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Yeah I know that theory, i also know there are a few that disagree and say that evolution would tend to create intelligent life forms. Those last can just be human egomaniacs of course. :ROFLMAO:
I think it's more about evolutionary niche and a dash of luck mebbe? Maybe given time Phoebe would have developed intelligent life. But tough! We got there first :)

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Edit: Unless a planet would create a life form of course that would be extremely well adapted to prey upon intelligent life, then that intelligence would become an evolutionary weakness for example.
Also quite possible. Certainly the scarcity of resources etc on Ophion does seem to have limited the LGM's. They don't even seem to be the top predator.
 

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No civilisation on Phoebe thankfully as far as Command is concerned. They've been pootling around there for months with a ship in orbit scanning everything and anything and absolutely no sign of any civilisation at all.

That is it's other big advantage over Ophion of course. No intelligent native life.



It's an interesting one isn't it. But "life", in it's broadest sense, doesn't need intelligent life to be successful. Allow me to hand over to Professor Lynne Isbell, professor of anthropology at the University of California.

"Evolution isn't a progression. It's about how well organisms fit into their current environments." While extreme adaptability lets humans manipulate very different environments to meet our needs, that ability isn't enough to put humans at the top of the evolutionary ladder.

Take, for instance, ants. "Ants are as or more successful than we are," Isbell said "There are so many more ants in the world than humans, and they're well-adapted to where they're living."

While ants haven't developed writing (though they did invent agriculture long before we existed), they're hugely successful as a life form. They just aren't obviously excellent at all of the things humans tend to care about, which happens to be the things humans excel at.

"We have this idea of the fittest being the strongest or the fastest, but all you really have to do to win the evolutionary game is survive and reproduce."


So life doesn't need civilisation or indeed even creatures that can attain those heights. "Life" doesn't really care.
As far as command is concerned... doesn't sound good when the commander can't even get through a news broadcast without being accused of being Thea...
Interesting that you speak of ants since they live underground and have a queen... you're so sweet confirming my suspicions without spoiling anything....
 

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As far as command is concerned... doesn't sound good when the commander can't even get through a news broadcast without being accused of being Thea...
Interesting that you speak of ants since they live underground and have a queen... you're so sweet confirming my suspicions without spoiling anything....
Or she is playing us like a fiddle. :p
 
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As far as command is concerned... doesn't sound good when the commander can't even get through a news broadcast without being accused of being Thea...
Interesting that you speak of ants since they live underground and have a queen... you're so sweet confirming my suspicions without spoiling anything....
Oh he's just a Commander - not Command. Command is the rather generic term used for the fleet command and it was professor Isbell who mentioned ants. Not me. :)

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No civilisation on Phoebe thankfully as far as Command is concerned. They've been pootling around there for months with a ship in orbit scanning everything and anything and absolutely no sign of any civilisation at all.

That is it's other big advantage over Ophion of course. No intelligent native life.



It's an interesting one isn't it. But "life", in it's broadest sense, doesn't need intelligent life to be successful. Allow me to hand over to Professor Lynne Isbell, professor of anthropology at the University of California.

"Evolution isn't a progression. It's about how well organisms fit into their current environments." While extreme adaptability lets humans manipulate very different environments to meet our needs, that ability isn't enough to put humans at the top of the evolutionary ladder.

Take, for instance, ants. "Ants are as or more successful than we are," Isbell said "There are so many more ants in the world than humans, and they're well-adapted to where they're living."

While ants haven't developed writing (though they did invent agriculture long before we existed), they're hugely successful as a life form. They just aren't obviously excellent at all of the things humans tend to care about, which happens to be the things humans excel at.

"We have this idea of the fittest being the strongest or the fastest, but all you really have to do to win the evolutionary game is survive and reproduce."


So life doesn't need civilisation or indeed even creatures that can attain those heights. "Life" doesn't really care.
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I think it's more about evolutionary niche and a dash of luck mebbe? Maybe given time Phoebe would have developed intelligent life. But tough! We got there first :)
But what about letting life develop naturally instead of implementing humanity everywhere like a bad lichen on a dying rock? What do the scientists still on Earth think of this pregenocide? How does the Earth fare, by the way? Is it thriving thanks to newly developed technology? Did the prophecized natural cataclysmic disasters happen? Is there peace among the people and singing tomorrow?
 

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Yeah I know that theory, i also know there are a few that disagree and say that evolution would tend to create intelligent life forms. Those last can just be human egomaniacs of course. :ROFLMAO:

Edit: Unless a planet would create a life form of course that would be extremely well adapted to prey upon intelligent life, then that intelligence would become an evolutionary weakness for example.
But wouldn't the most egomanic thing thinking that we are the only intelligent life form in the universe ? :unsure:
 

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But what about letting life develop naturally instead of implementing humanity everywhere like a bad lichen on a dying rock? What do the scientists still on Earth think of this pregenocide? How does the Earth fare, by the way? Is it thriving thanks to newly developed technology? Did the prophecized natural cataclysmic disasters happen? Is there peace among the people and singing tomorrow?
Well the fact all the rich wish to leave the sinking ship (at least if we may believe the PPF on one thing) likely not super good. :p
 

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But what about letting life develop naturally instead of implementing humanity everywhere like a bad lichen on a dying rock? What do the scientists still on Earth think of this pregenocide? How does the Earth fare, by the way? Is it thriving thanks to newly developed technology? Did the prophecized natural cataclysmic disasters happen? Is there peace among the people and singing tomorrow?
I suspect Amanda knows the answer to that, she's getting updates from Earth.
 

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But wouldn't the most egomanic thing thinking that we are the only intelligent life form in the universe ? :unsure:
Oh I think Command hoped we would be - but weren't taking chances. I mean, have you seen how they kitted the I class out...

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But wouldn't the most egomanic thing thinking that we are the only intelligent life form in the universe ? :unsure:
If I remember right, current thinking is that the creation of life is likely a pretty rare event that requires a lot of luck with right conditions. There are likely also only a limited amount of suitable planets, so there is no clue atm whether life exists outside of Earth. If it does it is likely common and also intelligent remember dolphins are not much less intelligent as we are. :p, If that rare is really very very rare the universe might be quite empty though.
 
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