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So, yeah, "modern ammo has an oxidizer". Perhaps they did things a bit differently in her future (can't remember how it was said in here).
All gunpowder and 98% of military explosives have ALWAYS had a built in oxidizer, for the simple reason that it's very hard to get enough atmospheric oxygen dispersed into a fuel quickly enough to create a proper explosion, and not just a fire. The only exception I can even think of off hand are fuel air explosives, aka thermobarics, which are a relatively recent innovation and are rather hard to do. Believe it or not, the main issue with guns in space is barrel overheating. Without air to cool your gun, your barrel can get warped very quickly. Compensating for recoil would also be a bitch in freefall.

Oh, the LSAC 218 Machine Pistol:
1) Its main feature is the "ability to operate in an oxygen free environment".
It means it can be used in harsh environments like space vacuum or on celestial bodies without atmosphere, each one with an extreme range of temperatures.
Then why would she say "oxygen free environment"? Vacuums are certainly an issue for firearms, due to various temperature issues, but she specifically said oxygen. A normal modern firearm would work just as well in an anoxic atmosphere as our atmosphere, provided the conductivity, pressure, and corrosion effects were the same... which they wouldn't be, but the point stands.
 
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All gunpowder and 98% of military explosives have ALWAYS had a built in oxidizer, for the simple reason that it's very hard to get enough atmospheric oxygen dispersed into a fuel quickly enough to create a proper explosion, and not just a fire. The only exception I can even think of off hand are fuel air explosives, aka thermobarics, which are a relatively recent innovation and are rather hard to do. Believe it or not, the main issue with guns in space is barrel overheating. Without air to cool your gun, your barrel can get warped very quickly. Compensating for recoil would also be a bitch in freefall.



Then why would she say "oxygen free environment"? Vacuums are certainly an issue for firearms, due to various temperature issues, but she specifically said oxygen. A normal modern firearm would work just as well in an anoxic atmosphere as our atmosphere, provided the conductivity, pressure, and corrosion effects were the same... which they wouldn't be, but the point stands.
go touch grass.
 

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Yeah I know it's almost like this is a science fiction game and a certain level of basic realism is desirable.

Look I don't mean to be testy here, but this is really basic stuff. The dev could have just looked up "guns in space" and read for about 30 mins before putting silly stuff like this in there.

Or maybe I could just stop caring about realism in porn games and get back to my schoolwork...
 
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I don't think it is more a matter of suspension of disbelief than a matter of realism and this is exactly what can happen if you put modern guns in a sci-fi story.
 

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I must confess, I am very excited about this "Philosophical strip ping-pong" (if I rememeber correctly its title), because I don't have the slightest idea about what the hell it can mean.
 
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love the idea of people with an accent in the game but as a non native english speaker is there a translation to normal english as its hard to decypher sometimes XD
 
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so the game cuts out after entering chapter 3. i have the latest version 2rs and in game it shows me after kicking me out and restarting chapters 1 and 2 v1.rs something i am missing here ?
 

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Then why would she say "oxygen free environment"? Vacuums are certainly an issue for firearms, due to various temperature issues, but she specifically said oxygen. A normal modern firearm would work just as well in an anoxic atmosphere as our atmosphere, provided the conductivity, pressure, and corrosion effects were the same... which they wouldn't be, but the point stands.
Well, well, well.. One month to respond to my quoted post?!
Do you really think your point still stands with my point 2) unquoted??
And ask yourself why a Dev, who is a SciFi fan like me, would refer to a none around oxygen environment..

Yeah I know it's almost like this is a science fiction game and a certain level of basic realism is desirable.

Look I don't mean to be testy here, but this is really basic stuff. The dev could have just looked up "guns in space" and read for about 30 mins before putting silly stuff like this in there.

Or maybe I could just stop caring about realism in porn games and get back to my schoolwork...
Do you really think you can make generalities about a certain level of basic realism in a science fiction game with only one reference quoted from one only fire weapon description??

Do you want basic stuff from SciFi adult Fans? I can provide it to you.. Kiddo.
So, if I say an assault riffle which "needs oxygen around" it to be able to fire in space vacuum without a special case, is it ringing any bell? I guess not.

The LSAC 218 Machine Pistol, with its "oxygen free environment" specification, is an homage and a solution to Vera, Jayne Cobb's favourite assault riffle, 'cause "She needs oxygen around her to fire" in Firefly(TV series).. A cult series.
It's in the "Our Mrs Reynolds" episode, which leads to one of the coolest SciFi scene I've ever seen:
Vera, placed in an upper space suit with a helmet and sealed to Jayne's forearms with adhesive tapes, shooting four rounds through the helmet visor. SciFi in all its glory!!!

So do the Dev and us a favour, get back to your schoolwork. It's not an adult game for nothing...

 
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Well, well, well.. One month to respond to my quoted post?!
Do you really think your point still stands with my point 2) unquoted?
And ask yourself why a Dev, who is a SciFi fan like me, would refer to a none around oxygen environment..
Maybe he hasn't answered because your second point was a nonsense? Do you really think the real cartridges doesn't contain all the necessary oxidizer to burn completely the charge? Do you really want have a barrel encrusted with the residual of the unburned charge, after some shots during a gunfire? I don't think so.

