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As LSC82 told I am gonna play Erynn route and Alexis route, maybe also secret Alexis route. So I will have better grasp, so I am trying to understand this whole Erynn stuff. These 2 stuck my head in my first play through. There is something we don't know going around with Ethan and Erynn. My guess, Ethan obsessed with Erynn from the beginning. Second pic, maybe just a reference to escort business because it was before revelation but I feel like something sketchier going on. For the first pic, whatever Erynn said made Ethan furious and that conversation took some time, so I don't think she just said she was in love with MC or something like that. With dead body that everyone overlooked there is a possibility Erynn tangled much more than just escort business.
Is there a possibility that blackmail stuff already started at first pic? Do we have exact timeline for that? Since MC know Zane at least name base, maybe he was involved too. I always found Ethan recording sex tape of Erynn too sketchy. How did he know they were going to do that? It was their first time after all. Where did he record it? Was bf involved too. Since Erynn was too gullible to trick.

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"friend that is so idiot/stupid/moronic to make the MC looks great for the LI" (i think Leap of Faith is one of the very rare AVN to not use that trope),
And Babysitter. Jessie turns out a much better person than Chris eventually.

I wonder how things are going to end for Zach in the story
Hopefully badly lmao. The only way he can redeem himself truly at this point is if he sacrifices himself to save MC's and LI's life in some grand fashion and dies. :D
 
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As LSC82 told I am gonna play Erynn route and Alexis route, maybe also secret Alexis route. So I will have better grasp, so I am trying to understand this whole Erynn stuff. These 2 stuck my head in my first play through. There is something we don't know going around with Ethan and Erynn. My guess, Ethan obsessed with Erynn from the beginning. Second pic, maybe just a reference to escort business because it was before revelation but I feel like something sketchier going on. For the first pic, whatever Erynn said made Ethan furious and that conversation took some time, so I don't think she just said she was in love with MC or something like that. With dead body that everyone overlooked there is a possibility Erynn tangled much more than just escort business.
Is there a possibility that blackmail stuff already started at first pic? Do we have exact timeline for that? Since MC know Zane at least name base, maybe he was involved too. I always found Ethan recording sex tape of Erynn too sketchy. How did he know they were going to do that? It was their first time after all. Where did he record it? Was bf involved too. Since Erynn was too gullible to trick.

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After reading this I hope you are right and the blackmailing started sooner. Not only would it make her look better than her being to trusting for keeping Ethan around. It would probably make more sense with things like the sex tape. Yeah since we never seen Zane im starting to suspect / wonder if Zane may even be the one in charge and not Ethan. I think they are the ones that killed that person forget her name. As far as we know we just assumed the blackmail started when she started modeling from what she said. But the picture of her being worried kind of tells a different story like it's way worst than what she told us. It could of been going on for years for all we know there is really no proof on the time line other than what she said.
 

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After reading this I hope you are right and the blackmailing started sooner. Not only would it make her look better than her being to trusting for keeping Ethan around. It would probably make more sense with things like the sex tape. Yeah since we never seen Zane im starting to suspect / wonder if Zane may even be the one in charge and not Ethan. I think they are the ones that killed that person forget her name. As far as we know we just assumed the blackmail started when she started modeling from what she said. But the picture of her being worried kind of tells a different story like it's way worst than what she told us. It could of been going on for years for all we know there is really no proof on the time line other than what she said.
If it's more than 2 years would make Erynn underage. The laws would be MUCH harsher in that case, especially for CuntFace recording her having sex. That's production and distribution of CP.
 
