VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Mr. Chatty]

It's been a few hours after 24 hours now lol

 

[mpror]

Could someone provide all the song titles this game has plz? I know it might be a bit much, but I ended up enjoying a couple of tracks and would like to add them to my library. Thx in advance

 

[Mr. Chatty]

Art should terrify.

In the eyes of most people it's the more straightforward acts of brutality. Raptus and BH for example has the MC just physically beating the shit out of people.

By the way you are stating this Seems like you are terrified by beating the Shit out of people, your statement, make these titles a piece of art.

I prefer psychological torture. Any brute can stick a cattle prod in someone's ass.

So seems like the problem for you is the way "senseless" cruelty is presented and not "senseless" cruelty itself because if I am not wrong beating the Shit out of some one is way better than killing anyone in any way, seems like you are into torture before murdering someone and not beating them (in a game of course). Anyway all discussed titles contain "senseless" cruelty and not just BHH and Raptus, I would even say KG contains more raw cruelty than both of these.

do you think the program participants are willingly partaking in these activities? Let alone the literal slaves? There's rape everywhere in this game. Just because it has a velvet glove over it doesn't mean it isn't an iron gauntlet.

Again it's the representation that makes something rape other wise half of the porn industry is creating rape porn.

More specifically, sexual coercion refers to penetrative sexual contacts through verbal pressure, whereas rape involves sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration through physical force.

So yeah KG Clearly doesn't contain rape for the reasons I have already mentioned.

 

[tuskedkibbles]

By the way you are stating this Seems like you are terrified by beating the Shit out of people, your statement, make these titles a piece of art.



So seems like the problem for you is the way "senseless" cruelty is presented and not "senseless" cruelty itself because if I am not wrong beating the Shit out of some one is way better than killing anyone in any way, seems like you are into torture before murdering someone and not beating them (in a game of course). Anyway all discussed titles contain "senseless" cruelty and not just BHH and Raptus, I would even say KG contains more raw cruelty than both of these.


Again it's the representation that makes something rape other wise half of the porn industry is creating rape porn.

More specifically, sexual coercion refers to penetrative sexual contacts through verbal pressure, whereas rape involves sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration through physical force.

So yeah KG Clearly doesn't contain rape for the reasons I have already mentioned.

We should close this out. Don't want to clog the thread.

Essentially, I find brute force violence to be dull and uninspired, regardless of what game it's in. KG has it too.

When I say 'art', I'm not talking about KG as a whole or any other game. 'Art' means psychological torture. When I say 'senseless', I'm not saying it in a bleeding heart sense. I mean it in more of a 'why bother with barbarism when there are better options' kind of way. Also, yes. It should go without saying that no one should ever actually torture someone, physically or mentally. That's morally abhorrent. Leave it to videogames/books.

If you want more explanation/discussion, just PM me. Don't want Mavi getting mad at me for clogging. He'll deny it, but I'm pretty sure he has the ability to smite the unworthy.

 

[ab5580ab]

Could someone tell me where is the savedata in windows computer?

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Juliette is a lightweight. All brute force, no nuance. Sam and Mercy are just rabid dogs. They want to immediately bite into everything they see. Juliette may not be rabid, but a well trained dog that can sit and wait is still a dog.

For example, the boat scene. Juliette thinks that's evil? I'm not even a sadist, but the first time I played that scene, literally within seconds, not even taking time to think about it, I would have suggested the following to her;

Make the guy fuck his sister while the girlfriend is on the machine. Whichever one (girlfriend on the machine or the guy) finishes last, gets dunked for 2 minutes. Then, the real fun starts.

The guy has to pick one of the girls. Whichever one he chooses will be free to go, not just from the ship, but from the Karlsson Group entirely. Hell, she'll even be set up in Cape Town with a reasonably cushy life. Whichever one he chooses to condemn, he has to choke with his bare hands. If he refuses, all three of them die. Whether that be through pain lvl10 or a more creative method (realistically in game it would just be the pain lvl, I doubt Tess is giving the player a potato peeler). Obviously he'll do it in order to save whichever one he loves more, and to his understanding, to save himself as well.

