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Alig8r

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Hey, I called it - the return of this game from the dead waay back in a post from Oct!! Post 2622 (More in hope, than foresight tbf :LOL:)

3Diddlyf95zone welcome back. For the reasons described in the linked post above, I regard this game as one of the best in the femprotag corruption genre so I am glad that it got finished, however winding the road may have been. I actually didn't find this game before it was abandoned so I don't know what went down between the community leading up to it. If I were to hazard a guess (based on the flak on other devs for doing so), it's venturing off to start new games - like Wifey and Leela's Awakening - prior to finishing this one and causing increasing release delays.

Anyways, if you are committed to focusing on "Sugar Baby Galore" and it's in a genre and I style I like, I for one wouldn't be adverse to being a patreon.

GL with the new game.
how much of it is blackmail/coercion vs the fem protag making slutty decisions?
 

Venoma

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Well, most people seem to agree with me. ;) Just compare: this game has 141 pages of discussion, GGGB has 708. The rating is 3.5 and 4.5 respectively. And the number of supporters Eva has is amazing."Cartoon'y" art, as you called it, is very subjective, but numbers are not so much.
First off overall comparison ratings presented in a rough manner like that doesn't really mean squat on a site like this. Especially when most people are just casually giving 5's by default choice. Stick around long enough, cater to a certain fetish that attracts a decent amount of people, and the much larger amount of people leaving reviews these days that like the game are 5'ing it.

Secondly, of course the page #'s are heavily in GGGB's favor. This game stopped pushing updates and got abandoned forever ago, and that one was pushing out updates until less then 2 month ago.

Thirdly and as I initially implied, I agree the people who actually enjoyed that cartoon'y art of the game boiled down a subjective taste factor. But I would also argue that a lot of the popularity it saw and maintained over time after that was due more to that early timing combined with the overall lack of alternative options for the fetish (especially something not on rgpm) more so then people preferring that over this or him doing anything on a "far superior level". That same formula from scratch wouldn't be anywhere near as successful today, and definitely isn't the blueprint path to follow for whatever ends up being the next great female MC corruption game imo (well, one that understands massive grind for the sake of massive grind still sucks regardless how good the renders and/or animations are).
 
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3Diddlyf95zone Welcome back ^^ it's nice to see you again !
Thank you for the end of Katie, one of my first (and best) NTR game !

About your next projects, do they take place in the same universe as Katie's corruption and Hannah's Corruption or not ? (the universe and the characters were nice after all so I'm curious ^^)
 
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First off overall comparison ratings presented in a rough manner like that doesn't really mean squat on a site like this. Especially when most people are just casually giving 5's by default choice. Stick around long enough, cater to a certain fetish that attracts a decent amount of people, and the much larger amount of people leaving reviews these days that like the game are 5'ing it.
They mean squat because you say so?)) Those people who "casually giving 5's by default choice" are the same for the both games. Both games "stuck around" for roughly the same period of time (about 2 years of active development, KC was started earlier but was abandoned). And the games are quite similar from many points of view (female MC, corruption, blackmail, incest, ntr, VN and so on), so it's not like comparing apples and orages. Art, story, characters are quite subjective, but if you don't see the clear superiority of GGGB in terms of game mechanics and gameplay (the weakiest point of KC), well, there is nothing for me to say to you. Well, at least I hope that 3Diddly is able to see it, because it is the easiest way to impove his future games.
Thirdly and as I initially implied, I agree the people who actually enjoyed that cartoon'y art of the game boiled down a subjective taste factor. But I would also argue that a lot of the popularity it saw and maintained over time after that was due more to that early timing combined with the overall lack of alternative options for the fetish (especially something not on rgpm) more so then people preferring that over this or him doing anything on a "far superior level". That same formula from scratch wouldn't be anywhere near as successful today, and definitely isn't the blueprint path to follow for whatever ends up being the next great female MC corruption game imo (well, one that understands massive grind for the sake of massive grind still sucks regardless how good the renders and/or animations are).
You didn't get my message at all. I didn't propose to exactly copy anything, or for 3Diddly to change his "art style" to the "cartoon'y" one and so on. It is just among strong points, KC has obvious weak ones. The ones that were corrected in GGGB. It is just how it works - you keep your old good ideas, make up some new ones, but also look at other developers and see what they are doing great. If now 3Diddly is going to stick to what he was doing in 2017, it is most probably not going to be as popular as it was back then, because other developers has moved forward long ago.
 
