Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[Ripe]

True, although I did find that a bit strange. Just as in the US Navy and US Marine Corps you go have swimming as part of your boot camp, I would have assumed the same from this Navy. I.e. I would assume that they actually trained for spacewalks (or at least something as basic as using magnetic boots in microgravity) as part of their basic training / boot camp.

Since I don't have the entire lore of the H5 universe at hand I can't say whether that is the case or not. Even if it weren't the case, he had Annie to walk him through it, and generally speaking, when you give a grunt a pair of sticky boots and tell him "walk on the outside of the ship to save the pretty girls (and yourself) from burning up," that grunt will figure it out. Especially if there's a chance of some kind of hero's reward waiting at the end.

Yeah, swimming is part of boot camp, but spacewalk would be equivalent of diving. I don't know if diving is part of boot camp, but I also find it weird that as engineer working on space ship he didn't get any spacewalk training. Then again, he does said he's ground engineer and part of infantry so maybe that is why he didn't get any training.

You're right about him figuring it out in this situation... especially with potential for some kind of reward from girls afterwards.

 

[Ripe]

Fine, I take it back (in one specific scenario). I thought you need to complain about the crew to get into this situation, but it seems declining the boxing offer alone is enough.

Just replayed Chapter 1 and decided to pressure Chris on why Harris left... never even got a chance to engage in small talk or discuss boxing with her (let alone accept or decline sparring) and yet, MC get an option to choose what to do.

 

[Akamari]

Right, I was talking about that situation.

Well, I wasn't sure. It seemed to me like you started talking in general all of a sudden.

Yeah, swimming is part of boot camp, but spacewalk would be equivalent of diving. I don't know if diving is part of boot camp, but I also find it weird that as engineer working on space ship he didn't get any spacewalk training. Then again, he does said he's ground engineer and part of infantry so maybe that is why he didn't get any training.

Yep. I think this is a highly specialized kind of maintenance that only select few engineers on board the Intrepid do. It makes sense to me why he wouldn't get any training in something that is very different from his position. I mean he works on a starship, but he probably doesn't work ON a starship.

Just replayed Chapter 1 and decided to pressure Chris on why Harris left... never even got a chance to engage in small talk or discuss boxing with her (let alone accept or decline sparring) and yet, MC get an option to choose what to do.

It's one of the things I discovered yesterday. I think she actually respects when you demand the answer because it shows to her that you are focused on the mission. If you decline boxing and do this, you'll get the choice.

If you just say hi to her and then don't ask anything, she'll give you the choice as well. Basically, at the start she respects you enough to consider your opinion.

Oh and thanks for this discussion. As much as we tend to disagree on things, it helped me find some very interesting pieces of the puzzle that I have missed in Chapter 1.

 

[Nottravis]

Morning boys


It's all actually less about the MC's choices - but about Chadwick's...and she doesn't really have any.

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Hope that makes things a bit clearer

Edit. You of course may have made your decision on entirely different basis to how Chris -thinks- you made it of course

 

[Ripe]

Morning boys


It's all actually less about the MC's choices - but about Chadwick's...and she doesn't really have any.

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Hope that makes things a bit clearer

Yes it does.

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[somebodynobody]

@Nottravis I was taking a look at chapter 1 again, I used unren (this pulls all the files out of game), it showed the images file folders, I see 3 images of Annie I never saw in all my playthroughs, but what I wanted to mention is that the folder for Hangar is named Hanger, as is one image in that folder. I thought I should mention it just in case it causes problems in the future chapters.

 

[Nottravis]

@Nottravis I was taking a look at chapter 1 again, I used unren (this pulls all the files out of game), it showed the images file folders, I see 3 images of Annie I never saw in all my playthroughs, but what I wanted to mention is that the folder for Hangar is named Hanger, as is one image in that folder. I thought I should mention it just in case it causes problems in the future chapters.

Thankees. Thankfully the "Hangar/Hanger" folder shouldn't cause any problems as the folder reference isn't called in the coding but I'll add it to my tidy up list I 'll double check that image reference tho. (Edit. Double checked. We're fine as it's misspelled in the code too!)

And, aye, I know the three images you mean Very, very, hard to trigger if I recall. Not important of course, but nice for someone perhaps when they play through the completed game again one day and go "Wtf...". I might make that small scene a tad easier to activate however when I remaster.

 

[Akamari]

Morning boys


It's all actually less about the MC's choices - but about Chadwick's...and she doesn't really have any.

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Hope that makes things a bit clearer

Edit. You of course may have made your decision on entirely different basis to how Chris -thinks- you made it of course

Can I just say it was lovely to read?

If I was doing the investigation (while having a CVR or its alternative at disposal) in a scenario where the Vanguard crashed with her making the call of not giving the MC the call to try and fix a potentially deadly malfunction, I would cite flight commander's unwillingness to try to use all available options at her disposal to mitigate the risk as a minor contributing factor.

However, she's only human and it's a tough call to make in a highly irregular situation. I don't assume asking an untrained passenger to put himself at risk was covered in her training, nor that it should be.

 

[Nottravis]

Can I just say it was lovely to read?

If I was doing the investigation (while having a CVR or its alternative at disposal) in a scenario where the Vanguard crashed with her making the call of not giving the MC the call to try and fix a potentially deadly malfunction, I would cite flight commander's unwillingness to try to use all available options at her disposal to mitigate the risk as a minor contributing factor.

However, she's only human and it's a tough call to make in a highly irregular situation. I don't assume asking an untrained passenger to put himself at risk was covered in her training, nor that it should be.

You're welcome

Nobody is perfect and neither are my characters. They'll behave rationally within the confines of their own drives of course. But none of them are Mary or John Sues.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

You're welcome

Nobody is perfect and neither are my characters. They'll behave rationally within the confines of their own drives of course. But none of them are Mary or John Sues.