Then comes my favorite part! After the unlucky lady is dead, inform the other girl that she is indeed free to go. As soon as she drowns the guy. His conditions were made clear, but I never specified what the girl's conditions were. Once again, the alternative is torture to death. She drowns the guy, and VOILA! She's free to go! After all, I'm a man of my word. Have Mercy take her back, politely remind her to keep her experiences to herself, and send her on her way to enjoy her new lifestyle.

Now of course, that's just temporary. Can't have company property running around, can we? Have one of the staff assigned to wherever the girl is sent. Make sure they work together, become survivor girl's friend, earn her trust. Wait until she's finally starting to move on. The nightmares aren't as common, maybe she's found a nice guy. Once that has happened, bring our little lost lamb home. Maybe even have her beloved bestfriend and brother/lover waiting for her! Or whatever is left at that point I suppose.

Like I said. Juliette is a dog with a bone. She has no appreciation for art.

Death should never be quick. It should be an opera.

Id argue that your scenario while intriguing will not get you what you want. If anything I believe the final 2 knowing that they are in dire circumstances will fight thereby denying the audience the pleasure that they seek. Cant possibly see the last girl not snapping in this scenario. At that point you're putting down a rabid dog which is no fun

 

[BurgRoyce]

Could someone provide all the song titles this game has plz? I know it might be a bit much, but I ended up enjoying a couple of tracks and would like to add them to my library. Thx in advance

You can find all KG's music in yourgamefolder/game/music

Episode 7's ending (my fave one), is alle222.

 

[BurgRoyce]

Could someone tell me where is the savedata in windows computer?

Yourgamefolder/game/saves

 

[FinrayB]

You know?.. Ive followed and loved this game from the very beginning... still do. BUT when playing as sub Kane in particular, I would love the option to just say something to the girls along the lines of : 'You know what?... Im done with all you crazy bitches!' (spread out my arms and say) 'Do your worst! and see you in hell!'. Defiantly something my real self would do if i were in that position haha.
Edit: Just being able to talk back and piss them off even more would do wonders for immersion IMO

 

[Stan5851]

We should close this out. Don't want to clog the thread.

Essentially, I find brute force violence to be dull and uninspired, regardless of what game it's in. KG has it too.

When I say 'art', I'm not talking about KG as a whole or any other game. 'Art' means psychological torture. When I say 'senseless', I'm not saying it in a bleeding heart sense. I mean it in more of a 'why bother with barbarism when there are better options' kind of way. Also, yes. It should go without saying that no one should ever actually torture someone, physically or mentally. That's morally abhorrent. Leave it to videogames/books.

If you want more explanation/discussion, just PM me. Don't want Mavi getting mad at me for clogging. He'll deny it, but I'm pretty sure he has the ability to smite the unworthy.

I think you must know something about the person you are replying to in such detail. From his very first post in this thread, this MrChatty acted like a troll, and trying to reply to him in a polite and detailed manner (like you do) got him nowhere. He just started slinging mud at the developer and the game and continued to do so until his posts were deleted by a Moderator. His behaviour remains toxic, which is why many of us who chat here on a regular basis, including Maviarab, blacklisted this person long ago.

 

[chiraf4]

You know how many different variable paths and routes there are right?

Take you 10-15 mins tops to speed run through whatever path you want. Also for the record as your mother obviously never taught you, a please wouldn't go amiss either.

1. Actually My whole game is on my external hard disk which i have to find as i am in middle of shifting from one place to another.
2. And for the please thing. I missed it while i was typing and i already posted it. Then i forgot to edit it.
3. Just Give me top K level save. Just want to play it.

 

[Mr. Chatty]

You know how many different variable paths and routes there are right?

Take you 10-15 mins tops to speed run through whatever path you want. Also for the record as your mother obviously never taught you, a please wouldn't go amiss either.

Did your mother taught you to not involve anyone's mother when you are talking to them about what they have done?

Obviously never

 

[Cirelc]

Well there's at least one whole scene with Celeste added....

Sancho also mentioned there are some variable changes also no?

Celeste scene is on the sub path and not on the dom path. DoverUK spoke about the dom paths.

