VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.1 Part I] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Maviarab]

But let's say that Veronica is indeed behind everything and she's just manipulating everyone to suit her goals

She is.

Before the meeting with Elena and Yvette, only she and Callista knew the details of the Gambit (and how much each of them knows is open to interpretation). Currently, as far as we are aware, only those four currently know (though Yvette and Elena only know what Veronica shared...and I suspect Olivia knows). So she is very much manipulating everyone...whether by design of the Gambit or intention.

As you say, Island 4 a secret. Astrid...a secret. the Gambit...secret....she holds...all the cards. Dominique is suspecting Kanes real importance (and no she never cheats or tried to get pregnant, no idea where you got that from, the cum scene was so she could test it (and that scene and the scene with Eolise are both optional btw)).

Veronica knows everything....anyone else knows what she chooses to tell them.

 

[YuNobi1]

While interesting, I never got the impression Alesandra 'sent' Pat after anyone. I don't particulary think Pat was any part of Alessa's plan to two sisters fighting.

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What I do find strange is that Alessandra said that despite her best efforts from the shadows, she's failed to get the animosity going, but there hasn't been any indication that she's been doing anything outside of escorting Olivia, and influencing (or fucking) Kane.

Like I said, I don't see cold calculating Veronica getting to "murderous rage" outside of a legitimate threat on Astrid. ... Of course Nadia shattering her illusion of absolute control seems to have really pissed her off, so maybe some greater upset against the Control Freak would put her over the edge, and yeah, only Dominique has the resources to pull that off.

I feel to say they "dislike each other" is an overstatement, more like they have "an uncomfortable working relationship" that looks to have been stronger once upon a time, as demonstrated in both the Restoration Project and the secret N.O.A.H. project, which is why Dominique was certain she had Veronica's support in the Gambit. However, Dominique's attitude when challenging Veronica's support decision, and her expression after Veronica gives her response, shows the Dominique feels both hurt and betrayed by Veronica, thus the relationship is damaged. However, Dominique, as she is constantly reminded, is not Alexander, so a single slight or betrayal is not enough to launch her on the warpath, but I do suspect a second betrayal, or discovering evidence of everything Veronica has been doing that will bar Dominique's chance of victory, can send her over the edge.

It's even possible that Alessandra's earlier attempt WAS leaking the evidence of Veronica's favoritism to Dominique, who instead took the measured path: convince Juliette, confront Veronica.

 

[drisarter]

That is indeed what my first hunch was but we narrowed that out I believe (I had him check for file Write permissions). I'll flag drisarter here just in case. Thanks bud.

Thanks for this and to you Silver_Crow117. I did what you suggested in the terminal (and also to the renpy launcher app as I'm loading the KG app using that) but it is still giving the same error. I suspect this is no surprise (as I think what you suggested was just designed to set the write permissions, which we'd already checked?)

I've tried again to enable developer mode / access the console so I can get you the information you needed Sancho and the methods I'm attempting don't seem to work? I tried to follow the various methods outlined here:

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And neither the developer mode nor the console will open when I press Shift+D, Shift+O, etc.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Why does everybody think a ticket to the island keeps people in check? The way I understand it, the only people who know of the island's true purpose are Astrid and Veronica. Nadia probably learned of its existence, and leveraged said knowledge into a meeting with Kane but I doubt that Cynthia knows anything about said island. Definitely not enough to keep her in check. I assume she's behaving herself because dumb ass Callista gave them a valuable hostage and they dare not make a move for fear of what happens to Kane.

Good thing ole mother of the year let her son in on her dumb assed plan of putting him in said gambit to unite the families... wait.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

What I do find strange is that Alessandra said that despite her best efforts from the shadows, she's failed to get the animosity going, but there hasn't been any indication that she's been doing anything outside of escorting Olivia, and influencing (or fucking) Kane.

Like I said, I don't see cold calculating Veronica getting to "murderous rage" outside of a legitimate threat on Astrid. ... Of course Nadia shattering her illusion of absolute control seems to have really pissed her off, so maybe some greater upset against the Control Freak would put her over the edge, and yeah, only Dominique has the resources to pull that off.