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If it's more than 2 years would make Erynn underage. The laws would be MUCH harsher in that case, especially for CuntFace recording her having sex. That's production and distribution of CP.
Dude we are talking here about blackmail, murder etc. do you really think her being underage would stop them? Also, in the first pic Erynn was already 16 maybe even 17. As we know MC was 13 and it was his birthday, so if it his 14th birthday (this the most likely outcome, since Iris was a year ago and MC not being underage would benefit dev a lot) then as we also know 3 years difference between MC and Erynn, she is at least 16 or probably 17 already. We know Zane stuff started after MC so if it's after a year or something it could be 4 years blackmail for Erynn without being her underage. If so, she held stronger than most ngl.
But then what was first pic about? Maybe blackmail already started there and she was threatening Ethan with serious prison time?
After reading this I hope you are right and the blackmailing started sooner. Not only would it make her look better than her being to trusting for keeping Ethan around. It would probably make more sense with things like the sex tape. Yeah since we never seen Zane im starting to suspect / wonder if Zane may even be the one in charge and not Ethan. I think they are the ones that killed that person forget her name. As far as we know we just assumed the blackmail started when she started modeling from what she said. But the picture of her being worried kind of tells a different story like it's way worst than what she told us. It could of been going on for years for all we know there is really no proof on the time line other than what she said.
She said things were going good but she also believed Ethan was good, so maybe Zane reeled her in for Ethan. I am not sure Zane would be in charge because all the sketchiness comes from that modelling agency which owned by Ethan's father. Though Zane being pawn in Ethan's hand possible.
Heck, so many question so little clues. I may come back with another huge text wall, LSC82 will pay for it. ;)
 
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If it's more than 2 years would make Erynn underage. The laws would be MUCH harsher in that case, especially for CuntFace recording her having sex. That's production and distribution of CP.
Well when I ment by blackmail I meant any form of it not just the tape that happens as that could of happened later and earlier forms of blackmail could of been going on before than if said theroy happens to be true later.
 
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No, it wouldn't stop them, I'm just saying what I did that once tried for their crimes the punishments would be MUCH harsher. Again, doubtful they would survive the first year in prison, they'd probably be executed by other inmates.
Not sure about that also. Maybe I am misremembering things but was not John mentioned they were very well protected, even police don't dare to cross them because of Ethan's father's connections. If so, poor Erynn she probably suffered too much and looks like gonna suffer some more. Also assuming their first plan will be a disaster won't be a stretch.
 

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Not sure about that also. Maybe I am misremembering things but was not John mentioned they were very well protected, even police don't dare to cross them because of Ethan's father's connections. If so, poor Erynn she probably suffered too much and looks like gonna suffer some more. Also assuming their first plan will be a disaster won't be a stretch.
Not sure about the police part but it would not be a stretch. All I do remember is something on the lines Erynn said she started modeling before Ethan got involved and because his father was head of the modeling agency Ethan was made her new agent when he got involved in the business. So I would say it would safe to assume his father has some kind of protection / connections.
 

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lol this thread the last day or so got me wanting to replay Erynn's path and probably Alexis since they are my 2 favorites. But dont know when id get around to that beyond on other AVN's I have planned to play or replay haha.
 

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I wonder how things are going to end for Zach in the story
very painfully in accordance with Nyx´s patreon...
she is setting up a poll where for every level of Patreon you are you get x votes so a 10 bucks gets 10 votes and stuff!
if you are a 5 bucks you get 5 bucks!
but Nyx as been trying to determine what will be voted on...
i told her to set an option for "very painfully!"
Well when I ment by blackmail I meant any form of it not just the tape that happens as that could of happened later and earlier forms of blackmail could of been going on before than if said theroy happens to be true later.
that would mean Ethan wouldn´t be so incompetent in his blackmailing ways!
if thats the case he should have broken Erynn already, so perhaps she is arm candy for a few hundreds...
and a few thousands or even tens of thousands... she is all you want her to be! i mean...
she as been working as a model for 2/3 years now, considering her car her house her clothes...
yes it may be rented or being paid to the bank... but for someone who wants to be a mathematics teacher...
or else she is really good at maths and we are not seeing her entire revenue stream...
like in the original Nyx plan... where you had the friends with Ethan path where you would help him corrupt and break in Erynn..
so she was probably only doing the "regular" with extremely rich customers but you needed her to suck and take it in the ass....
By the way, Ethan and his father if they are on it... they aren´t being payed in money... they are being payed in contacts influence and favors...
cause they are recording Erynn with married men who are also relevant and influential...
since they can not threaten to release the tapes or photos... i mean they would be burning an asset!
(probably what happened with Diana... cheating is not enough...
lets kill the bitch and then release her tapes with whomever we want to take out or frame!)
in this sense Erynn is an amazing asset, to be sold once or twice a year to those that matter!

