VN Ren'Py Completed Leap of Faith [Ch. 8 v1.0.3] [DriftyGames]

[talion777]

I have to admit now that the investment that people seem to have with Cece is becoming more intriguing. It leads me to wonder what people here consider to be the best or "happy" ending. If I was going to guess based on the little I know of you all so far I would guess that the ending with Cece and the MC together and her pregnant would top your lists. I find this interesting because then the happiness of the single character becomes more important than the overall group. The MC can be disregarded because he finishes happy no matter what, but the only ending where all characters are moving forward on a positive note is the Lexi/Holly ending. A Lexi solo or Holly solo leaves somebody and anything where Lexi isn't invomved leaves her sad and disappointed but putting a good face on it.

So, in an objective sense tbe "happy" ending should be the one that makes the most people happy, which would be the Lexi/Holly ending, and in most games that would be the case to but not here, I don't think. It's interesting.

 

[yagonew]

I have to admit now that the investment that people seem to have with Cece is becoming more intriguing. It leads me to wonder what people here consider to be the best or "happy" ending. If I was going to guess based on the little I know of you all so far I would guess that the ending with Cece and the MC together and her pregnant would top your lists. I find this interesting because then the happiness of the single character becomes more important than the overall group. The MC can be disregarded because he finishes happy no matter what, but the only ending where all characters are moving forward on a positive note is the Lexi/Holly ending. A Lexi solo or Holly solo leaves somebody and anything where Lexi isn't invomved leaves her sad and disappointed but putting a good face on it.

So, in an objective sense tbe "happy" ending should be the one that makes the most people happy, which would be the Lexi/Holly ending, and in most games that would be the case to but not here, I don't think. It's interesting.

Interestingl enough tho, my Cece ending was the least selfish one (actually the reason I loved it so much). Lexi + Holly = MC dirty secret, on my Cece run, Lexi ends up with Holly exactly the same, Linda ends up with Chris as it will ALWAYS be regardless of how many times I come back to this game, and Kira is still Robin's Batman as it should be too. The only character that ended up alone was Double O Steph (Couldn't care less.)

 

[cxx]

That's the girl from Belle's game, which name escapes me at the moment. Can you remind me please?

not girl, agewise she could be mc's grandgrand(few more)mother. she's leanan.

NO.

LIAR!!!

 

[talion777]

not girl, agewise she could be mc's grandgrand(few more)mother. she's leanan.



LIAR!!!

That was the prompt I needed. Long live the princess!

 

[talion777]

Interestingl enough tho, my Cece ending was the least selfish one (actually the reason I loved it so much). Lexi + Holly = MC dirty secret, on my Cece run, Lexi ends up with Holly exactly the same, Linda ends up with Chris as it will ALWAYS be regardless of how many times I come back to this game, and Kira is still Robin's Batman as it should be too. The only character that ended up alone was Double O Steph (Couldn't care less.)

Chris can't end up with Linda if you do.

 

[cxx]

Chris can't end up with Linda if you do.

he will have to find gf by himself then and not cee (not cece).

 

[yagonew]

Chris can't end up with Linda if you do.

Nope. Never going there. Linda is locked in Friendzone hell 4eva.

 

[Pisboom]

Man everything with cece really hit home... this should be just a game but man...

 

[talion777]

Nope. Never going there. Linda is locked in Friendzone hell 4eva.

C'mon, Linda needs love too....And she wants love..A lot of love. Often. Just play her path and see... You know you want to... Never mind Cece. She'll be fine.... Just like the other times. But Linda will be so much better if you just take her for a spin... So much spinning....

 

[cxx]

also sfw version of lof? while game would work as sfw it'd feel dumb since many scenes are sexual related like lexi and holly on yacht etc.

 

[yagonew]

If a game/song/book/movie/show can easily be shrugged off and fails to make you care about something, anything in it to the point were you keep thinking about it after it ends, in my opinion, they have completely failed their purpose. "just a ..." is slang for souless waste of time. //endsermon xD

C'mon, Linda needs love too....And she wants love..A lot of love. Often. Just play her path and see... You know you want to... Never mind Cece. She'll be fine.... Just like the other times. But Linda will be so much better if you just take her for a spin... So much spinning....

DONT. TEMPT. ME. FRODO BAGGINS!

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

LIAR!!!

NO NO NO.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

I have to admit now that the investment that people seem to have with Cece is becoming more intriguing. It leads me to wonder what people here consider to be the best or "happy" ending. If I was going to guess based on the little I know of you all so far I would guess that the ending with Cece and the MC together and her pregnant would top your lists. I find this interesting because then the happiness of the single character becomes more important than the overall group. The MC can be disregarded because he finishes happy no matter what, but the only ending where all characters are moving forward on a positive note is the Lexi/Holly ending. A Lexi solo or Holly solo leaves somebody and anything where Lexi isn't invomved leaves her sad and disappointed but putting a good face on it.

