Filipis

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What do you mean 'no'? You can literally avoid having sex with her, and she won't get pregnant. This means there's a specific story path where she doesn't get pregnant. By choosing that, you basically skip any future scenes involving her kids.
By that measure, MC can remain a monk and not get ANY girl pregnant (except the wife).

Which now makes me think... all these visions seem to say that MC's children are going to be important in some way: what happens to the core plot if you don't have any children with Elin, Seraphina, Cass, or Lia?

Food for thought?
 

falconhawk223

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By that measure, MC can remain a monk and not get ANY girl pregnant (except the wife).

Which now makes me think... all these visions seem to say that MC's children are going to be important in some way: what happens to the core plot if you don't have any children with Elin, Seraphina, Cass, or Lia?

Food for thought?
Honestly I only remember the wives children and Elis's daughter being important. I don't recall any comments about the others. We already know Val's child isn't important. Speaking of which what about that scene with Isis's daughter maybe being the true snake?
 

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I am unable to load any of my saves from last update. I get an error upon loading. In both cases (this update and last update) I used the compressed version and the incest patch. Any help please? I have included the traceback error
 

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I mean, maybe we'll get the option to take some official concubines at some point far down the line, who knows. But as far as having both Aurora and Isis in it...Very low chance, as they were both valuable marriages to be offered to a prince. One of them just becoming the "2nd wife" or even worse, a concubine. I think that would be considered rather insulting and a big no-no.

But again, who knows.



...You wanna give Elves land huh...Human lands?...

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who said anything about human land?! Find some vast wasteland and send elves to settle it. Something like Australia for elves. Create an equivalent of the British dominion system. Rome had a confederate system of empires. The Roman Confederate System: When You're Sort of Rome, But Sort of Independent One of the most sophisticated inventions of the Roman Empire wasn't aqueducts, gladiators, or even the Latin language. The true miracle of Roman engineering was the confederate system—a way to keep half the world under control without spending money on maintaining all that horde. In short: you're formally an independent state, but in reality, you're a free branch of Rome. Or, as they would say today: "We're not a colony, we're security partners." How it worked After each war, Rome generously granted "autonomy" to the defeated peoples. They could: mint their own coins (with the emperor's profile, of course), elect rulers (approved by the Senate), and even fight (only at Rome's behest). In exchange, they were obliged to: supply soldiers for the Roman legions, not enter into alliances without permission, and, most importantly, love Rome—preferably sincerely. You're not a slave—you're a "friend of Rome." The title of amicus populi Romani ("friend of the Roman people") sounded almost like the Legion of Honor. In practice, it meant: "You're now our satellite; pay your taxes, fight for us, and don't even think of thinking for yourself." Numidia, Judea, Cappadocia, and Galatia, for example, had this status—a whole gallery of "friends" who regularly tried to escape this friendship. But escaping Rome was as difficult as escaping Facebook: you seem to delete your account, but the data still remains.
 
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Nepalese Gurkhas, or How British Kings Are Guarded by Mercenaries from Nepal Great Britain, a country with a centuries-old military history, whose armies once controlled a quarter of the world, still relies on one of the most astonishing and ancient mercenary systems: the famous Gurkhas from Nepal. At first glance, it seems like a perfect tale of loyalty: Nepalese warriors, renowned for their ferocity and iconic kukri knife, have voluntarily served under the British flag for over two centuries. But dig deeper, and a sharp historical irony emerges: the British crown is guarded by the descendants of those the Empire never fully subjugated. The Paradox of the "Friend" The history of this alliance began with war. In 1814, the British East India Company clashed with the united Nepalese Kingdom in the Anglo-Nepalese War. The Gurkhas fighting in the highlands demonstrated such desperate courage and incredible resilience that, when the conflict ended with the signing of the Treaty of Sugauli in 1816, the British made a decision that forever changed the fate of their army: they began actively recruiting their former enemies. It was a brilliant imperial move: instead of expending resources on maintaining control of Nepal (the country remained formally independent), Britain simply outsourced its need for fearless infantry. Nepal became, in effect, an independent enclave, supplying the British Army, and later the Indian Army, with its finest sons. The Gurkhas served in every conceivable hotspot of the Empire: from the Indian Mutiny to the world wars, where their losses numbered in the tens of thousands, and to the Falklands War, where their mere presence struck terror into the hearts of Argentine soldiers. Loyalty Bought in Blood The irony reaches its peak in the question of service. The Gurkhas are not simply a Foreign Legion; they are part of the British military establishment. They not only participate in long campaigns but also serve in elite guard units, guarding the royal residences in London and Windsor. Thus, the symbol of British power—the monarch himself—is guarded by soldiers who, according to British law, are not British citizens. This is the ultimate symbol of reliability, since their loyalty, though paid, is rooted in a code of honor that the British themselves respect above any political treaties. Until recently, however, this "loyalty" was accompanied by enormous inequities in pay and pensions compared to their British counterparts. This historical irony sometimes had a very cynical economic dimension: the best soldiers cost the Empire significantly less. The Gurkha Memorial in London bears a phrase that perfectly captures this paradoxical friendship born from admiration for the enemy: "Bravest of the brave, noblest of the noble, no country ever had truer friends than you."
 
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Honestly I only remember the wives children and Elis's daughter being important. I don't recall any comments about the others. We already know Val's child isn't important. Speaking of which what about that scene with Isis's daughter maybe being the true snake?
Unless the identity of the snakes varies between playthroughs, Azalia won't be one of the snakes of the prophecy, since she only exists if Elis marries Isis. Her snake appearance is likely connected with the story told in the vision of the traveler who saved a snake, and does not mean she is one of the three snakes/puppeteers. The vision's meaning is likely how Isis is 'harmless' to Elis up until their children are born/grown. I think even Ludwig flats out tells you that on a scene.
 
