mc and Amelia back on track. Because at 0.3, it was a lot of drama for me, I was already thinking that I had done something wrong, this "dinner" is already giving me chills.

I know, I know ... I'm fucking jealous. haha ha

I don't really have hopes tbh. If the dev wants this game to gain in popularity and last awhile they can't rush the sex with Amelie. I have a feeling we're going to get a lot of sex with other people before the MC finally gets to be with her, similar to the game away from home (which took too long) otherwise what do people have to anticipate?

It would be nice if the dev got rid of the forced sex with Lauren and let players skip her completely. Not a fan of games which don't give the player a choice.

 

[Abhai]

I don't really have hopes tbh. If the dev wants this game to gain in popularity and last awhile they can't rush the sex with Amelie. I have a feeling we're going to get a lot of sex with other people before the MC finally gets to be with her, similar to the game away from home (which took too long) otherwise what do people have to anticipate?

It would be nice if the dev got rid of the forced sex with Lauren and let players skip her completely. Not a fan of games which don't give the player a choice.

If that is the case, that would be just another cliche, not sure if the dev wanna to pursue it.
This game kinda has setup for more intimate actions with Amelie already (check their interactions from the very start), and imo it would benefit more with getting her early in the game, and after that creating some proper drama if they wanna to continue their forbidden relation.
On the later I agree - always is good to have as many as possible scenes/characters optional, particularly if we are speaking of side characters/scenes.

 

[MrFriendly]

If that is the case, that would be just another cliche, not sure if the dev wanna to pursue it.
This game kinda has setup for more intimate actions with Amelie already (check their interactions from the very start), and imo it would benefit more with getting her early in the game, and after that creating some proper drama if they wanna to continue their forbidden relation.
On the later I agree - always is good to have as many as possible scenes/characters optional, particularly if we are speaking of side characters/scenes.

Yeah, just a delicate balance when it comes to giving the audience what they are looking for too early or making them wait too long. If the MC is able to fuck Amelie too soon then the game becomes all about the fallout of that situation (or doesn't and devolves into a standard fuckfest), if the MC (player) has to wait 12 updates it doesn't matter what else happens because everyone focuses on that one sex scene (and the whining can reach epic levels).

I'd love to see a situation where the MC slower insinuates himself into her life, helps her push Davie away, and then they have to deal with the fallout of their relationship. But I don't know if I should expect that. Most likely they will fuck and swear to keep it secret...

And devs need to make things optional, even Amelie should be optional (which she seems to be so far). Lauren shouldn't be a required scene. Especially if people are not fans of that three letter thing, saw her with Derek, and don't want to pursue her.

 

[Abhai]

Yeah, just a delicate balance when it comes to giving the audience what they are looking for too early or making them wait too long. If the MC is able to fuck Amelie too soon then the game becomes all about the fallout of that situation (or doesn't and devolves into a standard fuckfest), if the MC (player) has to wait 12 updates it doesn't matter what else happens because everyone focuses on that one sex scene (and the whining can reach epic levels).

I'd love to see a situation where the MC slower insinuates himself into her life, helps her push Davie away, and then they have to deal with the fallout of their relationship. But I don't know if I should expect that. Most likely they will fuck and swear to keep it secret...

And devs need to make things optional, even Amelie should be optional (which she seems to be so far). Lauren shouldn't be a required scene. Especially if people are not fans of that three letter thing, saw her with Derek, and don't want to pursue her.

We can only wait and see how those things will be handled by the dev.
Personally Im more into hide and seek fucking with Amelie for example, yet nothing wrong with a bit slower approach of my pleasure's type, or mixing those two...