Do you really think you can make generalities about a certain level of basic realism in a science fiction game with only one reference quoted from one only fire weapon description??

Do you want basic stuff from SciFi adult Fans? I can provide it to you.. Kiddo.

So, if I say an assault riffle which "needs oxygen around" it to be able to fire in space vacuum without a special case, is it ringing any bell? I guess not.

The LSAC 218 Machine Pistol, with its "oxygen free environment" specification, is an homage and a solution to Vera, Jayne Cobb's favourite assault riffle, 'cause "She needs oxygen around her to fire" in Firefly(TV series).. A cult series.
It's in the "Our Mrs Reynolds" episode, which leads to one of the coolest SciFi scene I've ever seen:
Vera, placed in an upper space suit with a helmet and sealed to Jayne's forearms with adhesive tapes, shooting four rounds through the helmet visor. SciFi in all its glory!!!

So do the Dev and us a favour, get back to your schoolwork. It's not an adult game for nothing...

I really don't think this "homage" to a so called cult series is a good explanation. The fact that this sentence doesn't make any sense in that context is a fact and it doesn't matter if it is an homage or not.
 
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The remaster is the most up-to-date one, and the best one to download. CH3 Remastered should be due this month, it just needs testing.

Open post on Patreon here -
which one is the remastered then ? as the one called ch. 4 remaster is weirdly enough only chapter 1 and says its the remaster but if that one is the most up to date then why is the 2RS already ready for chapter 3?
 

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Both are remastered, but the Ch.2rs is the re-remastered edition of the game and the entire game will be based on this release. The Ch.4r is the old remastered edition of the game, which contains also the chapter 3 annd 4, but it will no have any further development. So I suggest to play the Ch.2rs and await for the Ch.3rs, the Ch.4rs, the Ch.5rs…

P.S. I suggest also a painkiller for the headache that this orgy of remastered releases has surely caused.
 

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which one is the remastered then ? as the one called ch. 4 remaster is weirdly enough only chapter 1 and says its the remaster but if that one is the most up to date then why is the 2RS already ready for chapter 3?
Pick any page in the last 3 months or so and you get your answer, its bot hard to read back. I cant wait for 5 to be out just so the same question isnt asked 50 times a month.
 

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Both are remastered, but the Ch.2rs is the re-remastered edition of the game and the entire game will be based on this release. The Ch.4r is the old remastered edition of the game, which contains also the chapter 3 annd 4, but it will no have any further development. So I suggest to play the Ch.2rs and await for the Ch.3rs, the Ch.4rs, the Ch.5rs…

P.S. I suggest also a painkiller for the headache that this orgy of remastered releases has surely caused.
still not as bas as sylphine or as it used to be called sylphia island its on its what ? 50th remaster redesign so this game is doing good if its only this.
 

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Maybe he hasn't answered because your second point was a nonsense? Do you really think the real cartridges doesn't contain all the necessary oxidizer to burn completely the charge? Do you really want have a barrel encrusted with the residual of the unburned charge, after some shots during a gunfire? I don't think so.
Nonsense??
Therefore, you don't know how the large white or yellow fireball is created farther from the barrel's muzzle after the bullet leaves the barrel.
Yeah, it's called muzzle flash..

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No surrounding oxygen and no extra oxygen provided: almost no muzzle flash and much more of incompletely combusted ejecta added to your surrounding.. No gravity and you have the worst of scenario.

Basic stuff indeed!

I really don't think this "homage" to a so called cult series is a good explanation. The fact that this sentence doesn't make any sense in that context is a fact and it doesn't matter if it is an homage or not.
Was homage a too strong word for you?
What about nod or at least reference then?!

https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-2rs-nottravis.23184/post-2407166
"My elevator pitch would be Battlestar Galactica with a side order of Firefly and a side order of humour."

The true fact here is that you're making a fool of yourself once again.. Mr "false infos" about a new RR version of the game...
 
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Nonsense??
Therefore, you don't know how the large white or yellow fireball is created farther from the barrel's muzzle after the bullet leaves the barrel.
Yeah, it's called muzzle flash..

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No surrounding oxygen and no extra oxygen provided: almost no muzzle flash and much more of incompletely combusted ejecta added to your surrounding.. No gravity and you have the worst of scenario.

Basic stuff indeed!
Thank you for the answer. Do you know the muzzle flash is due to the barrel's lenght; shorter is the barrel and greater is the muzzle flash because the charge doesn't has the time to burn completely inside the barrel, so you can solve that issue using a longer barrel, not with a longer cartridge?

Was homage a too strong word for you?
What about nod or at least reference then?!

https://f95zone.to/threads/heavy-five-ch-2rs-nottravis.23184/post-2407166
"My elevator pitch would be Battlestar Galactica with a side order of Firefly and a side order of humour."

The true fact here is that you're making a fool of yourself once again.. Mr "false infos" about a new RR version of the game...
If someone answer to you talking about homage, nod or reference, when you talk about the fact that a sentence doesn't make any sense in a certain context, then there is not answer.

P.S. This reply contains an homage.
 
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