I feel to say they "dislike each other" is an overstatement, more like they have "an uncomfortable working relationship" that looks to have been stronger once upon a time, as demonstrated in both the Restoration Project and the secret N.O.A.H. project, which is why Dominique was certain she had Veronica's support in the Gambit. However, Dominique's attitude when challenging Veronica's support decision, and her expression after Veronica gives her response, shows the Dominique feels both hurt and betrayed by Veronica, thus the relationship is damaged. However, Dominique, as she is constantly reminded, is not Alexander, so a single slight or betrayal is not enough to launch her on the warpath, but I do suspect a second betrayal, or discovering evidence of everything Veronica has been doing that will bar Dominique's chance of victory, can send her over the edge.

It's even possible that Alessandra's earlier attempt WAS leaking the evidence of Veronica's favoritism to Dominique, who instead took the measured path: convince Juliette, confront Veronica.

I imagine at the moment Alessandra is just nudging, she's likely being careful of having anything traced back to her so a suggestion here, a suggestion there and hopefully the sisters anger reaches a critical boiling point. She's now likely using Pat to ramp shit up. I imagine through her reports to Veronica that were established in chapter 2

 

[YuNobi1]

... Callista gave them a valuable hostage...

... Crap! That's probably where #7 is... which explains #7's absence at the most critical time in KG's history, why Elena/Veronica are even allowing these audiences with Kane at all, and likely why KG has "invited" DS at this vulnerable time.

At this point I would not be surprised if #7 is ANOTHER secret sister (Olivia was revealed in Ep. 4-5, Astrid in 6-7), MAYBE a mother. Either way, it's nobody we've met yet.

 

[DangleDing]

SisTeam is only relevent in terms of Kane 'aligning' with Olivia's goals and intentions. Olivia wants to take over the Karlsson Group, so basically, do you have her back on that objective? Conversely, while on this topic, SisBro is relevent in how much Olivia has Kanes back in the program. Does she want to keep her eye out for him. While we're also on the topic of the two main characters, while the PrincessEyes variable come from nearly all Kane choices, they are actually an Olivia variable in how Olivia views Kane, not the other way around (and in ep.8, the WorthySon points are actually Elena points, even though again, it's Kane who 'chooses' the points). Just to make sure you're clear on all that.

SisSub currently has no effect other than how she reacts to events and people around her in terms of choices affecting events within the Joy Facility and mainly the board members. Whether it has a longer term effect in terms of how Olivia interacts with Kane, we shall have to wait and see, hopefully though it will or my KaneDom/SisSub save will be pointless lol.

As for dom/sub Kane...well, two completely very different paths, completely. One is a pathetic simp loser (sorry...sorry sub guys hahahaha) and the other starts to take control of his life and move upo the 'corporate' ladder. Two completely different paths. Though go back a page and you will find my notes on the SubK5+ route, which starts as a sub and becomes a dom path but Kane stays sexually submissive.

On each path, Dom or Sub you will miss roughly half of the content of the VN basically. Each path is unique other than world events that everyone sees. As fpor do/don't suggestions, I would personally recommend trying to start as a K6 Good/Dom...get MeetDominique points (do not get more than 1 MeetVeronica points), get her sponsorship immediately and be sure to keep Junko's Romance Open, she will fast-track you to K7 (what you do and with who matters not after this) so can end Ep.07 at K9 (which should end you as a K10/M1 at the end of 8Part3). That would be my advised recommended first save. With Good/Dom/IOlivia as a LI (as think this is pretty obviously the cannon route).


No offence dude...but have you any idea how many variables, points, flags and different choices can be made in this? I'm guessing not and you're just lazy and want other folk to do everything for you. If you had perhaps said, does anyone have a save with x, y, z, and ab flagged, I might have be inclined to help you...

