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As much as this good and I like it , But do not do this for Cece plaese , OH sorry You can simply do it and leave her only for my Love. :love: :love:
those are the lyrics to the song that plays during the house cleaning sequance... during both of them actually, when the MC is cleaning his house, and when the girls clean up Lexi's place.
 
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Watching An American Werewolf In Paris today and was reminded of Leap of Faith…

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Not off of a bridge, but the Eiffel Tower! And he caught her!
 
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I came for boobs and booty and discovered a very touching story about depression, recovery and love.

The plot twist with Stephanie is not very good (and probably a bit inconsistent with the beginning of the story). But all the story is very compelling and makes you want to be involved a lot.

I have a soft sport for Chris, he is probably the most well written character of the game, goofy, funny, touching, and really a good caring friend of the MC. Everyone would want someone like him near him (or her). Most of the LI are interesting, not always original, but always well written. Special mention for Cece, Lexi and Linda who all trigger deep emotions and connection to the MC.
 

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Yeah, Stephanie and her story is just bleh xD
Could've easily been something like: dad went to jail, I had to tace care of mom/cancer/whatever. The chosen story is simple even more goofy and unbelievable than Chris smashing both girls xD

That's why I always say that all VN's require suspension of disbelief to fully enjoy them.
 

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The whole game is a whirlwind of adventure. This is the part that pushes the plot forward and keeps it fresh and engaging. Dev has a knack about mystery secret agents and secretive undebelly intrigue. Just look at what is in store for the next game.
There is definitely value in following the other paths -- even if just to see what happens when you come between two lovers, or two best friends.

Also, pairing Chris with Robin doesn't have to involve any sadness (just don't dip into either girl before the trip)
But you are missing the whole game start: Chris is edging you to go out with kira,
how heartless are you to dump her on him like that.
What happened to bros before hoes? She is a sweet girl that Chris goes the distance to
hook you up with ... would you feel O.K. getting on with the girl you set your best friend with ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Robin is someone MC never talks to Chris about the whole time before the party.
Chris is star struck with Lexi. Kind a hard to see how or why something like this would work.
The plot twist with Stephanie is not very good
Stephanie and her story
The story is about as Bourne/oo7 Craig as this game can get.
Remember Linda: MC has a hard time remembering his exes and his part in the break up.

This game tells us how girls have to come after you to make it work,
are you not tired of your usual chad/cuck games where MC either is a pleasure meat stick
for determined horny girls or a scrawny pervy nobody jerking off in the corner while
brain dead bulls rape the girls MC likes?
 

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I didn't say she is a bad character, just overall the story is hard to believe.
It serves her purpose and she is overall likable :D
 
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are you not tired of your usual chad/cuck games where MC either is a pleasure meat stick
Well, as I stated in my initial post, I found the game well written and the characters very interesting overall. I liked Stephanie route and was even about to give her another chance until the revelation of her disappearance. It just didn't work for me and broke the suspension of disbelief. And as I said, I loved a lot of characters less for the sexual part than for the emotional part they gave us.
 

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But you are missing the whole game start: Chris is edging you to go out with kira,
how heartless are you to dump her on him like that.
What happened to bros before hoes? She is a sweet girl that Chris goes the distance to
hook you up with ... would you feel O.K. getting on with the girl you set your best friend with ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Robin is someone MC never talks to Chris about the whole time before the party.
Chris is star struck with Lexi. Kind a hard to see how or why something like this would work.
It's subtle, but the game does set up a path for Chris to like Robin ... even before leaving for LA ... and so that relationship definitely can be expanded -- especially if you decide NOT to go with Kira. Clearly the two of them don't have a problem sharing, and if you're not interested, how is it a "bros before hoes" issue if you turn the tables and give Chris a chance.

Also, your "bros before hoes" attitude should mean you can't set up Chris with Linda either. And since he's star-struck with Lexi, how could he even be bothered to think of getting with Holly, whom he already thinks is just as out of reach?

Why have the option for him to fall in love at all? 'Cause the MC and Chris don't have that shallow a relationship. That's why so many people praise it so highly.
 
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Yeah, Stephanie and her story is just bleh xD
Could've easily been something like: dad went to jail, I had to tace care of mom/cancer/whatever. The chosen story is simple even more goofy and unbelievable than Chris smashing both girls xD

That's why I always say that all VN's require suspension of disbelief to fully enjoy them.
There's no question Stephanie's story is the weakest link ... less the plot than the details. If you put any thought into the timeline (which I haven't been able to resist) it all breaks down spectacularly.

But the overall story -- Even Stephs sans her basic plot -- is strong enough (for me) to overlook that glitch in the Matrix.
 
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It's subtle, but the game does set up a path for Chris to like Robin ... even before leaving for LA ... and so that relationship definitely can be expanded -- especially if you decide NOT to go with Kira. Clearly the two of them don't have a problem sharing, and if you're not interested, how is it a "bros before hoes" issue if you turn the tables and give Chris a chance.

Also, your "bros before hoes" attitude should mean you can't set up Chris with Linda either. And since he's star-struck with Lexi, how could he even be bothered to think of getting with Holly, whom he already thinks is just as out of reach?

