Goblin Baily: DILF

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Don't let yourself be fooled there. My wife weighs in at slightly more than a 100 lbs and is about 5'4.
And yet she's a master shot w/ her Barrett, no doubt about it. Hilarious pics btw when she hefts a 107 :D
Does she shoot standing up and one handed?
We are ignoring some possible explanation... The gun could be made of light alloys, the gunner could've trained to exert more strength without bulking up. There's also the possibility of cybernetic augments,
I'm more concerned with what she's shooting at
 

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We are ignoring some possible explanation... The gun could be made of light alloys, the gunner could've trained to exert more strength without bulking up. There's also the possibility of cybernetic augments,
I'm more concerned with what she's shooting at
Roger your last.

As for skeletal support there's a lot of stuff in the pipeline at the mo' so wouldn't dare try to imagine what kinda stuff we'll be using in the future.
 

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I didn't say that - I only said not to let yourself be fooled by appearances. Used to know a guy weighing in at about 230 lbs all muscles standing 6'11 who couldn't shoot a shotgun worth shit.
True that. I'm 6'2 and 210 pounds, and a terrible shot.
What I meant about Notty's model is that her arms should show more strain from handling such weapon. But Kuko also makes an excellent point.
I'll shut up now before I shoot myself in the foot. ;)
 

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There's one thing that keeps me from sleeping. And strangely it's not the hottie with a minigun. Heavy Five was the codename assigned to the intrepid for one day. Yet it was important enough to be used as the game's title. My gut is telling me that somethings went wrong or Notty is pulling an Umberto Eco's name of the rose
 

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I mean she probs doesn't look like you if we play the odds...but if she does and you're ok with it - then I am too :) Thanks.

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We are ignoring some possible explanation... The gun could be made of light alloys, the gunner could've trained to exert more strength without bulking up. There's also the possibility of cybernetic augments,
I'm more concerned with what she's shooting at
First of all, the character looks really nice, and I imagine even better when fully tuned up. Secondly, I have to say that even with the potential of extremely potent augments, it does look quite unrealistic and silly. Even if the gun was made of really light alloys, that would more or less just be worse. As we all know Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space, and per his third law for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The recoil is pushing the minigun back hard. If the minigun was heavy, then it would take more force to push it backwards, alleviating some of the recoil though not by too much. If the minigun was light, the recoil would push it back even harder. I'd personally just have her use the minigun with two hands, or with some type of harness in order to make it look better.
 

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First of all, the character looks really nice, and I imagine even better when fully tuned up. Secondly, I have to say that even with the potential of extremely potent augments, it does look quite unrealistic and silly. Even if the gun was made of really light alloys, that would more or less just be worse. As we all know Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space, and per his third law for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The recoil is pushing the minigun back hard. If the minigun was heavy, then it would take more force to push it backwards, alleviating some of the recoil though not by too much. If the minigun was light, the recoil would push it back even harder. I'd personally just have her use the minigun with two hands, or with some type of harness in order to make it look better.
If we're talking science and space exploration, your argument loses it's full power. If travel beyond the solar system is possible, then nothing stops that gun from having a recoil nullifier built inside
 

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To be honest I was more worried that there was a character coming in later that might resemble a player (to wit, you of course in this instance!) - and that could have ended up being really weird for them. I don't mind making people feel uncomfortable by making them face the consequences of their in game actions - but would hate to make anyone feel awkward with my design decisions. With her not being fully fleshed out I can easily change her. Let me know.

I mean running her down against that checklist of attributes you gave...they were really bloody close.
I imagine some game has that as a Patreon tier- for $X, you get to be a background character! For $Y, you get a speaking role! For $Z, you are a romantic option in the game!
 