It will take 10 to 15 mins to skip through the content to create an end of 0.7Final save. I suggest you do that, and maybe a please wouldn't go amiss next time either.

also I get being courteous but how am I supposed to fit please into this sentence? "does anyone have any of the female dom path saves at the end of the last version?" I'll just say does anyone please have any of the female dom path saves at the end of the last version? Doesn't make much sense does it

That wasn't Veronica. Read Alexander's dialogue again...carefully.

    ak "You are such a brilliant mind. Shining far more than I even though you hide it very well."
    xx "I know what you truly want Father. I will do it, if it is a worthy choice."
    ak "I know...I am glad too. I knew you truly understood me deep down."
    ak "...So brilliant, but I worried as I taught you that you were not willing to do what was necessary to control your fate."
    ak "But only now as I look into your eyes...*cough*...truly only right now do I actually see you as I die..."
    ak "I understand now and I see your real brilliance because you even fooled me didn't you?"
    xx "Yes, Father."

Does that really sound like he's talking to Veronica? If hoowever you meant Red Tips Mask....then yes that is Veronica and confirmed in Ep8.



You're welcome, glad got it sorted


Because if you actually realised how many different paths and variables/flags there are you'd realise what you're asking for with no context is ridiculous, without giving details of exactly what path you want and decisions made. This is one of the reasons there is no 'choose decisions' at the start of Ep.8.


Yeah this is my thinking also, has to be a Gambit issue...as discussed with Miles yesterday, can't personally see any reason for it anymore given his situation (especially on the sub path..like, what's he gonna do about this information? Nothing).

I know how many different paths and variables there are, I played through the previous version like I said, i wasn't asking for a specific path because I dont know what paths people have saved and im fine with receiving any save someone might have as long as its on a femdom path

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

... Crap! That's probably where #7 is... which explains #7's absence at the most critical time in KG's history, why Elena/Veronica are even allowing these audiences with Kane at all, and likely why KG has "invited" DS at this vulnerable time.

At this point I would not be surprised if #7 is ANOTHER secret sister (Olivia was revealed in Ep. 4-5, Astrid in 6-7), MAYBE a mother. Either way, it's nobody we've met yet.

wth are you talking about?

 

[Jacowboy]

Why does everybody think a ticket to the island keeps people in check? The way I understand it, the only people who know of the island's true purpose are Astrid and Veronica. Nadia probably learned of its existence, and leveraged said knowledge into a meeting with Kane but I doubt that Cynthia knows anything about said island. Definitely not enough to keep her in check. I assume she's behaving herself because dumb ass Callista gave them a valuable hostage and they dare not make a move for fear of what happens to Kane.

Good thing ole mother of the year let her son in on her dumb assed plan of putting him in said gambit to unite the families... wait.

Wut? it's not "people", just Nadia. And, btw, maybe it's not even a bribe, Vernoica says they've made an agreement... so who knows.

Cynthia is keeping quiet for other reasons, most likely... And no, I don't think it's fear for Kane's safetly, au contraire, I think Cynthia also wants Kane to succeed so a dekock rises to power... remeber, she knows Cole is alive and is about to rescue him, so having Kane rise up within the KG, and then reveal what they did to his dad would basically turn him to their side... it's probably more of a strategic move.

 

[YuNobi1]

wth are you talking about?

You had conjectured that Callista gave the DeKocks a hostage, and Board Member #7 has been absent the entire game, but in a way that Yvette is determined to keep an absolute secret, so he/she is clearly not "just busy". During this vulnerable time for the company (as described in the Phoebe-Yvette-Elena scene), this is the worst time for a key decision-maker to be absent, and to allow your enemies inside one of your secret facilities (and the most important one for determining your company's future), yet both cases are the status.

Why? What would possess the Board to invite DS at this time? DS leveraging a hostage would certainly make sense, and KG counters with Kane as their own hostage (as Cole is secret even from the Board), thus DS limits their maneuvers to not jeopardize Kane. Cole, Callista, and Astrid cannot be Board Member #7 as their living status are official secrets from other Board members, neither is any of Phoebe's family, nor the DeKocks, else they would have been identified at the Welcome Party, so #7 must be someone we haven't met yet. A kidnapped Board member is definitely not something Yvette will openly admit has occurred, even in front of the perpetrators (look to Cynthia for example: who never accuses KG of holding Cole prisoner, even though she knows they are, instead arranges to locate/rescue him without their knowledge). It’s possible, one of the motivators for Callista faking her death was to be able to pull off the kidnapping. ... perhaps #7 is even Callista's/Cynthia's source for discovering that Cole was alive and still imprisoned (Nadia should have stumbled across his location before realizing he was alive if hacking was the information source).