Sadly, it's not. These are just my wishes for the future.

Damnit, who is Zane again? I've forgotten.
Erynn 1st and only boyfriend up to this point!
but he is also a male model, had you not been in Erynn´s path
he would have been the one taking the photos with Erynn...
so the story would continue as planed but this time with Zane the ex-boyfriend
instead of mcjaw "ass in the floor all the time" pussy!
but he is also a manwhore and a MC in another game

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that would mean Ethan wouldn´t be so incompetent in his blackmailing ways!
if thats the case he should have broken Erynn already, so perhaps she is arm candy for a few hundreds...
and a few thousands or even tens of thousands... she is all you want her to be! i mean...
she as been working as a model for 2/3 years now, considering her car her house her clothes...
yes it may be rented or being paid to the bank... but for someone who wants to be a mathematics teacher...
or else she is really good at maths and we are not seeing her entire revenue stream...
like in the original Nyx plan... where you had the friends with Ethan path where you would help him corrupt and break in Erynn..
so she was probably only doing the "regular" with extremely rich customers but you needed her to suck and take it in the ass....
By the way, Ethan and his father if they are on it... they aren´t being payed in money... they are being payed in contacts influence and favors...
cause they are recording Erynn with married men who are also relevant and influential...
since they can not threaten to release the tapes or photos... i mean they would be burning an asset!
(probably what happened with Diana... cheating is not enough...
lets kill the bitch and then release her tapes with whomever we want to take out or frame!)
in this sense Erynn is an amazing asset, to be sold once or twice a year to those that matter!
tbh I didnt put any thought into it I was just clarifying what I meant when i agreed with someone else's potential theory.
 
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As LSC82 told I am gonna play Erynn route and Alexis route, maybe also secret Alexis route. So I will have better grasp, so I am trying to understand this whole Erynn stuff. These 2 stuck my head in my first play through. There is something we don't know going around with Ethan and Erynn. My guess, Ethan obsessed with Erynn from the beginning. Second pic, maybe just a reference to escort business because it was before revelation but I feel like something sketchier going on. For the first pic, whatever Erynn said made Ethan furious and that conversation took some time, so I don't think she just said she was in love with MC or something like that. With dead body that everyone overlooked there is a possibility Erynn tangled much more than just escort business.
Is there a possibility that blackmail stuff already started at first pic? Do we have exact timeline for that? Since MC know Zane at least name base, maybe he was involved too. I always found Ethan recording sex tape of Erynn too sketchy. How did he know they were going to do that? It was their first time after all. Where did he record it? Was bf involved too. Since Erynn was too gullible to trick.

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Just trying to be helpful, not trying to argue or anything lol.
A timeline of Ethan and Erynn(plus a bit of MC).
Before anything i'll say the game does treat those as facts not opinions.

This is before the "backyard incident".
Erynn is growing up and making new friends, one of them this guy named Ethan.
Ethan clearly wants something with Erynn, and tries to be around her as much as possible(this makes our MC very jealous, he thinks Ethan is stealing her).
Ethan is also a HUGE dick and likes to mess with our guy(who is a younger kid, smaller than he is).
Erynn is aware of that at least partially, as far as we know she never witnessed him getting physical with the MC, just mocking him, still yes the backyard wasn't the first time.

Backyard day.
After the MC runs off, Erynn and Ethan get into an argument and she gives him an ultimatum to stop what he's doing or she's gonna stop talking to him, he is seen leaving in an angry manner shortly after(runs into the MC and scares him off).
The MC does Ethan a big favor and cuts his relationship with Erynn, and leaves town shortly after.