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does anyone have a save from when it was abandoned or when katie was considering coming off the pill also was there routes i dont remember
 

Fred the Red

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Wait what the hell, this game got an update, and it's even completed? I deleted it a few weeks ago because I figured it was abandoned.
 

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Not persuading anyone. If people want to donate, they donate. If not, it's not a big deal. If you don't enjoy my work, no one is forcing you to play.
Thank you for your decision to back on this fantastic game..
I was playing this game every 2 months even it was unfinished.. because Katie is one of the beautiful Famale-MC ever
1) perfect body proportions and stunning face expressions
2) it is in 3D so it is much better than the 2D crappy renders of games such as GGGB by EvaKiss
3) the story is very interesting for an adult game
4) all characters are very good and in very good shape.

I will support you very soon in your new patreon hoping that you will start a new great project
I cannot do donation for now because i have lost my work due the lockdown event
but I'm sure that theworld will be back soon to a new restart so i will for sore support your Patreon


Thank you very much for your great work

good luck and crack the wolf
 

defd©™

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Wait what the hell, this game got an update, and it's even completed? I deleted it a few weeks ago because I figured it was abandoned.
Why deleting a game that was abandoned?
I understand if it was abandoned at version 0.02 but this game was enjoyable also in version 1.18
I have played this game about 2 mounts ago for the fourth times.
This is one of the game that i have put in the folder that is in my personal backup just to avoid the risk of accidental deleting

This is a game that i like to replay from time to time.
 

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Well, anyone who supports developers on Patreon is basically gifting money to them. Expecting a refund is quite naive. If you trusted some developer on Patreon and gave him money, and later that developer told his patrons to go fuck themselves, you have nobody to blame but yourself.
You know this kind of does not really make sense on what you are saying because, What you are saying is if you are "gifting" Dev's money on patreon and expecting a refund is naive. You are half right there, see Patreon is about supporting a Creator's Hobby and to motivate them or at least that is what we are supposed to believe.But the fact is a lot of creators specially the ones that make H Games do NOT do this for support a "Hobby" majority do this for a living or to earn some money on the side meaning a second job and in effect are not doing a hobby but a job. Because at the end of the day it comes down to 2 things if you want to play it "legitimately". You want the game ? You must become a patreon. You want to play the update every month you must have a pledge of 15+ so as to avoid a leak making creator lose money and in turn ( note not all of em and just making a general comparison here) get's their panties up a bunch.
If this is done as a hobby then the rules of patreon state you must hide spicy stuff behind a $1 paywall which is fine, but you would put the release of every update also on a 1$ paywall and or upload it to a website like this yourself, However when you are not doing that and are looking to make money then you put it high up there to get as much money which means you are putting a game out there and are making promises, if you can or can't keep em that is your fault as a creator and people are allowed to be skeptical and pissed about it if you stab em in the back.
For example games on Kickstarter ( or similar websites ) who started out with the promise of release on steam and ended up going epic exclusive ( no matter the intention or excuse ) and broke their promise deserved all the backlash they got and the faith their fans had in them being shattered is by any and all means warranted, so how is that any different from this ? From a Technical point of view one you would say those are 2 different situations and things however the fact is, both made a promise and both broke em, both are doing it out of sheer profit and not because of a hobby and good will. Dont even get me started on Kickstarters that got 5+ times their goals and abandoned their projects after.

Anyways, The point I am trying to make here is. The reason patreon is setup for is not what it is being used for so that money for some of those creators isnt a "gift" it is based on a promise.
Expecting refunds definitly is being naive true, The fact however you saying and I quote " later that developer told his patrons to go fuck themselves, you have nobody to blame but yourself. " Also very true. So expecting people to be angry mad and distrusted and very wary of that same Dev is all warranted as they have proven they cannot be trusted.
I will give this "Completed" Version a try however for those who say well at least we got a completed version of a 3Diddly game so gotta admit it feels good or whatever... WRONG, if the "completion" is merely a rushed end or a shitty end or a end just put a completed on the back of it while leaving many questions out it is STILL INCOMPLETE period and with that being said does not prove shit. Like most people though ill see how things turn out, his skills are proven I have no doubt in that, it's his weak stand on criticism and not being able to stay on point with long projects that have proven to be quite lacking. So in his case time will tell.
 
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