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Morning scamps,

Cute and dirty! That's my kind of girl.
She looks a bit skinny to handle heavy weaponry, though. A tad more in the biceps department would probably help.
True that. I'm 6'2 and 210 pounds, and a terrible shot.
What I meant about Notty's model is that her arms should show more strain from handling such weapon. But Kuko also makes an excellent point.
I'll shut up now before I shoot myself in the foot. ;)
First of all, the character looks really nice, and I imagine even better when fully tuned up. Secondly, I have to say that even with the potential of extremely potent augments, it does look quite unrealistic and silly. Even if the gun was made of really light alloys, that would more or less just be worse. As we all know Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space, and per his third law for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The recoil is pushing the minigun back hard. If the minigun was heavy, then it would take more force to push it backwards, alleviating some of the recoil though not by too much. If the minigun was light, the recoil would push it back even harder. I'd personally just have her use the minigun with two hands, or with some type of harness in order to make it look better.
Ooooh, I am glad you like her - thanks.

Alrighties, well if you chaps are going to start showing some thought on this the least I can do is a give a reply :)

Firstly, she was a concept test. One of the -hard- lessons I've learned is that you can't trust models to behave. So it's all well and good making a nice model but unless you test them by throwing them into scenes you can find out far too late that in motion...they can look terrible (RIP Nina of the big boobies). So the test you saw was literally that. Just a pose with rough lighting and props to see how she would look. :)

As to the minigun itself, I semi-agree. Remember it was a test pose so, although all your points are valid, they weren't a consideration for the purpose of the render. That said, the current smallest variation of the XM556 minigun weighs in at some 16lbs. Compare that to the XM214 made twenty years before, which came in at a rocking 25lbs and it isn't inconceivable that the carry weight could well fall. Now I appreciate that we have the recoil to deal with of course, and I would never advocate firing anything larger than a pistol one handed (even if only for aiming purposes), but again, should we so wish, we can point to the reduction in calibre amongst modern firearms. NATO standard round has dropped from when I was a lass from 7.62mm to 5.56mm now. Again, of course, this is for a variety of reasons but this also has the added advantage of reducing recoil and improving accuracy with the dynamics of the 5.56, although having less penetrating power, gaining the trade off of increased accuracy due to having to re-sight less frequently.

So...it's not that implausible that, at a stretch, we could in my little world has a mini that rocked in at say 10lbs and used either a smaller calibre round or a round that had improved physical attributes, or even was more efficient in its gas re-cycling on discharge.

But as I say, it really was just a test pose :)

Yeah, they've got artificial gravity in an relatively small spaceship; that violates more laws of physics than a big gun having trivial recoil.
An excellent point - and one oddly I'd considered (originally the crisis back in the day would have had the anti-grav fail too). For in game purposes, in case your curious, anti-grav is provided by nano artificial gravity creators embedded in the floors and ceilings of ships. Gravitons (no, I dunno what they are, but that's whats I call the science for artificial gravity here!) are emitted from Naggs in a hemispherical pattern that, when taken together provide a sufficient all round gravitational effect that simulates the norm. There have to be multiple strips of Naggs placed around the vessel though else you get oddities like people constantly leaning towards the walls etc. They have to be in the floors and ceilings too so that there is an equal balance between being pulled both upwards and downwards too. But anyhoo....that's just me rambling :)
 

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The new game looks... a bit different, @Nottravis . You need that video card still?
*laughs*

If I did it in that cartoon strip style life would be -much -easier!

I imagine some game has that as a Patreon tier- for $X, you get to be a background character! For $Y, you get a speaking role! For $Z, you are a romantic option in the game!
*blinks and looks thoughtful...*
 

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As to the minigun itself, I semi-agree. Remember it was a test pose so, although all your points are valid, they weren't a consideration for the purpose of the render. That said, the current smallest variation of the XM556 minigun weighs in at some 16lbs. Compare that to the XM214 made twenty years before, which came in at a rocking 25lbs and it isn't inconceivable that the carry weight could well fall. Now I appreciate that we have the recoil to deal with of course, and I would never advocate firing anything larger than a pistol one handed (even if only for aiming purposes), but again, should we so wish, we can point to the reduction in calibre amongst modern firearms. NATO standard round has dropped from when I was a lass from 7.62mm to 5.56mm now. Again, of course, this is for a variety of reasons but this also has the added advantage of reducing recoil and improving accuracy with the dynamics of the 5.56, although having less penetrating power, gaining the trade off of increased accuracy due to having to re-sight less frequently.

