You are right, that dice rolls are not that important. The single most important thing is the fact, that GM is supposed to help the party to a certain extent. There are different ways for the GM to (cheat) help the players.
Why not just stick with that then? There is no real punishment for not winning the CoC minigame. It doesn't hamper progress.
That's a very subjective opinion. For me it is enjoyable thanks to RNG. I've always enjoyed rolling a dice and I've always played RPGs that have a strong element of luck involved in it. There would be very little gameplay or excitement without it. Y'know what I found least enjoyable in CoC? The final encounter - because there was no RNG in it. It was faked and that was frustrating.
No, the comparison is people going swimming and complaining they couldn't win a 1v1 race because they were forced to wear a red cap and some unknown god had decided blue cap will be the winner. I'm playing devil's advocate here, and I don't think is that hard to understand, really. Most people just want to beat games. If you offer them a minigame, players expect to be able to beat it (reasonably fast). It's not really fun to sit with a character you're interested in, just to be killed after 2 dice rolls before the scene is over, when you don't get anything immediately after in exchange. People want to beat that game too, explore all the options included by the dev, because their only incentive to endure that scene is precisely exploring and beating the game, unless they are some RNG junkies like you who enjoy being killed after 2 bad rolls because 'nice, that's how RNG works'. I know, I know, they can try again, but that can be frustrating and feel pointless after a couple of times. When it all comes down to pure RNG, well, I don't really think there are many people like you playing this kind of lewd games, if they really enjoy RNG systems they'd be playing some h-roulette or whatever. I think people play H5 for its story and not for the RNG, so they don't like it that much when they encounter that kind of content. You like that, but according to comments not many people do.
My comparison is complaining about very obvious nature of the given activity. Swimming requires water. Turn-based combat requires an element of randomness.
I don't get this "must play everything because I need to beat everything?" mindset, but never mind that. I agree with you those "I want every reward NOW!" people shouldn't play until it's finished.
Yet they have all the right to complain about all the things they didn't like. This is not a 'show your support to the dev' thread anymore, but a 'discuss the game and its shortcomings' one. Those who actually want to 'help' are already in Notty's forum, I assume.
Everything you say make me feel that you're forcing yourself to play a game you don't like. Maybe you shoud just drop it, there is nothing wrong with that.
More of a "thrash the game" thread this year. I suppose you're right. It's not the feedback and discussion thread it used to be. It sorta makes sense without dev presence, unfortunately.
Then I don't see the problem. I'd accept your points if playing CoC was necessary but it's not. And the RNG shouldn't come as a surprise. It's a tabletop RPG minigame, so of course there would be RNG. How can anyone expect something else? I think it becomes apparent soon enough that this isn't a simple VN, and most activities have some kind of gameplay element to them. Moreso, it's possible to switch from CoC to VR after the first (and even second I think?) session. I'd think the lack of "Completed" prefix is rather telling that paths are unfinished, no? A single playthrough regardless of choices offers significant playtime I'd argue. Those who claim otherwise either skip or take no time to think about what they read.
Heh, I rather agree with your thoughts on Sarah. I think she's defo playing with us in more ways than one.
No, please don't get me wrong. I do like the game because I see the project as a whole and even though some parts are not made for my tastes, I still see the insane amount of work behind them and the overall thing is going to be just great if she keeps going like this (and mostly I want to see what the hell is going on in Ophion). I'm just stating why other people don't like it, I find that criticism absolute legit because I understand their standpoint and how they played the game, expecting something else that simply is not there and getting frustrated by the content not designed for them but that they still find anyway while searching for something they hoped they could like. These are not people bashing the dev out with false accusations of milking and so on, these are people who played the game and hoped to like it but just couldn't, and then come here and try to explain why. And of course their comments are bitter and sometimes even illogical, because they just didn't like the game and there's no technical reason for it but just a personal feeling of... wasted time and frustration due to gameplay elements they never like. It's hard to explain that in a way you wouldn't find irrational or even offensive because they'll tend to focus precisely on those elements they absolutely hate and build their comment from there, and then you are going to think why the hell were they even playing to begin with. Of course you're going to think they can't appreciate nor even understand all what you love about H5 and they should just go and stay away (which is what they're going to do anyway). But I do understand them. That's all.
I don't know what you mean...
She's right up there but I still prefer Jane.Damn, Barbarian babe is probably the hotest character in this game
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Thanks. How do I get to it? It says to get a ladder and a power tool to get to the vent. Where do I find them?
Mike has the ladder, so go see him at the power plant. You can find the drill in the workshop table.
I got the ladder and I found the drill, but for some reason, it won't let me grab the drill. The MC just keeps saying "Easy access general toolkit. Handy for hitting pipes with but not much else" Am I supposed to do something else first or is this a bug in the game?
You just to know where it is, so that your character can automatically get it and use when needed. You should now be able to open the vent.