 

[Sharpshooter890]

The big problem with this particular type of storytelling (the 'Mystery Box' technique, fuck you Jar-Jar Abrams) is that the fan theories usually turn out to be much more coherent and interesting than what the writer eventually presents (or sometimes parts of the story are just dropped altogether), and that just kills your investment in the story. In the end, you're frustrated and eventually become resentful of the IP (I know I have with Star Wars).

So far we've had a lot of mystery boxes in KG, some of them were obvious from the moment they were set up (Olivia's parentage, Red Mask's identity (I fucking told you guys!)) and we got fairly satisfactory revelation scenes. However, plenty more mysteries remain (7th Board member, who's Luke, the Braclet thing etc) and I hope we will get good answers to those in the next few updates, because these mystery boxes can and will outstay their welcome by the end of, say, ep.10. By that time we should be in the Endgame, actively working towards the goal of our choice, not childishly fumbling in the dark looking for answers.

 

[YuNobi1]

The big problem with this particular type of storytelling (the 'Mystery Box' technique, fuck you Jar-Jar Abrams) is that the fan theories usually turn out to be much more coherent and interesting than what the writer eventually presents (or sometimes parts of the story are just dropped altogether), and that just kills your investment in the story. In the end, you're frustrated and eventually become resentful of the IP (I know I have with Star Wars).

So far we've had a lot of mystery boxes in KG, some of them were obvious from the moment they were set up (Olivia's parentage, Red Mask's identity (I fucking told you guys!)) and we got fairly satisfactory revelation scenes. However, plenty more mysteries remain (7th Board member, who's Luke, the Braclet thing etc) and I hope we will get good answers to those in the next few updates, because these mystery boxes can and will outstay their welcome by the end of, say, ep.10. By that time we should be in the Endgame, actively working towards the goal of our choice, not childishly fumbling in the dark looking for answers.

I would say the end of Ep. 8 should signal the start of the mystery reveals, with the Gameshow weeding out the chaff/solidifying Kane's fate (eternal slave, K9 cap, or K10+), Callista showing herself inside KG, and Cole now free, the "clock" can't be delayed any longer, things have to start ticking away.

I just wish we had more time to play with Pod W2.

 

[Maviarab]

What I do find strange is that Alessandra said that despite her best efforts from the shadows, she's failed to get the animosity going, but there hasn't been any indication that she's been doing anything outside of escorting Olivia, and influencing (or fucking) Kane.

Like I said, I don't see cold calculating Veronica getting to "murderous rage" outside of a legitimate threat on Astrid. ... Of course Nadia shattering her illusion of absolute control seems to have really pissed her off, so maybe some greater upset against the Control Freak would put her over the edge, and yeah, only Dominique has the resources to pull that off.

I feel to say they "dislike each other" is an overstatement, more like they have "an uncomfortable working relationship" that looks to have been stronger once upon a time, as demonstrated in both the Restoration Project and the secret N.O.A.H. project, which is why Dominique was certain she had Veronica's support in the Gambit. However, Dominique's attitude when challenging Veronica's support decision, and her expression after Veronica gives her response, shows the Dominique feels both hurt and betrayed by Veronica, thus the relationship is damaged. However, Dominique, as she is constantly reminded, is not Alexander, so a single slight or betrayal is not enough to launch her on the warpath, but I do suspect a second betrayal, or discovering evidence of everything Veronica has been doing that will bar Dominique's chance of victory, can send her over the edge.

It's even possible that Alessandra's earlier attempt WAS leaking the evidence of Veronica's favoritism to Dominique, who instead took the measured path: convince Juliette, confront Veronica.

