Ren'Py Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[Nottravis]

Long-time lurker that is using my first post to say:

1) This game is looking really good already - keep up the amazing work
2) I hope you won't shy away from exploring darker content. I find the promised option of being able to effectively be the 'villain' of the story most intruiging

Thank you You're most kind, and I feel pretty humbled you used your first post in respect of my game.

And no, definitely not shying away from the darker paths at all.

The player can, if they wish, play very darkly indeed.....

...in fact I'd go so far as to say that should the player choose to ( and my game is all about choices) I honestly can't think of another game as dark as this one can be.

That said of course, it can also be played as something light and fluffy. It's at the end of the day up to the player

 

[Rythan25]

I did pretty bad in my playthrough for it as well, the only one i purposely missed and could have gone back to get the scene was the "male humiliation" by the lesbian looking chick... but as thats not my thing I chose to skip/deny it... I was pretty bitter that I have no idea what I could have done to get the asian girl to do something sexual...or whatever the ensign girl focus could have been...

 

[SecretSal]

@Rythan25 - It's a fine balance of choices which gets you to the scene, some of which are not very obvious at the outset. Although...

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[Nottravis]

I did pretty bad in my playthrough for it as well, the only one i purposely missed and could have gone back to get the scene was the "male humiliation" by the lesbian looking chick... but as thats not my thing I chose to skip/deny it... I was pretty bitter that I have no idea what I could have done to get the asian girl to do something sexual...or whatever the ensign girl focus could have been...

You'll forgive me for not providing a walkthrough. Largely as the game is still new and many people have yet to play it.

However, ultimately in this game, and unlike many others, choices matter. We're not talking about a variation of a scene etc. Some of the stuff underpinning this is both complex and deliberately difficult. Just like real life.

That said, I also ensure there are many ways to gain access or backtrack from key path decisions. Anything missed in Chapter One 're these the player gets a second chance at in the next chapter.

 

[TheDevian]

I see now why you seem to have a somewhat skewed perspective about the size of average penises. ;P

It also doesn't help that the first half of my life I was told that 6-6.5" was average.

 

[quinfax]

It also doesn't help that the first half of my life I was told that 6-6.5" was average.

 

[tontoman]

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As far as the connection to being the best, it's a sex game, so the hero should have the best dick, and be the best at sex (or learn to be by the end if it's that kind of game). I don't know about anyone else, but for me, I enjoy flipping the script on the femdom, and making her bow to you. Being one of the best is part of that, you can't be the hero of a sex game if you can't please all of the ladies all of the time.

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Is it really femdom (femdom game/path) anymore then? Personally I'd classify it as what content is most common in that path. So if it starts out Fdom but quickly switches to not for the next 90% it isn't, not a judgement just a classification.

It's a pet peeve of mine as you get games with labels like that, and it lasts all of ten seconds and then goes with the Mdom harem mailstream. But man you can hear the screams if you take a Mdom harem style game and throw some Fdom in. The forum posts in Big Brother when the sis flipped the relationship...omg.

Which really kinda sucks as I like 'game' in my porn games and playing a system that has you walking a line between the two (or not if you just want one or the other) is great, as personally I like both (plus the game part). But lots of the playerbase seems pretty binary in that with low tolerance (or at least the vocal ones, which I guess is the usual). So the more usual is the well forcasted path splits (and even then some complain) where you can pretty much guess what you're getting into. Which is still fun, just takes some of the surprise out of it.

BTW, I guess the best dick for hero applies only if the women in question isn't batting for the other team as it were heh.

 

[TheDevian]

Is it really femdom (femdom game/path) anymore then? Personally I'd classify it as what content is most common in that path. So if it starts out Fdom but quickly switches to not for the next 90% it isn't, not a judgement just a classification.

It's a pet peeve of mine as you get games with labels like that, and it lasts all of ten seconds and then goes with the Mdom harem mailstream. But man you can hear the screams if you take a Mdom harem style game and throw some Fdom in. The forum posts in Big Brother when the sis flipped the relationship...omg.

Which really kinda sucks as I like 'game' in my porn games and playing a system that has you walking a line between the two (or not if you just want one or the other) is great, as personally I like both (plus the game part). But lots of the playerbase seems pretty binary in that with low tolerance (or at least the vocal ones, which I guess is the usual). So the more usual is the well forcasted path splits (and even then some complain) where you can pretty much guess what you're getting into. Which is still fun, just takes some of the surprise out of it.

BTW, I guess the best dick for hero applies only if the women in question isn't batting for the other team as it were heh.

As I was telling Nottravis, I like for there to be both options, but yeah, too many games go too linear. This one seems to have 2-3 for each girl, but we will have to see how it plays out. The only time something like femdom, or any other kink I don't like, bothers me is when it is unavoidable (or worse, badly written). I hope for the people who do like it, that there is a path with it, but at the same time, I am also looking forward to dominating her right back. If there is an option to do both in one run (switch back and forth based on your mood), I can go for that too...