 

[D-Vine]

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As you may have noticed, in this game the decisions or routes are not very well implemented, this is because I honestly don't like the idea of implementing routes at this point in the story, I think the implementation of routes is just a way to ruin the reader's experience, I think that with a single route where you have all the content to see at once is much better the idea, but of course this is just my opinion. Some of you don't like "X" characters, so in this case a decision to skip those characters that we just don't care about is ideal. My idea is to make these timelines for the end of the novel, for the last 3 or 5 chapters, so to have different endings.
The main idea is to keep the system as it is at present, decisions with obvious short-term consequences that do not change the course of the plot, or only slightly divert it.
So that's what this post is about, leave your comments, I read you.
-Xenorav

 

[Abhai]

Hmm.." implementation of routes is just a way to ruin the reader's experience" is fairly brave statement, unless we are speaking of single-route-harem-lover players, and those hardly can be majority.
Anyway, this should put an end on related discussions here - routes not gonna happen, ende.
One thing is for sure - it does mean much simpler developing process overall, so steady update have to/should be expected.
Three months period is fine (if not less), yet having 4-5 months per update, as it is starting to look based on the latest update progress hardly can be acceptable imo.

 

[MrFriendly]

Hmm.." implementation of routes is just a way to ruin the reader's experience" is fairly brave statement, unless we are speaking of single-route-harem-lover players, and those hardly can be majority.
Anyway, this should put an end on related discussions here - routes not gonna happen, ende.
One thing is for sure - it does mean much simpler developing process overall, so steady update have to/should be expected.
Three months period is fine (if not less), yet having 4-5 months per update, as it is starting to look based on the latest update progress hardly can be acceptable imo.

Honestly sounds like "you're all going to fuck Lauren and flirt with the creepy loli AND LIKE It until I allow you to choose a route much later in the game".
Eh, I prefer to be able to choose who the MC fucks from the beginning instead of being roped into being a slut until the MC suddenly learns to keep his dick in his pants.
We shall see what happens I suppose, just consider me skeptical.

 

[Abhai]

Honestly sounds like "you're all going to fuck Lauren and flirt with the creepy loli AND LIKE It until I allow you to choose a route much later in the game".
Eh, I prefer to be able to choose who the MC fucks from the beginning instead of being roped into being a slut until the MC suddenly learns to keep his dick in his pants.
We shall see what happens I suppose, just consider me skeptical.

fast-skip option will be used overtime, and this game isnt of those story-heavy anyway.
the girls my mc is interested in will have his full attention, other girls will be ctrlrd.
at least there should be few optional endings, nevermind the means to get there.

 

[MrFriendly]

fast-skip option will be used overtime, and this game isnt of those story-heavy anyway.
the girls my mc is interested in will have his full attention, other girls will be ctrlrd.
at least there should be few optional endings, nevermind the means to get there.

Yeah, I think I may see how the next update goes and if we are forced into more situations we can't turn down then I am going to bow out. Like the visuals of this game I just prefer choice overall anything else. To me player agency is the sexiest part of these games. Choose your own adventures with porn visuals is why I play these games.

 

[HansDampf788]

On the contrary to Abhai and MrFriendly, I hope this game will have a full harem route.

 

[MrFriendly]

On the contrary to Abhai and MrFriendly, I hope this game will have a full harem route.

A pervert wants what they want... No reason the dev couldn't do both solo routes and a "fuck em all with a magical dick" harem route.

 

[JC07]

First of all, when I say get the romance back on track, I mean everything was going really well, earning love and lust points, and then almost all the choices were for the point of anger and lose the love point. And all this dining and doing things with Uncle, like I understand that it might not be that, but I tested some options and Amelia "always" says she loves her uncle (even if it's a lie) and she seems predestined to do anything to win her husband back. While the MC who has been kind and caring is thrown aside. I understand that this dinner is part of the story that Dev wants to tell us, and it will probably explain and it will be a disaster and that also Amelia may be in love with Mc and is trying to get away from her feelings wanting to win her husband back, but that would be the case her to walk away entirely from Mc is not asked for him to help with this, go with her to buy a dress, call him to talk about it, it seems more that she is trying to provoke the MC with jealousy than anything.
I also agree that you shouldn't rush sex with MC, I personally like games with engaging stories, if I wanted a quick fap I would be on pornhub, so I don't mind a slow burn. But the provocation is boring too. Like they had a very solid relationship, and now it's kind of back to square one? it's boring too. Comparing to what happened in Project atmosphere, where the relationship between mother and son was too fast, neither had a direct kiss and they were already sucking, then people complained, and Dev made the mother lose her memory (she lost the memory of the last one). month, that is, only the part of the relationship between them) and now Mc has to conquer her again.
I am not saying that this is the case here, what I say is that I am fine when I have to conquer an LI on a slow burn, but don't make me get close to her and make her our favorite and then take or steal her away from us.

