and you haven't reached this part yet so I won't spoil anything, but when Sensei has a future head trip remember the finch scene, whos in it, and how people are depicted. I have such a huge theory to throw at you when you do reach it if you are interested. Though my google image search on breed of bird is giving me conflicting information.
Feel free to throw out those theories here, this is just dead space until the next update, and it's not like it's off-topic so...
I'm honestly very confused so far, mostly because there's nothing conclusive and a whole heap of theories you can make, so far it seems like Sensei probably had a "relationship" with Maya in the past, but aside from that, it's all up in the air.
Kaori is too wholesome and good for this world, i want to protect her, but knowing as who we play, we just probably end making her cry directly or inderectly, same with karin but i already choose to lie to her soo...
I feel that there is going to be a spec ops the line moment at some point where the game is gonna throw every bad thing you have done at you and make you see how nothing of that would have happened if you just stopped at some point, how all of that is also your fault and you are as bad as sensei or something like that
Loving it as always man hope you live forever so you can continue giving us our drug
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If Maya has million number of fans i am one of them. If Maya has ten fans i am one of them. If Maya has no fans. that means i am no more on the earth. If world against Maya, I am against the world.
Though it sucks that the game does technically soft lock you there, but as previously stated, it does tell you to write the IP down and everything is blatantly given to you. Not only that, but if you really got stuck you could just have just asked here or could have found the solution in this thread, which it is posted multiple times. dEven a google search gets it. This isn't really a game to skim for porn, if you find just jotting a note down hard, you wouldn't like what I do and freeze frame every static screen, han key and translate every hex code, Cesar code, and look up every kanji by drawing it by hand, and perk up and take notes when words like jump, tree, or bird are spoken even in blatant passing.
Funny story about the Cesar code. I only found out it was a Caesar cipher because when it didn't work in my hex converter, I decided to just google the numbers. The google result came up with a link title with something to the extent of "Cesar ciphered script of Shrek" because some of the numeric matched.
Them scenes are so whacked out that most of the time I could not even understand what I read so I just fast clicked past them reading a line that actually maybe made some sense. There was no real indication that made me think I would actually have to write any of that down. Their is all sorts of things to look at in the game at that point so why NOT put the damn IP address on the wall or that. Everything in that scene except the computer was all just USELESS crap.. not a single useful thing at all. There was no need to soft lock when the answers should of been on the damn wall there. Also the voice is lying at that time says listen to her for the answers.. so she could of said them at random times but the ONLY thing she provides is the port number.
So Ok the answer should be on the Wiki after all what is the Wiki for? Nope the answers have been deleted instead of being put in a simple spoiler. Why the hell should I have to come and search this thread for a cheat guide when there is the wiki that is suppose to have the answer?
All of his chances at redemption you seem to have perceived are just him using the best method to get closer to the girl. He has one goal and one goal only, to get into the panties of every girl in his class plus any others he meets. The best way to do that is to get closer to them so they drop their guard and let him in.
Ok we have different opinions here. And ill take it just as more info to try to fit it into my own thinking.
Dont know if you read what i think the girls are and what Hope has to do with everything and all the mambo jumbo voodoo shit.
If you want though, all my posts on this board are yet only in this thread, so theyre easy to search for.
I guess at some point ill post it again with everything so far collected by me with all its flaws it may have.
And yeah its not like he seems to have other goals than to get into as much panties as he can "yet". Doesnt make him a total immoral person. Because if he believed that everything he does would ultimately end without consequences because of resets and what not he could just go rape em all for fun... whatever fun that would be...
Its still called Lessons in Love and as long as im not wrong lessons implicate learning. And i dont think its about learning your best ways into teenage girl panties.
