Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[Kagarus]

Putting the "it's never going to get finished! (Then why are you here?) Vaporware! Milker! (With a paused Patreon...)" trolls aside...

Are we sure there's not some kind of Notty's Law along the lines of "As Rendering Power increases, the amount of Rendering Work (Quality*Scenes) desired increases proportionally", such that an 80-times increase in rendering power actually does not change rendering time ("speed") much?

 

[XaGnard]

Hahaha, this reaction of yours only shows one thing, you're not well-informed at all.

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You didn't see it coming, defo!
This new graphics workstation purchase, also as a prohibitively expensive one as the previous 3090Ti rig but on her own finance this time, defeats all yours "predictions" made in your last "blablating" posts..

And suggesting that the new coming Chap5 RS is possibly vapourware in your second to last post is your last troll's prediction.. To me!

New Year's resolution: Feed the list. Bye bye!!

It's always nice to see how some people here blindly trust the statements of people on the internet. Nevertheless, I think it can't hurt to show a little more skepticism. If the project were somehow running smoothly, then you might have a good argument, but as long as that's not the case, I have zero faith in this developer's statements. Sometimes it is better to simply wait and see. With this game (if it is still in development), i think this is the best way.

 

[brody990]

Putting the "it's never going to get finished! (Then why are you here?) Vaporware! Milker! (With a paused Patreon...)" trolls aside...

Are we sure there's not some kind of Notty's Law along the lines of "As Rendering Power increases, the amount of Rendering Work (Quality*Scenes) desired increases proportionally", such that an 80-times increase in rendering power actually does not change rendering time ("speed") much?

iirc She made a planned 400 render scene closer to 5000 frames before she even got the 4090 so if this is true i look forward to all the feature film length renders in chapter 6 and the lotr trilogy length renders in chapter 7.

 

[TheDevian]

iirc She made a planned 400 render scene closer to 5000 frames before she even got the 4090 so if this is true i look forward to all the feature film length renders in chapter 6 and the lotr trilogy length renders in chapter 7.

What I have seen so far has been amazing. XD

 

[Amanwholive]

It seems this game stays like always, a lot of expections but a little bit of work done. Casually, all the people that says "good things" about dev everytime I take a look here, have seen expectacular and amazing things that me, a "normal" patreon, havent seen yet. Funny, isnt it? Must be a cautious secret keeped away to everyone, right?

Still waiting for the "expect def a december release guys" btw

 

[Oddball2k]

iirc She made a planned 400 render scene closer to 5000 frames before she even got the 4090 so if this is true i look forward to all the feature film length renders in chapter 6 and the lotr trilogy length renders in chapter 7.

More like ~8500 frames now, at max depending on your path choices, with the final draft montage if I calculated right.
In the VA editing phase now, "a little bit of work done" as a specific "normal untrusted" Patreon would say.

What I have seen so far has been amazing. XD

I second that.

And the same one, who is "Still waiting for the 'expect def a december release guys' btw", still doesn't know that Chap4 RS release has been cancelled and will be included, as all the previous RS Chapters, in the well anticipated Chap5 RS.

ps: He still doesn't know who we are.. The Discord icon "Show Member List" seems to be a complete mystery for him, or he never looked up in the list.

 

[brody990]

More like ~8500 frames now, at max depending on your path choices, with the final draft montage if I calculated right.
In the VA editing phase now, "a little bit of work done" as a specific "normal untrusted" Patreon would say.


I second that.

And the same one, who is "Still waiting for the 'expect def a december release guys' btw", still doesn't know that Chap4 RS release has been cancelled and will be included, as all the previous RS Chapters, in the well anticipated Chap5 RS.

ps: He still doesn't know who we are.. The Discord icon "Show Member List" seems to be a complete mystery for him, or he never looked up in the list.

i feel like at this point y'all need to have an intervention the next time she "just" goes over by nearly 20x the frames...

 

[Amanwholive]

More like ~8500 frames now, at max depending on your path choices, with the final draft montage if I calculated right.
In the VA editing phase now, "a little bit of work done" as a specific "normal untrusted" Patreon would say.


I second that.

And the same one, who is "Still waiting for the 'expect def a december release guys' btw", still doesn't know that Chap4 RS release has been cancelled and will be included, as all the previous RS Chapters, in the well anticipated Chap5 RS.

ps: He still doesn't know who we are.. The Discord icon "Show Member List" seems to be a complete mystery for him, or he never looked up in the list.

Yes, I know who you are, the guy who says that stopped being a patreon time ago but still is in the exclusive patreon discord, its funny that without being a patreon you have more information than me...
And yes, I know that you have more privileges than the others, thats why I use SARCASM.

You use to stalk the people that doesnt say what you want but you dont even know that I predicted exactly that she wont release anything in december, just what is happening rn, but you were the one saying "no guys, its def december".

Oh, and with a little bit of work done I mean work that we can play rn, she can say what she want but we have just seeing a lots of previews in all these years of waiting.

 

[NeimadFR]

Of course Oddball2k have more information. He's one of the few testers like TotesNotThea, TheDevian and myself. We are pretty much the only ones still bothering with this thread.
I don't recall anyone saying there would be a december release. And if it happened it would be someone uninformed since we decided to not guess releases ETA a while back.