After the Backyard.
Ethan does "change" his ways and starts being "nice"(he's faking of course), Erynn therefore keeps him around for awhile.
Despite that, Erynn still rebuffs his attempts to get with her and he goes back to evil mode, their friendly relationship is cut(for the most part, they still keep going to the same school and probably run into each other there, but they aren't friends anymore).
Small addendum, these last 2 are just said by Erynn and no proof is given, i think most(not to say all) things she has said while having a heart to heart with the MC have been proven true and i see no reason not to believe her... but your mileage may vary.

Erynn meets a guy named Zane and starts dating him.
Somehow Ethan grabs a tape of Zane taking Erynn's V-card and uses this to blackmail her into going to prom with him(Zane scrams after this).

Erynn signs up to a modeling agency, a modeling agency that is owned by Ethan's father(failed to do your diligence idiot).
Ethan ends up becoming her agent.
Ethan and Erynn have an abusive relationship rather than professional or friendly.
Ethan uses the same sextape to force Erynn to do extra jobs for cash(for him), as of current events these seem restricted to posing and walking around rich men.
Ethan is also still not over her and still wants to bang her, promises to throw away the tape if she does that(fat chance).

Into more current events.
Ethan dislikes the fact that the MC is back in town and connected to Erynn again, according to him since he's been back Erynn has become a lot less compliant and feistier, he demands that she cuts of their relationship but she refuses.
 
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Erynn 1st and only boyfriend up to this point!
but he is also a male model, had you not been in Erynn´s path
he would have been the one taking the photos with Erynn...
so the story would continue as planed but this time with Zane the ex-boyfriend
instead of mcjaw "ass in the floor all the time" pussy!
but he is also a manwhore and a MC in another game

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Holy fuck, Zane as in Miru's boyfriend Zane, Leia and Katie's brother Zane. Zane from "where it all began"? I didn't see that coming. :eek::eek::eek:
 
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Just trying to be helpful, not trying to argue or anything lol.
A timeline of Ethan and Erynn(plus a bit of MC).
Before anything i'll say the game does treat those as facts not opinions.

This is before the "backyard incident".
Erynn is growing up and making new friends, one of them this guy named Ethan.
Ethan clearly wants something with Erynn, and tries to be around her as much as possible(this makes our MC very jealous, he thinks Ethan is stealing her).
Ethan is also a HUGE dick and likes to mess with our guy(who is a younger kid, smaller than he is).
Erynn is aware of that at least partially, as far as we know she never witnessed him getting physical with the MC, just mocking him, still yes the backyard wasn't the first time.

Backyard day.
After the MC runs off, Erynn and Ethan get into an argument and she gives him an ultimatum to stop what he's doing or she's gonna stop talking to him, he is seen leaving in an angry manner shortly after(runs into the MC and scares him off).
The MC does Ethan a big favor and cuts his relationship with Erynn, and leaves town shortly after.

After the Backyard.
Ethan does "change" his ways and starts being "nice"(he's faking of course), Erynn therefore keeps him around for awhile.
Despite that, Erynn still rebuffs his attempts to get with her and he goes back to evil mode, their friendly relationship is cut(for the most part, they still keep going to the same school and probably run into each other there, but they aren't friends anymore).
Small addendum, these last 2 are just said by Erynn and no proof is given, i think most(not to say all) things she has said while having a heart to heart with the MC have been proven true and i see no reason not to believe her... but your mileage may vary.

Erynn meets a guy named Zane and starts dating him.
Somehow Ethan grabs a tape of Zane taking Erynn's V-card and uses this to blackmail her into going to prom with him(Zane scrams after this).

Erynn signs up to a modeling agency, a modeling agency that is owned by Ethan's father(failed to do your diligence idiot).
Ethan ends up becoming her agent.
Ethan and Erynn have an abusive relationship rather than professional or friendly.
Ethan uses the same sextape to force Erynn to do extra jobs for cash(for him), as of current events these seem restricted to posing and walking around rich men.
Ethan is also still not over her and still wants to bang her, promises to throw away the tape if she does that(fat chance).

