Dungeons & Lesbians, Our Lovely Escape, Planet Stranglehold 2, and Three Lesbians in a Barrow, I've actually reported for these games to be labeled 'Completed' multiple times and have messaged the mods about this but nothing changed. Unless someone responded to any of them, I'm not sure about moving them.
Dungeons & Lesbians is as complete experience as it can be (it's a coffeebreak VN, came out in 2018, got a bugfix patch in 2020, the version here includes the patch).
Three Lesbians in a Barrow, while I haven't played it yet, is likewise intended to be short and came out back in 2019 - no changes to be expected by now. I can also vouch for
Planet Stronghold 2 as I played it at the release, and the developer's business model is the old school one of releasing full games and moving on (plus he got really disappointed by the sales figures of this one); it appears the version here is only missing really minor bugfixes so while for this one I could understand if the requirement for the 'completed' status is to provide the latest known version no matter what it does, implying "[the development is] ongoing" or that it's unfinished/incomplete by having it under that category is just wrong. Your list isn't bound by what moderators do with threads (after all it happened in the first place because categorizing of games is not ideal) so if you can prove something is X and not Y, don't be afraid to provide up-to-date information here.
Differentiating between ongoing and finished projects is meant chiefly for games that are released in smaller chunks over a longer period of time, or with open/paid access to alpha/beta versions (Patreon, early access, using players as playtesters), so people who don't mind the episodic experience or want to participate in the development process can check on them periodically, and those who want to play through a game from start to finish uninterrupted know when to finally pick it up.
In case of
Our Lovely Escape, I'm slightly undecided because the missing patch already exists so knowing that bit of extra content exists and is out of reach miiight spoil someone's fun, but normally they'd be oblivious to any enhancements going to appear in the distant future (you may wait for some time after the release for critical bugfixes or if game's financing model allows the developer to pump more content into the game after the "1.0" milestone, but you don't just assume there will be an eventual Director's Cut).
What do you say about a compromise of moving Our Lovely Escape to the Finished list with a "(missing latest patch)" note to it? People avoiding half-finished games and not checking that part of the list will play it and 102% completionists will know to wait until someone donates the final patch.
Flowers Game Collection and Star Crossed Lovers, I might leave them as is, since I'm going off what they're titled in their game threads.
FLOWERS I suggested renaming it because I looked for the full titles of these on the list and couldn't find them (the old list used full titles). May be just me but I didn't connect that title with the games.
Star Crossed Lovers - Andromeda Six is in the title (
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), plus DLCs and expansion packs for games should be prefixed by base games' titles irregardless (think of the chaos expansions for games like
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or
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would cause on alphabetical game lists unprefixed, and usually you're expected to familiarize yourself with the main game first so having them scattered hinders searching for standalone titles).
Thread titles can be incorrect, like with
Cursed Lands and
Embric of Wulfhammer's Castle - the former game isn't called "Tales of Aravorn"(
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basket, in the latter the title of the thread is missing "'s Castle". And you have a list of games and not threads. For an extreme example of why relying on thread titles would lead to inconsistent naming, try to list only two or three games from a
thread like this one if it turns out to be their sole source here.
'Til Death, Possibly a Chimera, Probably a Big Fucking Cat, and The Haunting of Lunaris, I might also leave as is, since their links to their games still work.
My reasoning was: removing the threads for WtNC mini-stories I think I can only see causing a bit of confusion for someone finding the threads by browsing the site and requesting them added to this list after not seeing them on it, but the fault would lie in the threads not mentioning they're old versions that got incorporated into the main game. Removing the links from here wouldn't make them lost because they're all linked in the When the Night Comes thread's opening post - and from the point of view of a person browsing this thread to find games to play, they only need to grab the latest download for WtNC (as an aside, the WtNC thread could also use some bright-colored sentence mentioning the minis got merged in - and it's another opportunity to make your list superior by adding a note to the link that "(ReVamp version contains mini-stories)" before such change to the thread gets requested and processed).
Champion of Venus, I'm hesitant of removing it from the list since I haven't played much of it but I'm still curious how much lesbian content is in the game and whether futa should count.
Champion of Venus, in chronological order:
- bathroom dildo (neutral)
- lesbian sex (ok)
- gain giant retractable penis, deepthroat (a wild futa appears)
- bathroom dildo again (neutral)
- penis strikes again; is it called double blowjob if done by two people? (not gay)
- repeat lesbian sex scene (ok), accept being futa (not gay) and intend to penis your way to victory (does not bode well for gay)
- Humongous Dick Trap used WhatTheFuck (straight and equally gross and hilarious but the heroine is merely watching so it's passable)
- Humongous Dick Trap used Impale, it's super effective; heroine develops rectovaginal fistula and loses internal organs in confusion (gay gone with the wind)
- optional game over of getting devoured (was in the mood for unadulterated gay at the time instead of what I witnessed so I stopped there)
The purpose of the old list was to reduce the hassle of finding games allowing for a "lesbian playthrough" (female protagonist, female love interest, no dicks on the horizon). Such games have their target audience but the lesbian tag only means the presence of at least one "girls holding hands or having sex" scene, and the protagonist may still (and is likely to) fall victim to an unknown amount of dick or express how much she desires it (thus revealing herself to be bisexual). I think the old thread may have had some rants on the uselessness of this site in that regard. Futa content in particular is easy to find normally with tags and it's not an orientation but a fetish, so a whole playthrough doesn't need to be dedicated to it (I don't know what to think of trans characters getting mixed in with the futa as the only non-platonic trans content I've seen so far was in Hardcoded, and futa is a different thing).
It's your list now so it's up to you if you want to continue the girls-only club or to sneak in some game you liked that's "almost all lesbian but there's this one problematic thing" if maintaining a new thread for futa, bisexual or magic gender switch games would be too time-consuming (I haven't checked if there already exist any), but you should mark or add a note to any such entry explaining what's making protagonist's life less gay so no one gets an unavoidable surprise close encounter of the third kind with menfolk several hours down the line (and the more exceptions you mix in, the less useful the list will become). But that's for consideration in case of less glaring violations - Champion of Venus lives deep in futaland and caters to other extreme and non-lesbianese fetishes.
Also I apologize if I ended up sounding rude/whiny/ungrateful somewhere. Just mildly OCD on keeping some things organized if encountered. In the end I don't intend to stick around and nitpick so ignore my points if I didn't manage to convince you to them.
Also also you should add links to this thread and the gay one to your signature for more exposure. All your posts would then direct users here and away from any outdated links to the old list.
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If I had to guess how ToA got attached to Cursed Lands here, it might be that the developer briefly considered unifying his same-universe fantasy RPGs under a single banner in hope of owners of ToA:SotW and Loren (namedropped) grabbing it, which led to that single announcement using that title, but right after it he realized he likes to complain how sequels don't sell and immediately retracted from the idea, opting for a simpler title without the weakness of making potential buyers think they need to buy his previous RPGs to understand what's going on - but he wasn't quick enough and a few unknown review blogs and f95zone took what was in the unfortunate announcement before he scrapped it and contradict his company's official stance to this day.
