Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Y'know sometimes I re-read my posts and I can just hear the sounds of grinding of teeth flowing across the internet.....

Are you sure it's not cogs whirring?

 

[Nottravis]

Are you sure it's not cogs whirring?

Could be!

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

It is such a shame that people like the PPF are thwarting colonisation plans isn't it?

But with no colony ships actually completed (thanks, Thea...) and only the three "I" class capable of inter system travel the fleet is very, very stretched. The loss of the Invincible was most unfortunate in making a bad situation even worse. I'm not suprised the MC has orders to consider closing the place. Last thing they need is to be keeping an eye on another planet when they have Phoebe to play with, no?

Maybe the MC should close it down. It does seem a sensible thing to do, no? It would take pressure off the mission for sure. Who cares if the plant is fixed if you're going to shut it down.



I'm sure there is a perfectly sensible answer for that. *sage nods*

What if Invincible was docked on another planet, that is kept secret from the public, so when the time arises, there could be a coup staged... nothing unifies the public opinion like a huuuuge space vessel piloted by "terrorists" with a cargo of armed aliens ( obviously dead) ...

 

[Nottravis]

What if Invincible was docked on another planet, that is kept secret from the public, so when the time arises, there could be a coup staged... nothing unifies the public opinion like a huuuuge space vessel piloted by "terrorists" with a cargo of armed aliens ( obviously dead) ...

 

[DA22]

It is such a shame that people like the PPF are thwarting colonisation plans isn't it?

But with no colony ships actually completed (thanks, Thea...) and only the three "I" class capable of inter system travel the fleet is very, very stretched. The loss of the Invincible was most unfortunate in making a bad situation even worse. I'm not suprised the MC has orders to consider closing the place. Last thing they need is to be keeping an eye on another planet when they have Phoebe to play with, no?

Maybe the MC should close it down. It does seem a sensible thing to do, no? It would take pressure off the mission for sure. Who cares if the plant is fixed if you're going to shut it down.



I'm sure there is a perfectly sensible answer for that. *sage nods*

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Whether or not anyone gets Annie, (double entendre was on purpose), the simple theory that you never ever put all your eggs in one basket unless you have no choice should make Ophion way more important as is even with those problems. I can understand Phoebe is the priority but setting up a small self sustaining colony on Ophion should be a goal at least in my opinion. Besides you can not tell me there are not hundreds of Xenobiologists on Earth that would give their left ball to be able to study new species on Ophion normally, even with Phoebe out there.

 

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Annie's a bit of a loon, and that just makes me love her more.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

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Another possibility is that the AI developed self awareness, in that case it wouldn't be surprising if the Vanny had enough, she's the longest on duty. And if that was the case, it would be possible for the station to reroute power into other engines without Mike noticing anything... the code could simply load a backup version

 

[Nottravis]

Whether or not anyone gets Annie, (double entendre was on purpose), the simple theory that you never ever put all your eggs in one basket unless you have no choice should make Ophion way more important as is even with those problems. I can understand Phoebe is the priority but setting up a small self sustaining colony on Ophion should be a goal at least in my opinion. Besides you can not tell me there are not hundreds of Xenobiologists on Earth that would give there left ball to be able to study new species on Ophion normally eveen with Phoebe out there.

Oh they'd love to be out there I'm sure. As would a whole host of biologists, geologists and indeed a whole pile of others. But it's a logistics problem really.

With the I class being exploration ships rather than large scale people movers, the amount of civilians they can shift at any one time will be quite limited and with only three ships available it's how best they can deploy their very limited resources.

As a rule of thumb the fleet currently has one in orbit around Phoebe, one back at Earth for repair, rest and refit and one in transit. You could deploy them differently of course. Have one make shuttle runs just to Ophion, one making runs just to Phoebe and keep one in repair. But that leaves gaps in support at each planet, reducing the only vessels that can support the ground team to occasional visits twice a year.... Risky. Given that Phoebe seems to be a better option all round, and pending the completion of the first colony vessel, perhaps it's not surprising they've decided what they've decided. Focus on just one for now given the low people numbers they can move and give it full support.

Of course once the colony vessels come on stream perhaps things will change.

 

[DA22]

Oh they'd love to be out there I'm sure. As would a whole host of biologists, geologists and indeed a whole pile of others. But it's a logistics problem really.

With the I class being exploration ships rather than large scale people movers, the amount of civilians they can shift at any one time will be quite limited and with only three ships available it's how best they can deploy their very limited resources.

As a rule of thumb the fleet currently has one in orbit around Phoebe, one back at Earth for repair, rest and refit and one in transit. You could deploy them differently of course. Have one make shuttle runs just to Ophion, one making runs just to Phoebe and keep one in repair. But that leaves gaps in support at each planet, reducing the only vessels that can support the ground team to occasional visits twice a year.... Risky. Given that Phoebe seems to be a better option all round, and pending the completion of the first colony vessel, perhaps it's not surprising they've decided what they've decided. Focus on just one for now given the low people numbers they can move and give it full support.

Of course once the colony vessels come on stream perhaps things will change.

Well that is quite a bit of background information, now just hope that the people that made those decisions did not make the wrong decisions based upon the wrong data. Edit: It also means that the missing 4th ship is missed a lot, since it would give more options to command, whoever that might be.

 

[Nottravis]

Well that is quite a bit of background information, now just hope that the people that made those decisions did not make the wrong decisions based upon the wrong data.

Oh I never said they made the -right- decision....

But it's not an unreasonable one really. I suspect also lurking at the back of their mind is just WTF happened to the Invincible. Losing a quarter of your fleet would make you very risk averse I suspect.