Into more current events.
Ethan dislikes the fact that the MC is back in town and connected to Erynn again, according to him since he's been back Erynn has become a lot less compliant and feistier, he demands that she cuts of their relationship but she refuses.
So, first pic cannot be related to blackmail stuff. :unsure: What was it about then? They had a very lengthily conversation which was meant to be secret and Ethan was furious. Also must be too important for Erynn because she literally threatened Ethan over it.

Did Ethan grabbed a tape or did he recorded it? Iirc, he himself recorded it that means he needed an inside info about it. If Zane cameo from an another game, I don't think Nyx involve him too much. So it must be someone else? :unsure:
Too many missing point or we are missing a crucial point in the storyline.
 
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It seems there's a lack of name creativity in AVN as most characters have the same names as in other AVN anyways, the amount of times i saw a character named "Bella", "Ashley", "Katie" etc.. so not surprised there are other Zane around.

Now the questions :
- is Zane an asshole accomplice to Nathan or is he a victim (as he's on the sextape too) of Nathan the same as Erynn is.
If he's a victim it's odd the MC&gang never tried to contact that Zane guy, as he should be concerned by that blackmail stuff.
- is Nathan's father aware of how much of a piece of shit his son Nathan is ?
 

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So, first pic cannot be related to blackmail stuff. :unsure: What was it about then? They had a very lengthily conversation which was meant to be secret and Ethan was furious. Also must be too important for Erynn because she literally threatened Ethan over it.

Did Ethan grabbed a tape or did he recorded it? Iirc, he himself recorded it that means he needed an inside info about it. If Zane cameo from an another game, I don't think Nyx involve him too much. So it must be someone else? :unsure:
Too many missing point or we are missing a crucial point in the storyline.
No, whatever was said between them in the backyard doesn't concern the blackmail, Zane wasn't even in the picture until after the MC split from town.

How Ethan obtained the tape is still a mystery and so is Zane's identity, no signs of him being a cameo from a different game, just people joking(Nyx hasn't made any "interconnected universe" with any other developers so far).
The tape seems to be of "pristine quality", Erynn clearly recognizable, good audio and everything, so whoever filmed, did so from a pretty good position, if Ethan was behind the camera he must've had info(maybe it was Zane himself who filmed and shared).
My favorite theory is that he is the surfer dude that makes a pass on Nikki, but i have nothing to back that up.

It seems there's a lack of name creativity in AVN as most characters have the same names as in other AVN anyways, the amount of times i saw a character named "Bella", "Ashley", "Katie" etc.. so not surprised there are other Zane around.

Now the questions :
- is Zane an asshole accomplice to Nathan or is he a victim (as he's on the sextape too) of Nathan the same as Erynn is.
If he's a victim it's odd the MC&gang never tried to contact that Zane guy, as he should be concerned by that blackmail stuff.
- is Nathan's father aware of how much of a piece of shit his son Nathan is ?
We don't know if Zane shared his tape or said "i'm taking her to this house to bang her" to Ethan.
He may have been pals with Ethan before(Ethan ended up undercut him) or a victim.

According to Erynn, Ethan's father doesn't know what he makes her do and the methods he uses.
 
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We don't know if Zane shared his tape or said "i'm taking her to this house to bang her" to Ethan.
He may have been pals with Ethan before(Ethan ended up undercut him) or a victim.

According to Erynn, Ethan's father doesn't know what he makes her do and the methods he uses.
Ah so it's still a mystery, and interesting the father does not know of his son criminal ring.

About the sextape, apparently Erynn fears it most because its release would jeopardize the possible career as teacher she wants.
But unless i remember wrong, isn't Erynn having some "female escort" job for Nathan too ?
If that's the case she shouldn't worry much about the sextape anymore because she's then working on a job that has some blurry border with prostitution.
And regardless if Erynn went through that blurry border (that is sexual contact) for a client or not during her escort job, i doubt she would be hired as a teacher for kids anyways if people learn she was an escort.
 
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