About the route system, well I like the Harem, but I also like being able to choose who to stay with, so I know that it is a lot of work for DEV to make several final solos, several harem combination endings and one complete harem end. So if I have a harem ending, I'm going to follow him, because I don't like to choose between Li's after following his full story, but I understand if DEV doesn't want it, but it could be something like in the Freeloading game, where you follow the routes you want and at the end you choose one of the girls on the routes you’re following, so you can see all the endings without having to do it all over again. I don't know if that was what the DEV said in the pronouncement he gave, I don't speak English so it complicates the understanding a little.

and as I said in the previous post, I think this game is not going to have those damn three letters. But I also hope that DEV doesn't provoke us too much with jealousy, I'm fucking jealous, I even like Uncle and such, but the fact that he is now wanting my Aunt back makes me hate him ... hahaha ... so what I wanted to say was that in this next update something happens to leave the path clear for the MC can return the love to the tracks with Amelia (to conquer her as Real Men, not a pervert rubbing herself).

 

[JC07]

Lauren shouldn't be a required scene. Especially if people are not fans of that three letter thing, saw her with Derek, and don't want to pursue her.

I didn't see it, do you mean Derek had something with her? When did this happen?

EDIT: I'm also not a fan of Lauren or Mia, for me the only one who can compete with Amelia until now and the eldest daughter (I forgot her name now). The youngest daughter I even like her, I think she is funny and such, but give me vibrations from the Acting Lessons nurse.

 

[MrFriendly]

I didn't see it, do you mean Derek had something with her? When did this happen?

EDIT: I'm also not a fan of Lauren or Mia, for me the only one who can compete with Amelia until now and the eldest daughter (I forgot her name now). The youngest daughter I even like her, I think she is funny and such, but give me vibrations from the Acting Lessons nurse.

Yeah, so if you go to the bathroom at the same time Derek goes the MC ends up going to the outdoor bathroom. On the trip back you see through the window Derek groping a rather happy looking Lauren in the kitchen. Derek is pressing himself against her ass just like the MC does to Lauren and Amelia.

Now, I don't really care because I am not a giant fan of Lauren but I do think others may have an issue with that.

 

[JC07]

Okay, I didn't really go to the bathroom, so I didn't see that, and I agree with you, this can be a problem, although it is one of the most uninteresting "LI" in the game, it's something that will make it even worse.

 

[duningtwo]

is lauren the fat one who forcefucks you? because that was lame.

 

[MrFriendly]

is lauren the fat one who forcefucks you? because that was lame.

Yep, even if you are the rudest shithead to her she still shows up and fucks the MC. For some reason she will be offended enough not to bring the MC any chili and give him a blowjob that night but she will arrive at Davie and Amelie's house later and fuck the MC. <shrug> It's really inconsistent.

 

[duningtwo]

Yep, even if you are the rudest shithead to her she still shows up and fucks the MC. For some reason she will be offended enough not to bring the MC any chili and give him a blowjob that night but she will arrive at Davie and Amelie's house later and fuck the MC. <shrug> It's really inconsistent.

yeah, i remember now. was jarring and annoying. shame, because the rest of this game is good. more of these things need to allow the player to be a complete bastard to ugly women, with actual consequences.

 

[sdawg1234]

So this will mostly be a kinetic novel until we get near the end of the story. I know there are "choices" in game but they tend to lead down the same path anyways and after that dev post it seems he's going to stay on that path. Not sure if I'll continue this game while it's like that I'll wait for next update then decide.

 

[Wicked Garden]

From the Devs post on Patreon it sounds like this game is going to have a more straightforward, kinetic type setting. I'm fine with that just so long as he implement the option that gives players the choice to romance who they want. That oughta clear up some of the static in this thread.