Ren'Py Abandoned Heavy Five [Ch.2RS] [Nottravis]

[Nottravis]

I think almost everything I've blabbed today is already in game to some extent - although not as obvious as my statements here. Certainly, nothing in game contradicts it as this is all straight out the game bible.

Good questions for sure .

Now if only you knew a geologist, a neurologist and a linguistics expert....

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[Nottravis]

Funny, do we not know those people purely by accident of course?

Oh yeah...

Good point!

 

[NeimadFR]

See! Entertainment provided in all sorts of ways with me!

btw is the cat inspired by this kitty cat or maybe this one or none of the above ?

 

[DA22]

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Why would we be so cruel to you and even expect you to deliver one? Completely innocent question.

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Another option of course is perhaps they just didn't develop further? Evolution can have dead ends...

If only there was someway of finding out...

So you mean like the great filter idea?

 

[Nottravis]

btw is the cat inspired by this kitty cat View attachment 419642 or maybe this one View attachment 419649 or none of the above ?

A little bit of one on the left and a nod to one of my first patrons.

 

[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Oh they'd love to be out there I'm sure. As would a whole host of biologists, geologists and indeed a whole pile of others. But it's a logistics problem really.

With the I class being exploration ships rather than large scale people movers, the amount of civilians they can shift at any one time will be quite limited and with only three ships available it's how best they can deploy their very limited resources.

As a rule of thumb the fleet currently has one in orbit around Phoebe, one back at Earth for repair, rest and refit and one in transit. You could deploy them differently of course. Have one make shuttle runs just to Ophion, one making runs just to Phoebe and keep one in repair. But that leaves gaps in support at each planet, reducing the only vessels that can support the ground team to occasional visits twice a year.... Risky. Given that Phoebe seems to be a better option all round, and pending the completion of the first colony vessel, perhaps it's not surprising they've decided what they've decided. Focus on just one for now given the low people numbers they can move and give it full support.

Of course once the colony vessels come on stream perhaps things will change.

Notty, isn't Phoebe too good to be true ? If the LGM managed to reach a tribal stage with little resources as on Ophion, what are the chances of Phobe's civilization having the technology and numbers to stop any colonisation attemp ?

 

[NeimadFR]

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[DA22]

Notty, isn't Phoebe too good to be true ? If the LGM managed to reach a tribal stage with little resources as on Ophion, what are the chances of Phobe's civilization having the technology and numbers to stop any colonisation attemp ?

Also a good question if the planet is that good and even Ophion can develop intelligent life, why isn't there one on Phoebe. Is it maybe not so perfect for intelligent life?

 

[Huitieme]

Also a good question if the planet is that good and even Ophion can develop intelligent life, why isn't there one on Phoebe. Is it maybe not so perfect for intelligent life?

Notty, isn't Phoebe too good to be true ? If the LGM managed to reach a tribal stage with little resources as on Ophion, what are the chances of Phobe's civilization having the technology and numbers to stop any colonisation attemp ?

What if Phoebe was a lie!?


Friday night social life kept me away from the thread while you brave gents have been having interesting conversations

 

[DA22]

What if Phoebe was a lie!?
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Friday night social life kept me away from the thread while you brave gents have been having interesting conversations

Or an illusion?

 

[NeimadFR]

What if Phoebe was a lie!?
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Friday night social life kept me away from the thread while you brave gents have been having interesting conversations

 

[Huitieme]

Or an illusion?

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[Goblin Baily: DILF]

Also a good question if the planet is that good and even Ophion can develop intelligent life, why isn't there one on Phoebe. Is it maybe not so perfect for intelligent life?

Simple... an abundance of resources favours the development of matriarchal societies, and as we know, women- especially those intelligent as showcased by Notty's evasive skills in answering questions- are quite elusive... maybe there was no first contact or we would have a first contact war like in the case of the Turians

 

[Dripping]

I think almost everything I've blabbed today is already in game to some extent - although not as obvious as my statements here. Certainly, nothing in game contradicts it as this is all straight out the game bible.

Good questions for sure .

Now if only you knew a geologist, a neurologist and a linguistics expert....

Actually... I do.
I'm just missing uhmmmm options?

 

[Nottravis]

Notty, isn't Phoebe too good to be true ? If the LGM managed to reach a tribal stage with little resources as on Ophion, what are the chances of Phobe's civilization having the technology and numbers to stop any colonisation attemp ?