Them scenes are so whacked out that most of the time I could not even understand what I read so I just fast clicked past them reading a line that actually maybe made some sense. There was no real indication that made me think I would actually have to write any of that down. Their is all sorts of things to look at in the game at that point so why NOT put the damn IP address on the wall or that. Everything in that scene except the computer was all just USELESS crap.. not a single useful thing at all. There was no need to soft lock when the answers should of been on the damn wall there. Also the voice is lying at that time says listen to her for the answers.. so she could of said them at random times but the ONLY thing she provides is the port number.
So Ok the answer should be on the Wiki after all what is the Wiki for? Nope the answers have been deleted instead of being put in a simple spoiler. Why the hell should I have to come and search this thread for a cheat guide when there is the wiki that is suppose to have the answer?
The whole point of that part of that scene was to reward the people who were actually paying attention and following instructions in an earlier scene. Heck, the earlier scene even asked people who made note of it not to share it with people who ask for it, because the Dev wants people to actually read the dialogue and listen to the audio, and pay attention. With that in mind, the way everything is set up makes perfect sense.
Them scenes are so whacked out that most of the time I could not even understand what I read so I just fast clicked past them reading a line that actually maybe made some sense. There was no real indication that made me think I would actually have to write any of that down. Their is all sorts of things to look at in the game at that point so why NOT put the damn IP address on the wall or that. Everything in that scene except the computer was all just USELESS crap.. not a single useful thing at all. There was no need to soft lock when the answers should of been on the damn wall there. Also the voice is lying at that time says listen to her for the answers.. so she could of said them at random times but the ONLY thing she provides is the port number.
So Ok the answer should be on the Wiki after all what is the Wiki for? Nope the answers have been deleted instead of being put in a simple spoiler. Why the hell should I have to come and search this thread for a cheat guide when there is the wiki that is suppose to have the answer?
Yeah it's spelled out in the scene that you'll need the code. It was annoying at the time because there were a few updates between that scene and the one where you actually input the code (although that was also the update he implemented the ability to view old scenes), now there's really no excuse.
Personally I'm not a fan of that sort of gotcha storytelling, the code was a massive pain in the ass to copy and I vastly preferred the optional scene if you entered a user name that had been hinted at rather than going straight to Sensei's, but all you have to do is pay attention and it's relatively easy to work through.
The whole point of that part of that scene was to reward the people who were actually paying attention and following instructions in an earlier scene. Heck, the earlier scene even asked people who made note of it not to share it with people who ask for it, because the Dev wants people to actually read the dialogue and listen to the audio, and pay attention. With that in mind, the way everything is set up makes perfect sense.
Definitely not a reward... A reward gives you a bonus scene or that not actually soft lock the game to the point you can't do anything until you go searching all over for it. Common Sense would be the Guide Wiki and having it show as a spoiler that you can reveal.. not have to search a thread for the answer so you can continue.
This game does the opposite penalizes you for not cheating. If you try to do it on your own you will miss a lot of events because while you try to repeat actions every day with a different girl or location you end up triggering main event and missing a lot of events. So I started all over from scratch from 0.1.0 all the way through and it worked until after 0.8 or 0.10 it was than there exist miss-able events. So if you try to even use the repetitive process of trying different locations or different girls after school than you will miss a lot of events because you trigger main event. If you try to follow the guide it's broken because all miss-able events are left out of the main event guide.. So finally finished Chapter 1 and missed events Now afraid of missing events in Chapter 2 yet without even trying I have already done 12 of the main events without even trying.
I just can't understand why miss-able events are in a game like this.
I disagree. At least as he's been so far in the game, I do not believe Sensei is capable of that level of action against the girls. I think he'd be using similar tactics to what he is now, but being even more careful about getting caught. Any rivals he'd just find ways to discredit, and turn the girls away from. He's smart, and he's patient, and he wants the girls suffering as little as possible.
He's capable of whatever it takes to get in their panties. With a significant male presence and therefore a significant threat to his goal, he would likely take more drastic actions in order to prevent the girls from getting with another guy. The second any of these girls, except Kirin, Ayane, and Noriko because all three are either disinterested in relationships or were completely devoted to player Sensei from day one, get with another guy and deny him his shot at getting in their panties, that's game over, mission failed. His entire goal revolves around getting in ALL their panties, not just one, not just some. If even one gets away for any reason, it's all over. Funny thing, he could have VERY easily blown his entire goal in this latest build with one scene in particular.