So...it's not that implausible that, at a stretch, we could in my little world has a mini that rocked in at say 10lbs and used either a smaller calibre round or a round that had improved physical attributes, or even was more efficient in its gas re-cycling on discharge.

But as I say, it really was just a test pose :)



An excellent point - and one oddly I'd considered (originally the crisis back in the day would have had the anti-grav fail too). For in game purposes, in case your curious, anti-grav is provided by nano artificial gravity creators embedded in the floors and ceilings of ships. Gravitons (no, I dunno what they are, but that's whats I call the science for artificial gravity here!) are emitted from Naggs in a hemispherical pattern that, when taken together provide a sufficient all round gravitational effect that simulates the norm. There have to be multiple strips of Naggs placed around the vessel though else you get oddities like people constantly leaning towards the walls etc. They have to be in the floors and ceilings too so that there is an equal balance between being pulled both upwards and downwards too. But anyhoo....that's just me rambling :)
Did I just have a technogasm? :oops:

I'm not even going to pretend to have any substantial knowledge about these matters and just sit here impressed. Particularly, with the gun points (and I'm not even being held at gunpoint to admit it).:)
 

Goblin Baily: DILF

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Morning scamps,





Ooooh, I am glad you like her - thanks.

Alrighties, well if you chaps are going to start showing some thought on this the least I can do is a give a reply :)

Firstly, she was a concept test. One of the -hard- lessons I've learned is that you can't trust models to behave. So it's all well and good making a nice model but unless you test them by throwing them into scenes you can find out far too late that in motion...they can look terrible (RIP Nina of the big boobies). So the test you saw was literally that. Just a pose with rough lighting and props to see how she would look. :)

As to the minigun itself, I semi-agree. Remember it was a test pose so, although all your points are valid, they weren't a consideration for the purpose of the render. That said, the current smallest variation of the XM556 minigun weighs in at some 16lbs. Compare that to the XM214 made twenty years before, which came in at a rocking 25lbs and it isn't inconceivable that the carry weight could well fall. Now I appreciate that we have the recoil to deal with of course, and I would never advocate firing anything larger than a pistol one handed (even if only for aiming purposes), but again, should we so wish, we can point to the reduction in calibre amongst modern firearms. NATO standard round has dropped from when I was a lass from 7.62mm to 5.56mm now. Again, of course, this is for a variety of reasons but this also has the added advantage of reducing recoil and improving accuracy with the dynamics of the 5.56, although having less penetrating power, gaining the trade off of increased accuracy due to having to re-sight less frequently.

So...it's not that implausible that, at a stretch, we could in my little world has a mini that rocked in at say 10lbs and used either a smaller calibre round or a round that had improved physical attributes, or even was more efficient in its gas re-cycling on discharge.

But as I say, it really was just a test pose :)



An excellent point - and one oddly I'd considered (originally the crisis back in the day would have had the anti-grav fail too). For in game purposes, in case your curious, anti-grav is provided by nano artificial gravity creators embedded in the floors and ceilings of ships. Gravitons (no, I dunno what they are, but that's whats I call the science for artificial gravity here!) are emitted from Naggs in a hemispherical pattern that, when taken together provide a sufficient all round gravitational effect that simulates the norm. There have to be multiple strips of Naggs placed around the vessel though else you get oddities like people constantly leaning towards the walls etc. They have to be in the floors and ceilings too so that there is an equal balance between being pulled both upwards and downwards too. But anyhoo....that's just me rambling :)
Ramble some more. But I think Becca in the tutorial gave a simple explanation for it; sometimes a girl needs big toys
 
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