With Big Brother, it kind of went back and forth, as the brother and sister keep trying to assert their dominance, my biggest issue with that was her final flip was just so badly done, as doing so actively hurt her and her situation, but she was not programmed to be aware of it, or how much worse it would hurt her if she went through with her threat. ...Well that and the that fact that it was abandoned before he could flip it back on her, or at least come to an understanding of some kind.

Luckily we don't have any one so far that bats for the other team in this game, we just have Chris, who swings both ways.

 

[Nottravis]

Is it really femdom (femdom game/path) anymore then? Personally I'd classify it as what content is most common in that path. So if it starts out Fdom but quickly switches to not for the next 90% it isn't, not a judgement just a classification.

It's a pet peeve of mine as you get games with labels like that, and it lasts all of ten seconds and then goes with the Mdom harem mailstream. But man you can hear the screams if you take a Mdom harem style game and throw some Fdom in. The forum posts in Big Brother when the sis flipped the relationship...omg.

Which really kinda sucks as I like 'game' in my porn games and playing a system that has you walking a line between the two (or not if you just want one or the other) is great, as personally I like both (plus the game part). But lots of the playerbase seems pretty binary in that with low tolerance (or at least the vocal ones, which I guess is the usual). So the more usual is the well forcasted path splits (and even then some complain) where you can pretty much guess what you're getting into. Which is still fun, just takes some of the surprise out of it.

BTW, I guess the best dick for hero applies only if the women in question isn't batting for the other team as it were heh.

I hope you'll forgive me if I don't say too much as I don't wish to spoil anything.

But I hear you on the femdomme complaints. You should see some of the earlier remarks on this thread...

All I will say is that for those after a femdomme experience it's very much here, for those who aren't it isn't and for those looking to walk that interesting and dangerous game down the middle...Well they, especially, won't be disappointed...

 

[Nottravis]

As I was telling Nottravis, I like for there to be both options, but yeah, too many games go too linear. This one seems to have 2-3 for each girl, but we will have to see how it plays out. The only time something like femdom, or any other kink I don't like, bothers me is when it is unavoidable (or worse, badly written). I hope for the people who do like it, that there is a path with it, but at the same time, I am also looking forward to dominating her right back. If there is an option to do both in one run (switch back and forth based on your mood), I can go for that too...

With Big Brother, it kind of went back and forth, as the brother and sister keep trying to assert their dominance, my biggest issue with that was her final flip was just so badly done, as doing so actively hurt her and her situation, but she was not programmed to be aware of it, or how much worse it would hurt her if she went through with her threat. ...Well that and the that fact that it was abandoned before he could flip it back on her, or at least come to an understanding of some kind.

Luckily we don't have any one so far that bats for the other team in this game, we just have Chris, who swings both ways.

Oh God...BB's domme stuff was...*shudders*. I don't really like criticising other games but that....that was badly written in terms of motivation, realism and ..urgh. Everything. I'd be ashamed to put it out.

Anyhoo! Just trust me when I say it's all about choices and how the characters react to those. I'm certain some of my content most players will never see, as it takes real work to get. But equally I'm happy with that as I'm trying to make a real game and something very different from the norm.

I want to surprise you chaps; I want you to make some tricky choices; I want you, at times, to go "do I really want to do that?" when faced with dilemmas; I want to excite, titilate and thrill you - and most of all I want you to have a bloody good time and the experience -you- want to have.


Of course platitudes like this mean nothing. The proof is in the pudding. But let's see what type of dessert I make shall we?

 

[TheDevian]

Oh God...BB's domme stuff was...*shudders*. I don't really like criticising other games but that....that was badly written in terms of motivation, realism and ..urgh. Everything. I'd be ashamed to put it out.

Anyhoo! Just trust me when I say it's all about choices and how the characters react to those. I'm certain some of my content most players will never see, as it takes real work to get. But equally I'm happy with that as I'm trying to make a real game and something very different from the norm.

I want to surprise you chaps; I want you to make some tricky choices; I want you, at times, to go "do I really want to do that?" when faced with dilemmas; I want to excite, titilate and thrill you - and most of all I want you to have a bloody good time and the experience -you- want to have.


Of course platitudes like this mean nothing. The proof is in the pudding. But let's see what type of dessert I make shall we?

Yeah, it's too bad too, the art in that game was just amazing and it was well designed in a lot of ways, it had such potential.

Nice. I am sure we look forward to seeing what you have in mind when you get there.

 

[Akamari]

Don'tgettoohyped, don'tgettoohyped, don'tgettoohyped...

I might even end up breaking my rule of "stick to yer damn choices!" I apply for branching VN's, and do ton of replays. (Usually I just check the pics to see all the candy). Actually, I've already broken it and that's just Chapter 1 haha.

 

[Nottravis]

Don'tgettoohyped, don'tgettoohyped, don'tgettoohyped...

I might even end up breaking my rule of "stick to yer damn choices!" I apply for branching VN's, and do ton of replays. (Usually I just check the pics to see all the candy). Actually, I've already broken it and that's just Chapter 1 haha.

*laughs* Then I'm doing my job right then

 

[Nottravis]

Ooohhh! Whilst we're talking about paths and choices? Can I ask you guys what's been your favourite route so far and why?