As far as other methods of threat elimination, like discrediting the other guys, sure, that could work for maybe one or two guys before the girls start thinking player Sensei is crying wolf. He can't just discredit every guy in town and expect the girls to believe him every single time. They will eventually think something is fishy and catch onto his attempts, then it's once again game over. He lost their trust and they would never let him anywhere near them sexually.
These girls aren't stupid, especially not Chika. They WILL figure him out eventually and it WILL be ugly when they do, that applies to both this hypothetical scenario with more guys posing a threat and the actual game.
Feel free to throw out those theories here, this is just dead space until the next update, and it's not like it's off-topic so...
I'm honestly very confused so far, mostly because there's nothing conclusive and a whole heap of theories you can make, so far it seems like Sensei probably had a "relationship" with Maya in the past, but aside from that, it's all up in the air.
Not at all, we love going on theory tangents here. We are very early into the game, so it makes sense we know very little at this time. For me, that makes theorizing even more fun because I have more to work out.
Kaori is too wholesome and good for this world, i want to protect her, but knowing as who we play, we just probably end making her cry directly or inderectly, same with karin but i already choose to lie to her soo...
I feel that there is going to be a spec ops the line moment at some point where the game is gonna throw every bad thing you have done at you and make you see how nothing of that would have happened if you just stopped at some point, how all of that is also your fault and you are as bad as sensei or something like that
Loving it as always man hope you live forever so you can continue giving us our drug
And weird, in the most adorable way humanly possible. As far as the game throwing our bad deeds at us, I could very easily see that happening. Sometimes I feel I deserve it because I've been a bad homie to multiple girls on multiple occasions. Poor Karin's heart is going to shatter when she realizes we lied and it really makes me feel bad that, in order to get that scene as completed instead of missed, I had to lie. I could see her finding out we lied in the worst way possible, too. Walking in on us and Kirin in the middle of some clearly visible penetrative action with absolutely no way to dig ourselves out of the hole we just fell into.
Them scenes are so whacked out that most of the time I could not even understand what I read so I just fast clicked past them reading a line that actually maybe made some sense. There was no real indication that made me think I would actually have to write any of that down. Their is all sorts of things to look at in the game at that point so why NOT put the damn IP address on the wall or that. Everything in that scene except the computer was all just USELESS crap.. not a single useful thing at all. There was no need to soft lock when the answers should of been on the damn wall there. Also the voice is lying at that time says listen to her for the answers.. so she could of said them at random times but the ONLY thing she provides is the port number.
So Ok the answer should be on the Wiki after all what is the Wiki for? Nope the answers have been deleted instead of being put in a simple spoiler. Why the hell should I have to come and search this thread for a cheat guide when there is the wiki that is suppose to have the answer?
NOT a good idea, NEVER skip the text unless you've seen it all before word for word and remember what it says. You never know when something like "There Is Nothing" will come up again. Why not put the IP on the wall? Because it was given to you earlier. Whether you paid attention or not is your call and your fault if you didn't get the info presented. The rest of the puzzle room in that event is intentionally useless, the only thing that matters is the laptop and the audio, though there are references in certain other parts of the room to check out like on the board on the wall at the desk, a certain detail there depends on if you're a bad uncle to Ami or a good one that hasn't touched her in inappropriate ways.
There was no soft lock, it was only a lack of information given earlier in the game on the player's part. A soft lock is when there is literally no way to progress, but there is one at that point, have the information on hand or go back and watch the events again in replay.
The voice isn't lying, it provided answers as it said. Just because it only provides one of the answers doesn't mean it lied. Again, the other answers were presented earlier in the game. There was no need for the voice to say anything different than it does now because other parts of the game give you all the other information.