So, in an objective sense tbe "happy" ending should be the one that makes the most people happy, which would be the Lexi/Holly ending, and in most games that would be the case to but not here, I don't think. It's interesting.

It's really buging you, right?
Well, and since they all have feelings for the Mc, in the end you can't make them all happy anyway. No harem ending, here. And as in life, you can try to assess what the collateral damage will be the least important, by choosing path "A", rather than path B C or D, you still leave B, C, and D behind. So path A would be the one that makes B,C, and D less unhappy hoping that A is fully satisfied. This is typically altruistic reasoning, and very nice in theory, but completely flawed when it comes to feelings. The Mc is happy whatever path YOU choose, so if you choose according to this principle of fairness, it makes YOU, the player, the fifth wheel of the carriage. But looking more broadly, I think you're right about that. Why this craze for Cece? Probably we can feel the duty to help her and be by her side. Leaving her behind can cause feelings of guilt because she seems the most vulnerable.
There's also Linda who's really been in love with the Mc for a long time, but since you can hook her up with Chris, that might be an alternative for those who think the friend zone is a problem. Lexi has Holly, Kira has Robin and Steph made her choice by being a secret agent, although I feel sorry for her because she is left alone for having wanted to protect the life of the Mc.

But to tell the truth, and looking at the stats, there are a lot of people here who are making a choice that they wouldn't make, or haven't made in their real life, because the game allows an alternative that will perhaps compensate for the choice (s) they have made in reality, or simply as for many and myself to wonder: And if I had chosen this girl rather than that one..... And go on. It is said that well-ordered charity begins with oneself. Starting from this principle, we should start by being selfish, and think first of ourselves, to then become altruistic and think of others. After all, can't we make people happy only when we are happy ourselves?

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

Man everything with cece really hit home... this should be just a game but man...

It is! But hell yeah, it's a whole strong story we have here

 

[talion777]

It's really buging you, right?
Well, and since they all have feelings for the Mc, in the end you can't make them all happy anyway. No harem ending, here. And as in life, you can try to assess what the collateral damage will be the least important, by choosing path "A", rather than path B C or D, you still leave B, C, and D behind. So path A would be the one that makes B,C, and D less unhappy hoping that A is fully satisfied. This is typically altruistic reasoning, and very nice in theory, but completely flawed when it comes to feelings. The Mc is happy whatever path YOU choose, so if you choose according to this principle of fairness, it makes YOU, the player, the fifth wheel of the carriage. But looking more broadly, I think you're right about that. Why this craze for Cece? Probably we can feel the duty to help her and be by her side. Leaving her behind can cause feelings of guilt because she seems the most vulnerable.
There's also Linda who's really been in love with the Mc for a long time, but since you can hook her up with Chris, that might be an alternative for those who think the friend zone is a problem. Lexi has Holly, Kira has Robin and Steph made her choice by being a secret agent, although I feel sorry for her because she is left alone for having wanted to protect the life of the Mc.

But to tell the truth, and looking at the stats, there are a lot of people here who are making a choice that they wouldn't make, or haven't made in their real life, because the game allows an alternative that will perhaps compensate for the choice (s) they have made in reality, or simply as for many and myself to wonder: And if I had chosen this girl rather than that one..... And go on. It is said that well-ordered charity begins with oneself. Starting from this principle, we should start by being selfish, and think first of ourselves, to then become altruistic and think of others. After all, can't we make people happy only when we are happy ourselves?

Yes, you're right, ultimately you end up picking for the MC the girl you would pick because you're projecting yourself somewhat into the MC for purposes of the story. This is in large part why it confuses me so much. I guess we're all products of our history and preferences. It's fun to look at the different paths and see what would happen, but if it was you who would you choose for yourself?

I would not pick Cece if it was me because I simply wouldn't want to be looking over my shoulder my whole life worrying. That is particularly true if we were having a child. I have a young son and would be appalled to have in that kind of situation with someone who wasn't whole and fully comfortable with themself. Likewise Kira and Robin are really all about each other and I know there's paths for each (which I haven't done yet) but they've spent the whole story convincing us that they're for each other pretty much so I rule them out. Steph had her chance but blew it because she didn't trust you and left you hanging out to dry. Lexi is a toss up. She's still kind of a kid in a lot of ways but she'll grow out of that, and if she limited her public exposure and cut down on the touring that might be fine. For me personally I would hate the fame aspect. I like my privacy. That leaves Linda and Holly. So, you can argue either way on Linda. You can say that if anything was going to happen it should have by now, but there are also friendships that do grow into relationships as people realize that they're good for each other and they have good history together. MC liked Holly from the get go, was a great influence for him over the summer and seems stable, smart and great looking. Less history but more immediate chemistry. It seems like MC in a logical world should end up with one of these two (and Chris will take the other) with Lexi perhaps as a dark horse. Of course, emotions are intangible, but since I'm using mine I'm just going to run with that.