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vmaks

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Isis already said she's fine with a harem but won't tolerate another wife
And whoever spoke of wives is talking about concubines. The Chinese Harem, or How the Chinese Sought to Bureaucratize Even Love Anyone even slightly familiar with Chinese history knows one incontrovertible truth: if something can be organized, controlled, recorded, and ranked, the Chinese will do it. Bureaucracy was more than just a system of governance; it was a philosophy that permeated all spheres of Imperial life, from taxation to the construction of the Great Wall. But the pinnacle of this bureaucratic genius was, perhaps, its application to the most personal and irrational institution of power—the Imperial Harem. While in Europe, royal mistresses were more often the subject of scandal and whispers, in China they became part of the state apparatus, and passion a strictly regulated position. Bureaucracy Born from Chaos The Harem (or Inner Court) was more than just a dwelling place for concubines; It was a separate, closed world, numbering hundreds, sometimes thousands, of women, not to mention tens of thousands of eunuchs and servants. Without strict regulations, this world would have become a breeding ground for intrigue, conspiracy, and, worst of all for officials, uncontrolled influence. This is precisely why the state approached the management of the harem with the same seriousness as it did the governance of a province. An example of bureaucracy in action: To control this vast structure, a complex hierarchy was created, often overseen by the Imperial Household Department (Nei Wu Fu). Within this department, special departments operated, tasked with overseeing everything that happened in the Inner Court, from the distribution of silk to the order of "summoning" concubines to the Son of Heaven. The concubines themselves were divided into strict ranks, which were strictly regulated and often enshrined in law: Empress (Huanghou) – the only legal rank, "First Lady." Higher ranks (Guifei, Fei, Bin) – the most influential concubines, often referred to as "Consorts" or "Consorts." Their number was strictly limited (for example, two Guifei, four Fei, and six Bin). Junior ranks (Guiren, Changzai, Dain) – the lowest ranks, whose number could reach hundreds. Each rank had its own staff of maids, an annual allowance of silver and silk, and a specified amount of food (meat, tea, coal). There were even special eunuch registrars who kept the emperor's "visit log," ensuring that no heir could appear without proper bureaucratic registration. The Irony of Regulation Herein lay the ultimate irony: feelings, intimate relationships, and the birth of heirs—the most unpredictable things in human life—were squeezed into tables, charts, and limits worthy of a financial report. The Emperor could love a woman, but he couldn't simply promote her rank if it violated the established quotas. Eunuchs, formally the lowest caste, often became de facto "harem ministers," regulating access to the Emperor's body and, in essence, controlling who would have the chance to produce an heir to the throne. Chinese bureaucracy couldn't make love predictable, but it made it manageable. And for an official, what could be more important? Anything not written down doesn't exist. And even passion, lacking official rank, was nothing more than a fleeting phantom in the rigidly structured Inner Court.
 

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Alright restarting playthroughs to get to current update:

My plan -
Warrior with saves Green and White - Ring Seraphina, Cass, Elin and Aurora/Isis - Lust Queen

Bookworm with saves green and white - Ring Seraphina, Cass, Elin and Aurora/Isis - Love Queen
 

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Unless the identity of the snakes varies between playthroughs, Azalia won't be one of the snakes of the prophecy, since she only exists if Elis marries Isis. Her snake appearance is likely connected with the story told in the vision of the traveler who saved a snake, and does not mean she is one of the three snakes/puppeteers. The vision's meaning is likely how Isis is 'harmless' to Elis up until their children are born/grown. I think even Ludwig flats out tells you that on a scene.
If the snake varies through playthroughs that means Isis can't be the snake either. If it does vary through playthroughs that might mean Azalia is one of the snakes
 

falconhawk223

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Does anybody remember LM mentioning that Chapter 2 will be a whole different game as if he update this one then the size will be too large and many people won't download it? I wonder what will be the name of the game featuring the chapter 2 then?
Probably just going to be Imperial chronicles chapter 2. A lot of devs divide chapters/seasons to separate downloads and then you just transfer over saves.
 

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Damn, I just decided to replay the whole Val sequence again. As I skipped through it pretty fast originally so I could get to killing my arch-enemy. But I've now realised how awkward it's going to be if/when my Elis ever runs into Val again in CH2. What with the whole...

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Okay, I do kinda feel a little bad now...
 

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What is white blood? And why are Seras children killing each other?
Also why is Aurora's blood cold?
 
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But Isis cant kill Cass if you supported her coup that option is only when you dont participe in the coup otherwise you only get the option to kill cass through callahan.
I don't mean the first coup invitation

It was the second coup invitation when she used Lia to threaten us
 

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Just finished the update and I enjoyed it very much.
Storyline keeps me engaged & it feels unpredictable & keeps me guessing.
I'm looking forward to Chapter 2.

Though some things I noticed Lazy_Monkey :

1) On all routes;
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I feel like this has to be Elis who speaks that initial line and is a name mistakenly put as Elin.


2) Support Cass in coup route (Green Crown)
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Uh, this is what appears in White Crown route (not supporting Cass's coup), so I don't think this should be appearing with Green Crown ending, but it somehow is.

Also another issue with the same ending,
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No idea what the issue is here (again, Green Crown ending).


3) All routes - text being cut off by the screen.
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This isn't the first time this has happened. This game since beginning, had frequently been plagued with this issue of bottom text being cut. And sure, it's not something major like a game breaking bug, but it happens enough to be annoying and I do think something should be done to fix it.
 
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