I imagine at the moment Alessandra is just nudging, she's likely being careful of having anything traced back to her so a suggestion here, a suggestion there and hopefully the sisters anger reaches a critical boiling point. She's now likely using Pat to ramp shit up. I imagine through her reports to Veronica that were established in chapter 2

Ceretainly possibilities...

At this point I would not be surprised if #7 is ANOTHER secret sister (Olivia was revealed in Ep. 4-5, Astrid in 6-7), MAYBE a mother. Either way, it's nobody we've met yet.

I've long suspected there could be yet another sister....or the missing mother of Alessa and Jules (who has not been mentioned, ever).

The big problem with this particular type of storytelling (the 'Mystery Box' technique, fuck you Jar-Jar Abrams) is that the fan theories usually turn out to be much more coherent and interesting than what the writer eventually presents (or sometimes parts of the story are just dropped altogether), and that just kills your investment in the story. In the end, you're frustrated and eventually become resentful of the IP (I know I have with Star Wars).

Fair points indeed SS.

I just wish we had more time to play with Pod W2.

Yeah...that could have been some fun interaction...we've actually only had one 'training' session....and considering Angelica (T2 romance) is still only a K4...and the board have high hopes for her....she going to have to have a spectacular rise up the ranks in just a few episodes...very much like DomKane does.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

The big problem with this particular type of storytelling (the 'Mystery Box' technique, fuck you Jar-Jar Abrams) is that the fan theories usually turn out to be much more coherent and interesting than what the writer eventually presents (or sometimes parts of the story are just dropped altogether), and that just kills your investment in the story. In the end, you're frustrated and eventually become resentful of the IP (I know I have with Star Wars).

So far we've had a lot of mystery boxes in KG, some of them were obvious from the moment they were set up (Olivia's parentage, Red Mask's identity (I fucking told you guys!)) and we got fairly satisfactory revelation scenes. However, plenty more mysteries remain (7th Board member, who's Luke, the Braclet thing etc) and I hope we will get good answers to those in the next few updates, because these mystery boxes can and will outstay their welcome by the end of, say, ep.10. By that time we should be in the Endgame, actively working towards the goal of our choice, not childishly fumbling in the dark looking for answers.

It's only a problem if Tess has her very own Rian Johnson writing behind her to fuck her writing up. So far her reveals have been good and coherent it's when we start running into dead ends that they'll become problematic.

Wut? it's not "people", just Nadia. And, btw, maybe it's not even a bribe, Vernoica says they've made an agreement... so who knows.

Cynthia is keeping quiet for other reasons, most likely... And no, I don't think it's fear for Kane's safetly, au contraire, I think Cynthia also wants Kane to succeed so a dekock rises to power... remeber, she knows Cole is alive and is about to rescue him, so having Kane rise up within the KG, and then reveal what they did to his dad would basically turn him to their side... it's probably more of a strategic move.

People, person bad word choice changes nothing about what I said. Which is that few people know of the island's existence and 2 (maybe 3 depending on how far along Nadia got), know of its true intention.

Cynthia's only going along with that current plan now because she has no choice since it was sprung on her. I don't imagine she planned to send someone untrained into a gambit on the one-in-a-million chance that he's dominant enough to rise to the top and that he'll believe actual strangers when they reveal what happened. If she's not keeping Callista at arm's length, then she's a big dummy especially since it's obvious ole girls playing both sides. If Kane is on the sub-path, Cynthia's definitely more worried about trying to keep him safe.

 

[Bulletproof 2301]

Anyone know when is the Android version coming?

 

[Maviarab]

Anyone know when is the Android version coming?

 

[YuNobi1]

Anyone know when is the Android version coming?

Just surrender and realize Android will always be broken with this game, and do it on PC... I had to do that with Ep. 5.

 

[Fred52]

someone pls explain how to use sanchomod on this game

 

[Maviarab]

someone pls explain how to use sanchomod on this game

Open the SanchoMod zip...copy everything into the 'game' folder (located where the Karlsson's Gambit exe is). Done. (note there is a diff version mod for Ep1-7 and Ep8).

 

[sgenter]

What is the highest K rating the MC can achieve playing up to and through Episode 8?

Max I've been able to achieve is K7 so far for 6 play through's.