Now, to be clear I don't begrudge anyone their choice and preference. Everybody likes something different and variety is the spice of life. I totally understand choosing Cece and can see the attraction even as I see the downsides. What strikes me as odd is the unbalanced reaction of a large group of people leaning towards her. It seems to me that under normal circumstances the distribution should be wider and in my mind I'm trying to understand why that is. Really and truly the only one I would say is a flat no would be Steph, because she screwed MC over already and that colossal a screwup would be irreparable for me.

 

[Grif1001]

also sfw version of lof? while game would work as sfw it'd feel dumb since many scenes are sexual related like lexi and holly on yacht etc.

I know a number of people who could benefit from playing LOF but won't due to its "porn content". I know many teens who struggle with thoughts of suicide and also others who's friends have that struggle or have survived an attempt and they don't know how to respond to what their friend did or is going through, but you LEGALLY can't hand a 15 or 16 year old a porn game and say "Here, this might help."
You can make a game rated for teens and still have kissing, making out, sexual tension, and implied sex that isn't shown, and give a very similar feel to the game without the blatant porn parts.
Personally, I think a SFW version of LOF would be amazing.

 

[Grif1001]

Yes, you're right, ultimately you end up picking for the MC the girl you would pick because you're projecting yourself somewhat into the MC for purposes of the story. This is in large part why it confuses me so much. I guess we're all products of our history and preferences. It's fun to look at the different paths and see what would happen, but if it was you who would you choose for yourself?

I would not pick Cece if it was me because I simply wouldn't want to be looking over my shoulder my whole life worrying. That is particularly true if we were having a child. I have a young son and would be appalled to have in that kind of situation with someone who wasn't whole and fully comfortable with themself. Likewise Kira and Robin are really all about each other and I know there's paths for each (which I haven't done yet) but they've spent the whole story convincing us that they're for each other pretty much so I rule them out. Steph had her chance but blew it because she didn't trust you and left you hanging out to dry. Lexi is a toss up. She's still kind of a kid in a lot of ways but she'll grow out of that, and if she limited her public exposure and cut down on the touring that might be fine. For me personally I would hate the fame aspect. I like my privacy. That leaves Linda and Holly. So, you can argue either way on Linda. You can say that if anything was going to happen it should have by now, but there are also friendships that do grow into relationships as people realize that they're good for each other and they have good history together. MC liked Holly from the get go, was a great influence for him over the summer and seems stable, smart and great looking. Less history but more immediate chemistry. It seems like MC in a logical world should end up with one of these two (and Chris will take the other) with Lexi perhaps as a dark horse. Of course, emotions are intangible, but since I'm using mine I'm just going to run with that.

Now, to be clear I don't begrudge anyone their choice and preference. Everybody likes something different and variety is the spice of life. I totally understand choosing Cece and can see the attraction even as I see the downsides. What strikes me as odd is the unbalanced reaction of a large group of people leaning towards her. It seems to me that under normal circumstances the distribution should be wider and in my mind I'm trying to understand why that is. Really and truly the only one I would say is a flat no would be Steph, because she screwed MC over already and that colossal a screwup would be irreparable for me.

I have pointed this out before, but although, as you say, most players would probably choose Cece's path as the main one. As far as I know, every other game that has an LOF crossover, uses the Lexi route as canon for their game's reality.

just an interesting observation.

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

If a game/song/book/movie/show can easily be shrugged off and fails to make you care about something, anything in it to the point were you keep thinking about it after it ends, in my opinion, they have completely failed their purpose. "just a ..." is slang for souless waste of time. //endsermon xD

DONT. TEMPT. ME. FRODO BAGGINS!

 

[♂Brout&Minou♀]

I know a number of people who could benefit from playing LOF but won't due to its "porn content". I know many teens who struggle with thoughts of suicide and also others who's friends have that struggle or have survived an attempt and they don't know how to respond to what their friend did or is going through, but you LEGALLY can't hand a 15 or 16 year old a porn game and say "Here, this might help."
You can make a game rated for teens and still have kissing, making out, sexual tension, and implied sex that isn't shown, and give a very similar feel to the game without the blatant porn parts.
Personally, I think a SFW version of LOF would be amazing.

I know I'm going to sound like an idiot but, may I ask what is "SFW" here?

 

[Elhemeer]

also sfw version of lof? while game would work as sfw it'd feel dumb since many scenes are sexual related like lexi and holly on yacht etc.

I mean, if you played the original: Sure, maybe a lot of the scenes that would have to replace the sex scenes would feel unrewarding. But if you never played the "adult" version, and Drifty does a good job in transitioning between scenes without the blatant sex scenes, it could definitely work for new players. I suppose the question then is will Drifty ever have time, or want to, make those necessary replacement transitions. From his post, it sounds like that many not be something he's willing to devote too much time to anyway.