So I think like a lot of decisions that the NPC's may well make in H5 we may not agree with them (after all we don't agree with real people all the time every day now do we?) but none of their decisions will ever be without a logic chain. Or at least what seems to be a logic chain to them. Promise.

OOPs: Edit for the edit!

Edit: It also means that the missing 4th ship is missed a lot, since it would give more options to command, whoever that might be.

It's a logistical bitch losing the Invincible. I mean it was for me when I scratched out where all the ships would be so God help the poor buggers trying to manage the thing in game life!

 

[NeimadFR]

I was going crazy looking for that damn cat on every pictures ! Felt like Where is Waldo ! But I finally found it

 

[Nottravis]

I was going crazy looking for that damn cat on every pictures ! Felt like Where is Waldo ! But I finally found it

See! Entertainment provided in all sorts of ways with me!

 

[DA22]

Oh I never said they made the -right- decision....

But it's not an unreasonable one really. I suspect also lurking at the back of their mind is just WTF happened to the Invincible. Losing a quarter of your fleet would make you very risk averse I suspect.

So I think like a lot of decisions that the NPC's may well make in H5 we may not agree with them (after all we don't agree with real people all the time every day now do we?) but none of their decisions will ever be without a logic chain. Or at least what seems to be a logic chain to them. Promise.

OOPs: Edit for the edit!



It's a logistical bitch losing the Invincible. I mean it was for me when I scratched out where all the ships would be so God help the poor buggers trying to manage the thing in game life!

True, that is why it is always dangerous to put all your eggs in one basket, sometimes you have no choice of course. though in that case you better be extremely sure off your choice. Also that would make it very unlikely that Invicible just decided to mutiny. With each of the 4 ships so important security would be very high one expects.

 

[Nottravis]

True, that is why it is always dangerous to put all your ggs in one basket, sometimes you have no choice of course. though in that case you better be extremely sure off your choice. Also that would make it very unlikely that Invicible just decided to mutiny. With each of the 4 ships so important security would be very high one expects.

VERY high. There's a reason they have a marine detachment on board each vessel.

 

[Dripping]

Well that is quite a bit of background information, now just hope that the people that made those decisions did not make the wrong decisions based upon the wrong data. Edit: It also means that the missing 4th ship is missed a lot, since it would give more options to command, whoever that might be.

Lots of background information today. A lot of it we already knew (or should know), but it's definitely interesting seeing it all rehashed here, ordered differently.
Like:
So, Ophion is old. Possibly older than earth even. Then, why aren't those Ophions further developed? Or were they telepathically communicating with eachother?
Ophion 1: "I can't believe she wielded the hammer on us. Are they really that backward?"
Ophio 2: "LOL! Let's just play along, see how far she will go"

Or, maybe they aren't the most intelligent species of Ophion, and the primary intelligent species already left the planet?
And, if there's a more intelligent species somewhere, then maybe that weird sighting had some truth in it? Or maybe there's some link to the missing 4th ship?

 

[Nottravis]

Lots of background information today. A lot of it we already knew (or should know), but it's definitely interesting seeing it all rehashed here, ordered differently.
Like:
So, Ophion is old. Possibly older than earth even. Then, why aren't those Ophions further developed? Or were they telepathically communicating with eachother?
Ophion 1: "I can't believe she wielded the hammer on us. Are they really that backward?"
Ophio 2: "LOL! Let's just play along, see how far she will go"

Or, maybe they aren't the most intelligent species of Ophion, and the primary intelligent species already left the planet?
And, if there's a more intelligent species somewhere, then maybe that weird sighting had some truth in it? Or maybe there's some link to the missing 4th ship?

I think almost everything I've blabbed today is already in game to some extent - although not as obvious as my statements here. Certainly, nothing in game contradicts it as this is all straight out the game bible.

Good questions for sure .

Now if only you knew a geologist, a neurologist and a linguistics expert....

 

[DA22]

Lots of background information today. A lot of it we already knew (or should know), but it's definitely interesting seeing it all rehashed here, ordered differently.
Like:
So, Ophion is old. Possibly older than earth even. Then, why aren't those Ophions further developed? Or were they telepathically communicating with eachother?
Ophion 1: "I can't believe she wielded the hammer on us. Are they really that backward?"
Ophio 2: "LOL! Let's just play along, see how far she will go"

Or, maybe they aren't the most intelligent species of Ophion, and the primary intelligent species already left the planet?
And, if there's a more intelligent species somewhere, then maybe that weird sighting had some truth in it? Or maybe there's some link to the missing 4th ship?

You forget the most obvious answer of course, they might have been developed further, but if they did not find another inhabitable world and they used all their resources, this may well be the remnants of what was once a developed civilization. Time will tell.

 

[Nottravis]

You forget the most obvious answer of course, they might have been developed further, but if they did not find another inhabitable world and they used all their resources, this may well be the remnants of what was once a developed civilization. Time will tell.

Another option of course is perhaps they just didn't develop further? Evolution can have dead ends...

If only there was someway of finding out...

 

[Huitieme]

But if she is a spy, well....why not Marcus? Or Trisha? Or....etc etc. I mean, why would there be a spy there anyway?

It's a backwater research station. It doesn't seem that important to me...

We need a suspifry reaction

 

[DA22]

I think almost everything I've blabbed today is already in game to some extent - although not as obvious as my statements here. Certainly, nothing in game contradicts it as this is all straight out the game bible.

Good questions for sure .

Now if only you knew a geologist, a neurologist and a linguistics expert....

Funny, do we not know those people purely by accident of course?