You shouldn't HAVE to search for a guide or on the wiki, you should already have the answers by the time you reach the puzzle and should be ready to input them immediately, no getting stuck, no 'soft lock,' no issue of any kind.
Ok we have different opinions here. And ill take it just as more info to try to fit it into my own thinking.
Dont know if you read what i think the girls are and what Hope has to do with everything and all the mambo jumbo voodoo shit.
If you want though, all my posts on this board are yet only in this thread, so theyre easy to search for.
I guess at some point ill post it again with everything so far collected by me with all its flaws it may have.
And yeah its not like he seems to have other goals than to get into as much panties as he can "yet". Doesnt make him a total unmoral person. Because if he believed that everything he does would ultimately end without consequences because of resets and what not he could just go rape em all for fun... whatever fun that would be...
Its still called Lessons in Love and as long as im not wrong lessons implicate learning. And i dont think its about learning your best ways into teenage girl panties.
Oh no, not totally immoral or he would have raped a girl by now. Total immorality would have meant him not caring about which methods are best, just moving in for the kill on every girl he can before they all gang up on him to put an end to his rampage, assuming they resist at all beyond a futile attempt to stop the initial rape, of course. I've said it before, but this game would end up a whole lot darker with a completely immoral player Sensei.
The whole point of that part of that scene was to reward the people who were actually paying attention and following instructions in an earlier scene. Heck, the earlier scene even asked people who made note of it not to share it with people who ask for it, because the Dev wants people to actually read the dialogue and listen to the audio, and pay attention. With that in mind, the way everything is set up makes perfect sense.
Definitely not a reward... A reward gives you a bonus scene or that not actually soft lock the game to the point you can't do anything until you go searching all over for it. Common Sense would be the Guide Wiki and having it show as a spoiler that you can reveal.. not have to search a thread for the answer so you can continue.
This game does the opposite penalizes you for not cheating. If you try to do it on your own you will miss a lot of events because while you try to repeat actions every day with a different girl or location you end up triggering main event and missing a lot of events. So I started all over from scratch from 0.1.0 all the way through and it worked until after 0.8 or 0.10 it was than there exist miss-able events. So if you try to even use the repetitive process of trying different locations or different girls after school than you will miss a lot of events because you trigger main event. If you try to follow the guide it's broken because all miss-able events are left out of the main event guide.. So finally finished Chapter 1 and missed events Now afraid of missing events in Chapter 2 yet without even trying I have already done 12 of the main events without even trying.
I just can't understand why miss-able events are in a game like this.
There IS a reward in the form of a 'happy' scene that is accessed through a specific username during that step of the puzzle. Paying attention would have given you that username AND the information to solve the puzzle. Again, there is not need to search for answers, they are given to you on a silver platter, all you have to do is pay attention. Any "soft lock" is not the game's fault, it is the player's fault for not paying attention and keeping the information on hand.
There is no penalty for not cheating, the only penalty is for not paying attention. This is not an image viewer, there is text to be read and some of it is important. I DID do it on my own, at least in my second play through, but I also specifically wrote things down when they seemed important or like they were there with no real story purpose. I have a total of 0 missed events as of right now.
You won't miss events just by grinding girls, you have to do it in a VERY specific way to fill the requirements of the main events enough to do that, by which time you should have cleared any event that would be missed by continuing the main events.
Missable events are in a game like this because, canonically speaking, they take place in a certain period of the game that ends with the main event that marks them as missed. This game is all about consequences and not having requirements met bears a consequence. Missing events is that consequence.
Definitely not a reward... A reward gives you a bonus scene or that not actually soft lock the game to the point you can't do anything until you go searching all over for it. Common Sense would be the Guide Wiki and having it show as a spoiler that you can reveal.. not have to search a thread for the answer so you can continue.