No civilisation on Phoebe thankfully as far as Command is concerned. They've been pootling around there for months with a ship in orbit scanning everything and anything and absolutely no sign of any civilisation at all.

That is it's other big advantage over Ophion of course. No intelligent native life.

Also a good question if the planet is that good and even Ophion can develop intelligent life, why isn't there one on Phoebe. Is it maybe not so perfect for intelligent life?

It's an interesting one isn't it. But "life", in it's broadest sense, doesn't need intelligent life to be successful. Allow me to hand over to Professor Lynne Isbell, professor of anthropology at the University of California.

"Evolution isn't a progression. It's about how well organisms fit into their current environments." While extreme adaptability lets humans manipulate very different environments to meet our needs, that ability isn't enough to put humans at the top of the evolutionary ladder.

Take, for instance, ants. "Ants are as or more successful than we are," Isbell said "There are so many more ants in the world than humans, and they're well-adapted to where they're living."

While ants haven't developed writing (though they did invent agriculture long before we existed), they're hugely successful as a life form. They just aren't obviously excellent at all of the things humans tend to care about, which happens to be the things humans excel at.

"We have this idea of the fittest being the strongest or the fastest, but all you really have to do to win the evolutionary game is survive and reproduce."

So life doesn't need civilisation or indeed even creatures that can attain those heights. "Life" doesn't really care.

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Friday night social life kept me away from the thread while you brave gents have been having interesting conversations

A social life? What is one of those prey tell?

 

[Huitieme]

A social life? What is one of those prey tell?

I'll take "Thing that keeps me away from my only true love, Heavy Five", for 5000$, Alex!

 

[DA22]

No civilisation on Phoebe thankfully as far as Command is concerned. They've been pootling around there for months with a ship in orbit scanning everything and anything and absolutely no sign of any civilisation at all.

That is it's other big advantage over Ophion of course. No intelligent native life.



It's an interesting one isn't it. But "life", in it's broadest sense, doesn't need intelligent life to be successful. Allow me to hand over to Professor Lynne Isbell, professor of anthropology at the University of California.

"Evolution isn't a progression. It's about how well organisms fit into their current environments." While extreme adaptability lets humans manipulate very different environments to meet our needs, that ability isn't enough to put humans at the top of the evolutionary ladder.

Take, for instance, ants. "Ants are as or more successful than we are," Isbell said "There are so many more ants in the world than humans, and they're well-adapted to where they're living."

While ants haven't developed writing (though they did invent agriculture long before we existed), they're hugely successful as a life form. They just aren't obviously excellent at all of the things humans tend to care about, which happens to be the things humans excel at.

"We have this idea of the fittest being the strongest or the fastest, but all you really have to do to win the evolutionary game is survive and reproduce."

So life doesn't need civilisation or indeed even creatures that can attain those heights. "Life" doesn't really care.

Yeah I know that theory, i also know there are a few that disagree and say that evolution would tend to create intelligent life forms. Those last can just be human egomaniacs of course.

Edit: Unless a planet would create a life form of course that would be extremely well adapted to prey upon intelligent life, then that intelligence would become an evolutionary weakness for example.

 

[Nottravis]

No civilisation on Phoebe thankfully as far as Command is concerned. They've been pootling around there for months with a ship in orbit scanning everything and anything and absolutely no sign of any civilisation at all.

That is it's other big advantage over Ophion of course. No intelligent native life.



It's an interesting one isn't it. But "life", in it's broadest sense, doesn't need intelligent life to be successful. Allow me to hand over to Professor Lynne Isbell, professor of anthropology at the University of California.

"Evolution isn't a progression. It's about how well organisms fit into their current environments." While extreme adaptability lets humans manipulate very different environments to meet our needs, that ability isn't enough to put humans at the top of the evolutionary ladder.

Take, for instance, ants. "Ants are as or more successful than we are," Isbell said "There are so many more ants in the world than humans, and they're well-adapted to where they're living."

While ants haven't developed writing (though they did invent agriculture long before we existed), they're hugely successful as a life form. They just aren't obviously excellent at all of the things humans tend to care about, which happens to be the things humans excel at.

"We have this idea of the fittest being the strongest or the fastest, but all you really have to do to win the evolutionary game is survive and reproduce."

So life doesn't need civilisation or indeed even creatures that can attain those heights. "Life" doesn't really care.

I hope the devs for a "Landlady and lodger" get these type of questions!