(We can probably exclude getting shot by Annie )

 

[Mister_M]

Can I ask you guys what's been your favourite route so far and why?

Number 1 is Chris, I liked her dominant attitude and teasing. I feel a lot of potential here and that makes her exciting.
Number 2 is Annie, but only after 3rd playthrough when I focused on her character and she hugged MC. Seems like a more neutral choice, while still being on top so that route seems most unpredictable, which is nice.
Didn't care about Sarah though, sorry.

 

[supermanz95]

Ooohhh! Whilst we're talking about paths and choices? Can I ask you guys what's been your favourite route so far and why?

(We can probably exclude getting shot by Annie )

My favorite route was the one where I got to go on space submarine and talk to woman about video games while the other said I will be wearing a helmet outside of space walking.

 

[Akamari]

Ooohhh! Whilst we're talking about paths and choices? Can I ask you guys what's been your favourite route so far and why?

I play a goody guy with friendly approach to his crewmates who has hots for Annie, but keeps other options open (after spending years in isolation on a 21st century looking Earth with people of impossibly shallow characters he is thrilled to find interesting girls... okay, not canon, but I could't help it).

I still can't quite decide (for my main playthrough) whether I want to go with Annie's approach and being the one who saves the day (which was my first choice) or Chris' approach (that I thought was rather suicidal at first) which brought very hot times with Annie; of which my frozen in time character still keeps thinking about. (She really has that twinkle!)

 

[tontoman]

I hope you'll forgive me if I don't say too much as I don't wish to spoil anything.

But I hear you on the femdomme complaints. You should see some of the earlier remarks on this thread...

All I will say is that for those after a femdomme experience it's very much here, for those who aren't it isn't and for those looking to walk that interesting and dangerous game down the middle...Well they, especially, won't be disappointed...

Oh no that's fine. Wasn't really looking for any spoilers at all, it was just general banter about the topic as was a nice, rare and interesting talk on stuff and mechanics *gasp*. But from what you say, looking foward to it even more.
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More side banter thoughts.

Yeah, Cure my Addiction was another. Had some Fdom (even the sad throw some leather on it type) and some actual game mechanics. But even with that being easily avoidable and the Fdom char to go with it, dev had to put in a hard code no Fdom switch in the game. And then last update looks like going to be written totallyout.
Pity as I loved the models in it. Mixes of size, and natural, another rarity. The area setup was perfect for gamefing the relationships. Emily would have made a powerful switch (solid build heh), and Chloe a fun one in the contest of wills (and that as a hard NOPE when it came up). Pity as cute, petite doms (or just dom situations) I also find neat due to the juxtaposition of feelings, makes me miss the one I knew.

 

[Rythan25]

Yeah, it's too bad too, the art in that game was just amazing and it was well designed in a lot of ways, it had such potential.

Nice. I am sure we look forward to seeing what you have in mind when you get there.

since that game seemed to end before any real sex happened with anyone other than Alice, can you clarify which sister is the one that flipped ? if it was Lisa, I could see the uproar as it didnt suit her to turn into that... however was that part of the canon game, or part of the expanded fan mods others made ? (seduction, shopping days, photoshoot, etc).

As for this game, as long as it has options for which content you want to pursue, I'll be ok with that... for example if the short hair girl is strictly a femdom, and her thing is making the MC a sissy... I can just skip her content, and pursue hopefully one of the other females that has a different kink like lets say the Asian likes watersport (beeing peed on), and the blonde bubble ensign is into roleplay, I would purse both of those. (not super crazy about pee, but i can deal with it as long as its not to gross) watching the MC being sissified however is just lame to me... (similar to how I dont like super violent maledom on females i.e punching and physically hurting, leaving marks).

 

[TheDevian]

Ooohhh! Whilst we're talking about paths and choices? Can I ask you guys what's been your favourite route so far and why?

(We can probably exclude getting shot by Annie )

I should count myself lucky to have missed that one so far.

Well, so far I have only done the casual one beyond meeting everyone (though that will change soon), Like others, I enjoyed the gaming conversation (saw that pun coming, but I was unable to block your shtyle), and watching her getting so passionate about the weapons systems was cute. Odd that the blond is the one I like the best again when I dislike blondes, but that shows she is well done.

since that game seemed to end before any real sex happened with anyone other than Alice, can you clarify which sister is the one that flipped ? if it was Lisa, I could see the uproar as it didnt suit her to turn into that... however was that part of the canon game, or part of the expanded fan mods others made ? (seduction, shopping days, photoshoot, etc).

As for this game, as long as it has options for which content you want to pursue, I'll be ok with that... for example if the short hair girl is strictly a femdom, and her thing is making the MC a sissy... I can just skip her content, and pursue hopefully one of the other females that has a different kink like lets say the Asian likes watersport (beeing peed on), and the blonde bubble ensign is into roleplay, I would purse both of those. (not super crazy about pee, but i can deal with it as long as its not to gross) watching the MC being sissified however is just lame to me... (similar to how I dont like super violent maledom on females i.e punching and physically hurting, leaving marks).

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Yeah, I don't really like actual violence, but most forms of humiliation I am okay with, if the girl is into that.