This game does the opposite penalizes you for not cheating. If you try to do it on your own you will miss a lot of events because while you try to repeat actions every day with a different girl or location you end up triggering main event and missing a lot of events. So I started all over from scratch from 0.1.0 all the way through and it worked until after 0.8 or 0.10 it was than there exist miss-able events. So if you try to even use the repetitive process of trying different locations or different girls after school than you will miss a lot of events because you trigger main event. If you try to follow the guide it's broken because all miss-able events are left out of the main event guide.. So finally finished Chapter 1 and missed events Now afraid of missing events in Chapter 2 yet without even trying I have already done 12 of the main events without even trying.
I just can't understand why miss-able events are in a game like this.
It's because this game is realistic, and as in real life, your actions have consequences.
Like if you convince your niece to consensually have sex with you, the logically conclusion is that it might progress to your niece to ask for coitus. But if you reject your niece's attempts to have consensual sex, no longer would it make sense for your niece to ask for coitus, and thus you get locked out of that scene.
Or let's say you have sex with your friend's crush. Obviously, the friend is gonna be pissed at you. Now if you have sex with your friend's crush after the crush already rejected the friend, then the friend might not be pissed at you. That's just realistic logic.
Get what I'm saying? Your actions have consequences; that's all there is to this game
Don't try to explain this to super-dedicated fans like alex2011, I already tried and failed. But it could be our fault, maybe for more experienced players it's obvious. You know, there's game with play time in days, and that's even when you read fast, with no hint whatsoever at the beginning, that you should pay special attention to anything or make notes. But you still do analyze every word and write down anything that seems important.
Don't try to explain this to super-dedicated fans like alex2011, I already tried and failed. But it could be our fault, maybe for more experienced players it's obvious. You know, there's game with play time in days, and that's even when you read fast, with no hint whatsoever at the beginning, that you should pay special attention to anything or make notes. But you still do analyze every word and write down anything that seems important.
My "dedication" is irrelevant, there IS no explanation to be given. You tried and failed because what you said was incorrect, the same as Molitar.
When a game presents information, expects you, and even specifically tells you in some cases, to write it down, and you do not write it down. Then, when the game later asks for the information it expected you to write down, and even told you specifically to do so in some cases, and you don't have that information, you face the consequences of your actions.
Yes, lack of action is itself an action. Choosing not to write something down that will be asked for later and is even suggested to be written down by the game is specifically asking to get stuck at the part where it then asks for the information you chose not to write down.
This game is full of consequences, that is one of them.
Don't try to explain this to super-dedicated fans like alex2011, I already tried and failed. But it could be our fault, maybe for more experienced players it's obvious. You know, there's game with play time in days, and that's even when you read fast, with no hint whatsoever at the beginning, that you should pay special attention to anything or make notes. But you still do analyze every word and write down anything that seems important.
I mean there's a giant disclaimer in the scene telling you to copy the code because you will need it, which seems like a pretty big hint to me. There's no real excuse to missing it other than skipping through the text in which case why are you playing at all?
Personally I don't like it, it's a cheap and lame gotcha by the author (there is literally one time in the game so far that having the sound on matters as well). I would prefer to be rewarded for reading thoroughly as someone else above mentioned rather than it being a barrier to progress, but at the same time it is very clearly spelled out in the scene and I kind of just view it as the price to access an otherwise excellent story.
I also kind of get it. If you think it's hard to read this much text, imagine writing it. I get why Selebus wants to make sure people aren't just skipping or skimming through but as I said I wish paying attention rewarded the player with extra scenes (as it kind of does) rather than being a base requisite. Athough, on yet another hand this narrative plays with the idea of the player identifying with the main character, and if sensei isn't bothering to listen and pay attention then he's going to get stuck and die in that room.
and you haven't reached this part yet so I won't spoil anything, but when Sensei has a future head trip remember the finch scene, whos in it, and how people are depicted. I have such a huge theory to throw at you when you do reach it if you are interested. Though my google image search on breed of bird is giving me conflicting information.
Now afraid of missing events in Chapter 2 yet without even trying I have already done 12 of the main events without even trying. 