Why have the option for him to fall in love at all? 'Cause the MC and Chris don't have that shallow a relationship. That's why so many people praise it so highly.
Chris: "Everyone knows Batman and Robin."
Robin: "Nobody in their right mind would ever want to be Robin in that scenario."
Chris: "But what if... Robin was a chick? mindblooooooown"
Robin: "Then everyone would want to do Robin, not be Robin."
Chris: "Exactly!"

That there is some first class, subtle as hell, flirting!

Chris makes a big deal about MC being the smooth talker, but Batman(Chris), in three short sentences, told Robin that...
1. He wouldn't mind being partnered up with her.
2. That she if she was the Robin to his Batman, it would be mindblowing,
and
3. Agreed that she's hot enough that EVERYONE would want to DO her, in other words, he's cool with Kira.

and, Kira heard it all as they walked away.

You have to read between the lines a little, but it's all there. ;) :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Solid set up to a future relationship and a better Meet/Cute than many movies have!
 
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Chris: "Everyone knows Batman and Robin."
Robin: "Nobody in their right mind would ever want to be Robin in that scenario."
Chris: "But what if... Robin was a chick? mindblooooooown"
Robin: "Then everyone would want to do Robin, not be Robin."
Chris: "Exactly!"

That there is some first class, subtle as hell, flirting!

Chris makes a big deal about MC being the smooth talker, but Batman(Chris), in three short sentences, told Robin that...
1. He wouldn't mind being partnered up with her.
2. That she if she was the Robin to his Batman, it would be mindblowing,
and
3. Agreed that she's hot enough that EVERYONE would want to DO her, in other words, he's cool with Kira.

and, Kira heard it all as they walked away.

You have to read between the lines a little, but it's all there. ;) :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Solid set up to a future relationship and a better Meet/Cute than many movies have!
Then, the follow up... when you get up after the first night at Lexi's and have the little free move with the arrow keys, Chris and Robin are sitting alone at the table together and she's teaching him how to play her favorite phone app game...the same one that you and she compete for high score on...

Then, right before the Truth or Dare, Chris goes down to the wine cellar to help Robin bring the drinks back up... It's almost like they keep finding time and excuses to be together.

There's honestly no telling how much time they actually spend together building a friendship that later blossoms into something more while you're off with other girls. And good on your bro! He's always there for you. he deserves to be happy also!

Only a monster plays this game and makes Chris end up alone!:p:LOL:
 
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I prefer the Robin choice I made in my second run(Lexi).
Mostly because with Linda it feels like she's getting scraps/second best.
Batman & Robin felt more organic. That's just my opinion ofc.
 
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There's no question Stephanie's story is the weakest link ... less the plot than the details. If you put any thought into the timeline (which I haven't been able to resist) it all breaks down spectacularly.

But the overall story -- Even Stephs sans her basic plot -- is strong enough (for me) to overlook that glitch in the Matrix.
Phillip: "I loved you Steph, we could have worked it out."
Stephanie: "I know you did. But I was a young girl, scared shitless. Terrified of fucking up everything."

Wait, what???
That was only 2 years ago, if you were a young girl then, you're barely a slightly older young girl now!
also, how young of a girl were you actually? to be a federal agent who goes undercover, you almost always have to have a college degree. So she was 22 posing as 18 and now the MC is 20 and Steph is 24 and her excuse is that at 22 she was a "Young girl scared shitless"?? yeah, the details absolutely break down and fall to pieces. takes a lot of pretending or just plain disbelief to move on with Steph if you put any real thought into her explanation.
 
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Anyone have a list of what kind of sex you can have with each girl?
Sex isn't the main focus of this VN, There is sex, but its not really the "player picks and chooses between different positions and points of view kind... the sex is an element of the storytelling, and makes sense in it's place within the story. The story is the most important part of this VN.
 
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Phillip: "I loved you Steph, we could have worked it out."
Stephanie: "I know you did. But I was a young girl, scared shitless. Terrified of fucking up everything."

Wait, what???
That was only 2 years ago, if you were a young girl then, you're barely a slightly older young girl now!
also, how young of a girl were you actually? to be a federal agent who goes undercover, you almost always have to have a college degree. So she was 22 posing as 18 and now the MC is 20 and Steph is 24 and her excuse is that at 22 she was a "Young girl scared shitless"?? yeah, the details absolutely break down and fall to pieces. takes a lot of pretending or just plain disbelief to move on with Steph if you put any real thought into her explanation.
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yeah, I just got back on here because I was thinking about the 10 year thing and then remembered the MC saying Steph was 26 at Lexi's and was going to update my previous post...

You put a lot of thought into it, the only thing that I would possibly disagree with is the meeting of Chris, Linda, and MC... I had thought it was probably the beginning of 8th grade, just because of Chris's comment about how last year the girls didn't have boobs and now they each have two of them. I seem to remember that as being the summer between 7th and 8th grade for the most part...so there's one of your missing 2 years... and depending upon the individual's birth day, it is possible for a 14 year old to be in either the 8th or 9th grade...
I'm really just trying to understand how it took all of them until they were 22 to graduate from High School... o_O
 
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