 

[Amanwholive]

Of course Oddball2k have more information. He's one of the few testers like TotesNotThea, TheDevian and myself. We are pretty much the only ones still bothering with this thread.
I don't recall anyone saying there would be a december release. And if it happened it would be someone uninformed since we decided to not guess releases ETA a while back.

Not releasing Chap3 RS, which is more than ready, was a good call. There is still the old Chap4 here in the OP and it's a major annoyance imo.

About Chap4 RS, and I quote this from her last Patreon post:
"... the main sticking points are coming down to finalising and voicing the lewds. Not insurmountable for this month given this is a priority for me. "

So, expect a release of Chap4 RS with all the previous chapters within the month. I still have high hopes on that to get finally rid of the old Chap4 on the OP.. Enough confusion, shall we?!

Just 2 pages back, weird that a tester is uninformed and guessed a release, isnt it?

 

[moskyx]

Just 2 pages back, weird that a tester is uninformed and guessed a release, isnt it?

He was just stating what the dev had told us patrons back then and making an educated guess. She changed plans once again after that, so Oddball is not the one to blame here.

 

[Oddball2k]

High Hopes

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[Amanwholive]

He was just stating what the dev had told us patrons back then and making an educated guess. She changed plans once again after that, so Oddball is not the one to blame here.

Sure, when he makes a guess its an educated guess but when I am the one making it, taking in consideration devs past, I am just a troll. And who still believes in her word when 99% of her ETAs were wrong?

 

[reiterhaniwa]

Sure, when he makes a guess its an educated guess but when I am the one making it, taking in consideration devs past, I am just a troll. And who still believes in her word when 99% of her ETAs were wrong?

...what do you think the 'E' in 'ETA' actually stands for?

 

[STNeish]

...what do you think the 'E' in 'ETA' actually stands for?

Eventual, I think... at least in this case.

 

[Amanwholive]

...what do you think the 'E' in 'ETA' actually stands for?

Oh, here comes the smart guy. Yes, it means estimated, but let me tell you what estimaded means: roughly calculated; approximate.
So, its non applicable to many months or even years of delays. When you tell me something is going to be ready tomorrow but its done 3 months later you are not estimating anything, you are just lying on my face. And it is even worse when that exactly has happened many times before.

 

[reiterhaniwa]

Oh, here comes the smart guy. Yes, it means estimated, but let me tell you what estimaded means: roughly calculated; approximate.

So if you agree that estimates are by definition imprecise, why are you so aggrieved that they aren't "met"? Does it not follow that this is an inherent risk of making an estimate?

So, its non applicable to many months or even years of delays.

Please, explain that one for me.

Eventual, I think... at least in this case.

You know what they say - expect nothing and you'll never be disappointed!

 

[Amanwholive]

So if you agree that estimates are by definition imprecise, why are you so aggrieved that they aren't "met"? Does it not follow that this is an inherent risk of making an estimate?

Please, explain that one for me.




You know what they say - expect nothing and you'll never be disappointed!

If you failed a estimated release date by years and you still think that that estimation was correct to made, let me tell you that I am not the bad guy here. And I think my example was the best explanation to understand it, I dont know what do you want me to explain more.

 

[Oddball2k]

If you failed a estimated release date by years and you still think that that estimation was correct to made, let me tell you that I am not the bad guy here. And I think my example was the best explanation to understand it, I dont know what do you want me to explain more.

Aww, sorry.. We didn't know?!

No short-term memory, so cannot form new memories since at least a couple of years.. Must be hell, take care of yourself...

 

[Kagarus]

If you failed a estimated release date by years and you still think that that estimation was correct to made, let me tell you that I am not the bad guy here. And I think my example was the best explanation to understand it, I dont know what do you want me to explain more.

Damn, I actually nearly spat out my coffee.
You make estimates with your understanding of the facts at the time and the plans for the release.
Your understanding might be wrong (damn, creating a new monster actually takes way longer than expected), the facts might change (sudden changes in the health environment having drastic effects on productivity), plans might change (actually this system we thought of as really cool... isn't fun. Let's try something else).
Here's the thing: Estimated release dates being off months or years is... ridiculously common. You usually hear of them as "X delayed until Y!" headlines, and those are just the official, external estimated release dates, which because failing to meet them does carry some higher cost (marketing might need to be rescheduled, you might lose some investor confidence, etc) are usually only declared if you're rather confident in them; the ones you don't hear about - internal release date targets - are missed even more routinely.
That's true from the largest AAA games over small indie teams to single-developer hobby projects.
So no, you're not the bad guy here, just someone who's seems ignorant about game development?

But yes, you should wait and see - not because of any insinuations that the game actually secretly doesn't exist, but because what other options are there? It's not like you can rush out and PREORDER NOW! Testers can test, of course, but that's not the target audience of that suggestion - but what can the others do except some form of wait? Wait while watching the thread, wait while expecting or not expecting to see chapter 5 pop up on the latest updates, wait while drawing fanart or wait while engaging in some sort of low-level flame war insisting that it's all a scam.