Someone in the story is perfect

 

[frap]

Someone in the story is perfect

Come now, they're all perfect, in their imperfect ways.

Now... since I have the bigger paycheck, how do I convince Annie to quit and marry me? I mean, she has it all:

• Snarky and warped sense of humor (or should I say, humour since this is written across the pond)
• Quick wit and obvious intelligence
• Mechanical ability (I love strong women who know how to do things and aren't afraid of work)
• Likely to call me out when I'm being an ass (if your partner doesn't do that, you're in the wrong relationship)
• I'd be able to talk about my work day and she'd understand what I'm talking about (fellow engineer) <- Not required, but a definite bonus*

If I needed to, I could probably come up with a similar list for the others** as well, once I get myself into the right MC headspace (oooh, new nerdcore rapper name there - MC Headspace, or MC Main Character... who goes by MC MC).

* IRL - when I talk to my wife about my work day, and try to explain what I've done she politely nods and smiles, and asks "is that a good thing?" If I answer in the affirmative she says "I'm happy for you." If not she says "I'm sorry to hear that."

**Excepting Trisha - from what I've seen of her, she's bad news just looking for a front page.

 

[Nottravis]

Come now, they're all perfect, in their imperfect ways.

Now... since I have the bigger paycheck, how do I convince Annie to quit and marry me? I mean, she has it all:

• Snarky and warped sense of humor (or should I say, humour since this is written across the pond)
• Quick wit and obvious intelligence
• Mechanical ability (I love strong women who know how to do things and aren't afraid of work)
• Likely to call me out when I'm being an ass (if your partner doesn't do that, you're in the wrong relationship)
• I'd be able to talk about my work day and she'd understand what I'm talking about (fellow engineer) <- Not required, but a definite bonus*

If I needed to, I could probably come up with a similar list for the others** as well, once I get myself into the right MC headspace (oooh, new nerdcore rapper name there - MC Headspace, or MC Main Character... who goes by MC MC).

* IRL - when I talk to my wife about my work day, and try to explain what I've done she politely nods and smiles, and asks "is that a good thing?" If I answer in the affirmative she says "I'm happy for you." If not she says "I'm sorry to hear that."

**Excepting Trisha - from what I've seen of her, she's bad news just looking for a front page.

I'm not saying.

But I will say this much. If it's what you really want you can end up as a perm couple by the end of the game with one of four out of the ten girls...

And Trisha? Bad news? Surely not...

 

[Akamari]

Come now, they're all perfect, in their imperfect ways.

Now... since I have the bigger paycheck, how do I convince Annie to quit and marry me? I mean, she has it all:

• Snarky and warped sense of humor (or should I say, humour since this is written across the pond)
• Quick wit and obvious intelligence
• Mechanical ability (I love strong women who know how to do things and aren't afraid of work)
• Likely to call me out when I'm being an ass (if your partner doesn't do that, you're in the wrong relationship)
• I'd be able to talk about my work day and she'd understand what I'm talking about (fellow engineer) <- Not required, but a definite bonus*

If I needed to, I could probably come up with a similar list for the others** as well, once I get myself into the right MC headspace (oooh, new nerdcore rapper name there - MC Headspace, or MC Main Character... who goes by MC MC).

I agree. If I were to make a list of the top 10 girls of all the visual novels I've played, all three of them would made it in (with Annie scoring the highest ) and I pretty much always only pick one girl a game.

 

[Akamari]

If it's what you really want you can end up as a perm couple by the end of the game with one of four out of the ten girls...

I feel like I just failed a logic check. Is it 4 out of 10 or 1/4 of 10?

 

[frap]

I feel like I just failed a logic check. Is it 4 out of 10 or 1/4 of 10?

I think what she's saying is:

There are 10 ladies the MC can pursue...
Of those, 4 can lead to a permanent relationship...
But you can only form a permanent relationship with one in any play-through.

If you do lots of play-throughs, and see each as it's own parallel universe, there are four universes in which the MC can end up in a permanent situation with a different woman.

 

[frap]

And Trisha? Bad news? Surely not...

From my own RL experiences (when I was younger and dumber) - a married woman throwing herself at you (and not avoiding the situation like the plague) leads to anything from heartbreak to a pool cue upside the head. (Those things hurt, and I deserved it - stupidity should be painful. He got a divorce and we ended up friends though, so there's that.)

 

[Akamari]

I think what she's saying is:

There are 10 ladies the MC can pursue...
Of those, 4 can lead to a permanent relationship...
But you can only form a permanent relationship with one in any play-through.

If you do lots of play-throughs, and see each as it's own parallel universe, there are four universes in which the MC can end up in a permanent situation with a different woman.

Thanks, that makes sense. More than one permanent relationship per playthrough idea didn't cross my mind, cause that's rather BS.

 

[Sulring Durgul]

I'm not saying.
But I will say this much. If it's what you really want you can end up as a perm couple by the end of the game with one of four out of the ten girls...

Since I'm pretty sure we already met 3 of the romanceable ladies (please tell me Chris can be wooed), the question is now: "which female character that we haven't met yet will possibly be our one and only?"
Amanda?
Dianne?
McGruder?
Harris?
Actual?
Becca? (just joking!)

 

[Akamari]

Since I'm pretty sure we already met 3 of the romanceable ladies (please tell me Chris can be wooed), the question is now: "which female character that we haven't met yet will possibly be our one and only?"
Amanda?
Dianne?
McGruder?
Harris?
Actual?
Becca? (just joking!)

Mia!

 

[Sulring Durgul]

Mia!

Oh, of course! Silly me! How could I ever forget Mia?