Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

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Nottravis said:
Slider, thank you for this and my apologies for the delay in getting back to you due to being away for a few days. But before I respond there are two things I'd like to say.

Firstly, thank you for taking the time to make such a constructive set of points. It's appreciated.

Secondly, and more importantly, you say that this thread is quite intimidating - and I dare say you're right. You knew, for you're an intelligent man, that offering a critique of the thread behaviour could well result in some negative comments and yet you still did it. For sure, you did it in a polite and constructive manner, but we all know full well how some people on other threads can react. Yet despite that, you did it anyway. You could have kept silent - yet you didn't. That took some degree of courage and for that I admire you. Thank you.

As to the point itself, it's a tricky one. Yes, it does veer off to the chatty sometimes and I'll confess I'm as much to blame for that as anyone. Indeed, I suspect the chatty nature of the thread is largely down to me for the tone is set at the top, no?

My take on it though is threefold.

Firstly, chattiness aside, this is the best place for me to tap into feedback into what is and isn't working with H5. I don't mean plot points etc for those are set. But patreon and discord would only really let me see what people who liked the game thought. Now that's all very nice of course, but what about peeps who didn't like it? Why? Mebbe, for this is my first game, I'm doing something wrong? Also with the user base of these pirate scamps it also allows me to see (for I am a tiny dev on her own) how things such as the easter egg mechanic works. I'll confess I thought the Trisha one was easy - I was wrong. So from a perspective of tapping into the widest possible user base it's fantastically useful.

You make a valid point in respect of discord tho. The trouble is I just don't like it. It has that "text" message feel about it and having recently joined another discord channel I have to say it's not a comms method I like. It has that "reply now" instant feel to it which I just wouldn't be able to stay on top of especially given the size of my little game. Someone later in this thread remarked that this felt like an old school forum where one was using an "email" format to make points and I concur. That format I can handle, being able to salt and pepper responses or, indeed like this one, reply at length as required. This does not negate your point however, it merely reflects my own preference and ability to be able to respond.

But none of that addresses the traffic issue. I took some time yesterday travelling back to have a peek at some other threads of similar size. I wasn't impressed. The content was largely "Update?"; "Save Plz"; "Dev is shit"; "Dev is great!"; "Who's best girl?"; "How do I fuck...". No. No thanks. So, yes, this thread is intimidating, on that I agree. But it's also good humoured, informative, (incredibly when Ava behaves herself it even largely sticks to the game!) and I like to feel welcoming. If I spot a new player/poster I do my best to make them feel welcome and, although perhaps limited in it's effectiveness, I do try to mitigate the issue as best as I can.

So, is this a perfect thread? No. Of course not. But it's, in my opinion now of course, the best thread on the forum for both players and dev.

Having said that tho, your point has some validity and I will think on. For example...
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Thank you so much for taking the time to make your point known. It really is appreciated and, indeed from my perspective, admired.

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Well, thanks in turn to you for this replay! As perfectly illustrated by this post and any other one that addressed mine, it is true that the spirit of this thread is exceptionally cordial and polite. You are too kind!

In regards of the advantages that you mention, it's true they are there. I guess the easy-going nature of the thread encourages its users to, both consciously and unconsciously, give a lot of information about how they feel about every tidbit of the game, be it characters, plot, tone... and that's something gratifying and very useful for a dev.

While I still think there are people who will feel a tad baffled by the speed and oftentimes goofiness of this thread, the truth is that if they take the faith leap and participate in it, chances are they'll feel very welcome and get help in case it's needed.

All in all, any style of communication has its advantages and disadvantages and although it's debatable which is more suitable for this format, what we know for sure is that what's going one in this thread is something 100% genuine and one of a kind.:)
 
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hameleona said:
Honestly I thought my job was going to be what chiefs an LTs usually do - pick an otherwise capable individual, who has a tendency to crew up, nurture them and help them achieve thier potential. Or maybe I'm just way to big of a fan of Scotty and Har... Herkens? Harcness? (Yeah, I cant spell) from the Honor Harrington series. :D
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I think you are still pretty close to what you'll have to do.

Her ditzy nature has put her career in jeopardy going by her file so you will have to help her reach her potential as you say.

You weren't exactly wrong in your post about Sarah I just wanted to say she isn't exactly dumb but she is a bit of an accident waiting to happen.
 
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Ok, a quick read through 5 pages this morning before I head out for a few hours...

Nottravis said:
Good point, well made.

We're totes innocent and never say or do anything that is lewd or verging on the pornographic *nods sagely*

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Avaron1974 said:
I am willing to share mine.

I'm always ready to let you stroke my pussy.







I have 6, so it depends what kind you are looking for. Misty will probably be bestest, she's pure white, proper cutesy.
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Avaron1974 said:
Yeah, I mean just look at us, we have the innocent thing down to a T.

Sure, someone with a dirty mind could possibly twist some of our innocent words into something disgraceful but nothing we'd say ourselves.

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I know, right? You two innocently talk about petting pussies, showers making you wet, and pancake breakfasts in bed being sticky and messy. Nothing perverted in any of that. *is wearing rose-tinted saintly glasses* ;)

btw - my pussy is a Norwegian Forest Cat, and he's a total attention slut. :)

Nottravis said:
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I do enjoy reading you guys theories. But obvs, I'll never confirm/deny anything. Theories are purely for you chaps :)

Acebases piece of work there. So, despite what I just said above I will tell you this after that much effort.

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The words she used in particular order:
  • Ophion
    [*]is
    [*]not
    [*]but
    [*]Trisha
    [*]and

Akamari said:
Not fruitless at all. I play my main playthroughs immersively weighing every option and never rolling back on a choice. These first playthroughs where choices matter are those that matter the most to me.

I only play all the other paths only because of the brilliance of your writing (and rendering).:)
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Hmm - I do something similar: I devote 1 playthrough for each love interest as a straight "the way I would do it" playthrough. And with a game like H5, a second for straight playthroughs as I wouldn't do it (bad LT for example.) After I've completed all those I start crawling down all the weird paths to see what I missed. Admits to sometimes making a spreadsheet to track all available choices and which ones I took, and what kind of ending it got.

Avaron1974 said:
Oh, hunni, I never play against Notty. When we go it's always co op and we both win.
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See, that's what family does - especially when it's chosen family. I don't see you two as evil temptresses, I see you as playful sisters, teasing each other, and teasing the rest of us charming, caring uncles and aunties.

Avaron1974 said:
I've nearly done that a few times.

You ever get like that when you've talked to someone for so long and you nearly pick up their mannerisms?

I've had to stop myself typing like that a few times now.

I'll end up turning into mini Notty.
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I've spent so much time chatting with Brits that I often finding myself typing and saying thing in a British rather than US manner. At work the other day I asked someone, "So, you're sat there watching a show and not getting any work done?" The USAian way to say that would have been "So, you're sitting there watching a show..." It's a minor thing, but I still get looks.


Nottravis said:
AH the next one!

*is doing it -very- differently*

I should really set up a separate thread for the SP game, but far too soon to be talking about it really *is worried someone will steal her -very- aces ideas!*
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Already excited for that one as well!


Nottravis said:
But you have to remember that I had no idea people would even like it! XD

No shower peeking or anything! Long words, a plot! I mean, who would play that! ;)
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:unsure: Probs those same types who don't make a habit of dropping into forums with "save, plz" - at least for the majority of who will play it.

Nottravis said:
Poor Kelly my arse. She was being a complete git!
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She was, and we're going to have a long talk about that, I assure you. That is not how officers of the fleet behave, and it is definitely not how Playerlastnames behave. :mad:
 
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