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Grif1001

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Was driving me nuts reading the inaccurate info. lol. Here you go.

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When George W Bush was Governor of Texas he said something about making the speed limit higher and a reporter asked him "Just how fast do you think Texans should be allowed to drive?" to which he replied, "As fast as we can."
 

Son of Durin

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Was driving me nuts reading the inaccurate info. lol. Here you go.

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That chart supports what I was saying in the first place: up to 85 in Texas (though a smaller area than I believe it was a couple of decades ago), mostly 75 on highways, but 80 on some, 65 near the cities - my nearest big city is Houston so that was my point of reference. That's also where that pink blob is - probably, Harris, Fort Bend, Montgomery, Matagorda, Galveston and Washington Counties. Maybe parts of some others. Please challenge me on that. Please, please, please. ;)
 

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Was driving me nuts reading the inaccurate info. lol. Here you go.

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I've just got to say that this map is just all kinds of confusing...

First off, why are Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana all outlined in white and nothing else is? Are those the states that are seceding with Texas now?

Second, both Hawaii and Alaska are way farther from Texas than this map shows, and Alaska is way bigger in real life, but here it looks comparable to Nevada.
 

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I've just got to say that this map is just all kinds of confusing...

First off, why are Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana all outlined in white and nothing else is? Are those the states that are seceding with Texas now?

Second, both Hawaii and Alaska are way farther from Texas than this map shows, and Alaska is way bigger in real life, but here it looks comparable to Nevada.
Well, the borders are just artifacts of the transparency settings. I have no answers for the far-away states ;-)
 
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Do you really think any driver in Texas (or anywhere, really) drives an average of under 40mph to go anywhere further than the grocery store? You mustn't know anything about driving in the US (or, frankly, any place that has any kind of car culture or appreciation for automobiles at all).
Imagine thinking you can consistently do the speed limit in *insert gridlocked us city here*
 

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Imagine thinking you can consistently do the speed limit in *insert gridlocked us city here*
You have to know the patterns. Live some place long enough, and you know its ebbs and flows. As for highway driving, once you get on a Texas state highway or interstate, maintaining the speed limit (or greater) isn't much of a challenge unless there's an accident, hurricane evacuation, or massive DPS revenue operation.
 
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When George W Bush was Governor of Texas he said something about making the speed limit higher and a reporter asked him "Just how fast do you think Texans should be allowed to drive?" to which he replied, "As fast as we can."
that's easy with ford f-150 and similar.
 

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I've just got to say that this map is just all kinds of confusing...

First off, why are Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana all outlined in white and nothing else is? Are those the states that are seceding with Texas now?

Second, both Hawaii and Alaska are way farther from Texas than this map shows, and Alaska is way bigger in real life, but here it looks comparable to Nevada.
Latitude adjusted, actual Texas landmass is more comparable to Alaska than if you look on a map - the flat maps exaggerate land masses nearer the poles. Texas will still fit within the boundaries of Alaska, but it's more akin to punching a hole to make a ring than punching a hole to make a donut.

Well, until Alaska melts. ;) (Just an old joke.)
 

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Imagine thinking you can consistently do the speed limit in *insert gridlocked us city here*
It's really not that hard. Most cities aren't as "gridlocked" as TV and Movies make them out to be. That's typically only when there is a major wreck.
We have these neat things called city planning departments, Traffic control departments, and a number of other city and state organizations that work together and employee engineers and engineering firms all for the sole purpose of controlling traffic patterns and adding and expanding highways to account for increased traffic flow five to ten years prior to reaching perpetual gridlock.
This keeps everything flowing as close to the speed limit as possible with the exception of a few hours a day (1.5 to 2 in the am and again in the pm) known as rush hour.
Which is also the name of a pretty good movie franchise.
 
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Son of Durin

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It's really not that hard. Most cities aren't as "gridlocked" as TV and Movies make them out to be. That's typically only when there is a major wreck.
We have these neat things called city planning departments, Traffic control departments, and a number of other city and state organizations that work together and employee engineers and engineering firms all for the sole purpose of controlling traffic patterns and adding and expanding highways to account for increased traffic flow five to ten years prior to reaching perpetual gridlock.
This keeps everything flowing as close to the speed limit as possible with the exception of a few hours a day (1.5 to 2 in the am and again in the pm) known as rush hour.
Which is also the name of a pretty good movie franchise.
And the more they try to fix the Houston Galleria area, the worse they seem to fuck it up! :ROFLMAO:
 

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One of the few places I've actually been in Texas, oddly enough. Man, the size of some of the roads out there are insane though. o_O
A big section of the Katy Freeway (I-10, west of the West 610 loop out to the Katy area) has a total of 26 lanes if you include the 4-lane feeders on either side and managed lanes down the middle.
 
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I am convinced that Portal Technology already exists but is being restrained and constrained by the the Automotive, transportation, oil and gas, travel, shipping, and infrastructure industries. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Nah: what's really true is that there are special lanes for the Stone Cutters.

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If there was no traffic, they wouldn't build so many lanes to finally, eventually, solve traffic for real this time! Not like all those other times they ignored the Jevons Paradox.

(To get to the actual point though, average journey time is not the same as speed limits because even in a perfectly spherical road free of all blemishes you have traffic lights, corners, intersections and the desire to eat a hoagie after a few hours on the road)
 

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You guys are dicks. You're all taking these mind-altering highway drugs and you haven't shared them at all. I want some of what you all have been smoking so that I can rhapsodize over random events of urban and rural mechanized transport too. I mean, I have utterly revolutionary, mind-bending observations and ideas. I just can't express them properly without entering into the same altered state you guys are in, otherwise you'll never understand them. :ROFLMAO:
 

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You're all taking these mind-altering highway drugs and you haven't shared them at all. I want some of what you all have been smoking so that I can rhapsodize over random events of urban and rural mechanized transport too.
desire to eat a hoagie after a few hours on the road
Forget the road, just hook me up with some of what Talion's talking about and a nice hoagie and I'll be good to go. :giggle: Heck, now that I'm thinking about a hoagie (here they're called subs but I also have family/friends in places they're called hoagies or even grinders) I could really go for one regardless of a the drive or drugs, lol.
 

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even in a perfectly spherical road free of all blemishes you have traffic lights, corners, intersections and the desire to eat a hoagie after a few hours on the road)
How the hell do you get corners on a perfectly spherical road? Also how are corners and Intersections separate things? isn't an intersection of two roads the very thing that creates a corner? I'm confused! I guess I need more of the drugs that no one bothered to shared with talion777 to figure this out.
 
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(here they're called subs but I also have family/friends in places they're called hoagies or even grinders)
I have heard them called grinders, but I can't do that. For me the word Grinder will forever be associated with the mile square chunk of asphalt we did PT on at the Naval Boot Camp in Orlando, Florida when I was there in Fall of '93. So whenever I hear the term "Grinder" I am instantly transported back to the one place on Earth that I most closely associate with a literal manifestation of a biblical hell.
 
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