 

[Maviarab]

He'll deny it, but I'm pretty sure he has the ability to smite the unworthy.

You can find all KG's music in yourgamefolder/game/music

Episode 7's ending (my fave one), is alle222.

Thanks Burg, beat me to it...and yes that's a great track.

You know?.. Ive followed and loved this game from the very beginning... still do. BUT when playing as sub Kane in particular, I would love the option to just say something to the girls along the lines of : 'You know what?... Im done with all you crazy bitches!' (spread out my arms and say) 'Do your worst! and see you in hell!'. Defiantly something my real self would do if i were in that position haha.
Edit: Just being able to talk back and piss them off even more would do wonders for immersion IMO

Might be fun...but not the mindset of a submissive who does not believe they are worthy...would be completely out of context. Jake...yes...Kane...no.

Celeste scene is on the sub path and not on the dom path. DoverUK spoke about the dom paths.

Ahh that wasn't obvious to me..thanks.

 

[Sharpshooter890]

You know?.. Ive followed and loved this game from the very beginning... still do. BUT when playing as sub Kane in particular, I would love the option to just say something to the girls along the lines of : 'You know what?... Im done with all you crazy bitches!' (spread out my arms and say) 'Do your worst! and see you in hell!'. Defiantly something my real self would do if i were in that position haha.
Edit: Just being able to talk back and piss them off even more would do wonders for immersion IMO

That's what I was thinking as well (on a sub path only, of course). Kane has been treated like shit (evil Olivia ftw) and saw how Seth was abused, and yet he never even has an option to speak out in defiance. Well, that's not exactly true - he can be a little passive-agressive towards Olivia, but he never shows any real defiance and doesn't even have inner thoughts about killing Olivia.
Granted, maybe he enjoys being a worthless slave and really is too much of a pussy to have a backbone, but an option for him to reflect in his thoughts on his current predicament would go a long way, imho. Something like: "Do I like how Olivia treats me?" and "My sister is truly gone, only Darth Olivia remains. I'll try to find a way to end her for what she did to us (me and Seth)".
Wish he could find his inner Spartacus and make Rome tremble! Burn them all!

Even on the dom path such inner thoughts would add to the immersion and help shape our protagonist, give him some agency.

 

[Maviarab]

Darth Olivia

Come...my queen....

 

[FinrayB]

That's what I was thinking as well (on a sub path only, of course). Kane has been treated like shit (evil Olivia ftw) and saw how Seth was abused, and yet he never even has an option to speak out in defiance. Well, that's not exactly true - he can be a little passive-agressive towards Olivia, but he never shows any real defiance and doesn't even have inner thoughts about killing Olivia.
Granted, maybe he enjoys being a worthless slave and really is too much of a pussy to have a backbone, but an option for him to reflect in his thoughts on his current predicament would go a long way, imho. Something like: "Do I like how Olivia treats me?" and "My sister is truly gone, only Darth Olivia remains. I'll try to find a way to end her for what she did to us (me and Seth)".
Wish he could find his inner Spartacus and make Rome tremble! Burn them all!

Even on the dom path such inner thoughts would add to the immersion and help shape our protagonist, give him some agency.

Yea for sure, I agree except for the "maybe he wants to be a worthless slave part". That is why I wish tess would have implemented more choices for that.
Oh and for me... I was thinking more along the lines of Maximus's type of defiance from Gladiator haha. But Spartacus is good too
'Are you not entertained!...Bitches!' lol

 

[Sharpshooter890]

Yea for sure, I agree except for the "maybe he wants to be a worthless slave part". That is why I wish tess would have implemented more choices for that.
Oh and for me... I was thinking more along the lines of Maximus's type of defiance from Gladiator haha. But Spartacus is good too
'Are you not entertained!...Bitches!' lol
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Slave Kane on a vengeance tour across the joy Facility.

 

[Maviarab]

Slave Kane on a vengeance tour across the joy Facility.
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I was thinking more along the lines of one Sean Bean's many roles

 

[Sharpshooter890]

I was thinking more along the lines of one Sean Bean's many roles

Spartacus dies in the end, his rebellion fails. Spoilers, I guess.
So, just like Sean Bean.