Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.41.0] [Selebus]

[jamyong]

This update felt like it was trolling us.

1) I was nowhere near the 25/30 affection required for the Chinami events.
2) Half of the opportunities to increase it overlap with Osako's only opportunity.
3) We're given the maid cafe as an Osako event trigger, and a new location on Fridays where she very obviously goes now after work (because Wakana's there), and can't go to either to further improve that absurdly high threshold.
4) At least one event starts on a Saturday or Sunday morning and take up the whole damn day, so we lose an opportunity to go to the dojo.

certainly seems like an oversight to not include her in at least one of those locations, but knowing how selebus tends to be, it was probably intentional. at least with chinami, there are generally 4 opportunities to raise affection weekly, and she's been around for a long time so that one didn't annoy me quite as much. i think a lot of the pacing problems that occur in this game if you don't meticulously follow the wiki or the mod could be solved if each affection tier for unlocking new events was in sets of 3 instead of 5.

Add more weeks for her next event! (20 like req)

and what's worse is that of all the story threads in the game, i care the least about the wakana/osaka dynamic. the poetry thing that was introduced this update with wakana was interesting, but besides that, they seem mostly inconsequential to anything else that's happening.

 

[BiOs!]

damn, Happy Scene getting scarier

 

[worthlesspeon]

Damn, imagine playing this part in the future, when you have no idea that you should do something specific, several times in a row. I mean, we know now that there are only so many events and know with what characters do we need to talk, but if you (or some new guy who just got here on his 1st playthrough) are going to replay this part a few months later, you will have no idea at all and just going to click on everything "until you succeed".

It's definitely a pretty big flaw in this game. If you play release to release the new content isn't too hard to discover. But if you're starting fresh, it can be incredibly difficult since the game pretty much requires you to discover the content in the order it was added even though it presents itself as a sandbox.

 

[adidir]

Maybe I'm pervert, but with hints on Wakana x Sensei and Osako being bottom and her problems with satisfying Wakano, I can see how it could lead to some cuckold relationship with Sensei

 

[fdsasdf_p]

wait, he won`t kill her because patreon`s admins deleted his account, right?

Hopefully Sel hasn't changed his mind about it because of patreon BS. Have to admit that, when initially being introduced to Chinami, I immediately thought of how her eventual demise being so scripted and unavoidable in order to break Chika in full force. Though I am here to witness everything going south, having something unfortunate happen to her really is the least thing I am ready to see.

Maybe the next reset will get rid off whatever is going on with her now if she makes it past Christmas, but I am not getting my hopes up.

 

[jamyong]

Hopefully Sel hasn't changed his mind about it because of patreon BS. Have to admit that, when initially being introduced to Chinami, I immediately thought of how her eventual demise being so scripted and unavoidable in order to break Chika in full force. Though I am here to witness everything going south, having something unfortunate happen to her really is the least thing I am ready to see.

Maybe the next reset will get rid off whatever is going on with her now if she makes it past Christmas, but I am not getting my hopes up.

maybe she'll get really sick to the point of Chika reaching out to Tsubasa for help. then she'll receive the best medical care available but be forced to be taken from Chika's custody

 

[fdsasdf_p]

When Ami's mom speaks to Sensei in any scene, her name is shown as Teacher. When she speaks to Ami, she's Sekai.

The fact that her name changes for Sensei is relevant. That's what she is to him. Not just in a classroom sense, everything that defines him, he learned from her. His nihilism, his detachment of sex from love, his grooming of others as she groomed him.

This rings a slightly unrelated bell for me:
Perhaps it's been brought up for a bazillion times, so could the name that starts with the letter T in fact be "Teacher"? Or is this one of those You Are The 5728024th Person Who Discovered It LOL. This is in a sense like how Sensei just embraces "Sensei" as his name. I just honestly don't think at this point any regular T-starting name would pack a single punch when we finally get to some revelation part.
(Also me here suspecting Tsuenyo the whole time hahaha)

 

[Sirfappington123]

Hopefully Sel hasn't changed his mind about it because of patreon BS. Have to admit that, when initially being introduced to Chinami, I immediately thought of how her eventual demise being so scripted and unavoidable in order to break Chika in full force. Though I am here to witness everything going south, having something unfortunate happen to her really is the least thing I am ready to see.

Maybe the next reset will get rid off whatever is going on with her now if she makes it past Christmas, but I am not getting my hopes up.

Couldn't Tsukasa and her mom just throw her "fuck you" levels of money at her and fix her health?

If i was filthy rich and my kid finally made a friend i'd help that kid out.

 

[barglenarglezous]

This rings a slightly unrelated bell for me:
Perhaps it's been brought up for a bazillion times, so could the name that starts with the letter T in fact be "Teacher"? Or is this one of those You Are The 5728024th Person Who Discovered It LOL. This is in a sense like how Sensei just embraces "Sensei" as his name. I just honestly don't think at this point any regular T-starting name would pack a single punch when we finally get to some revelation part.
(Also me here suspecting Tsuenyo the whole time hahaha)

Possibly, but I think there's more to it.

There was a moment where Sensei is in the Room with the Clocks, looking at someone who looks like Maya hanging, and he says "I'm looking at her right now" in reference to "T". I can't find it in Replay, so I think it might be a varialbe-dependent section of the scene, but it implies that Maya is "T" in some way.

Possibilities:

1) Maya isn't her real name, and the real name starts with T
2) Maya has Teacher's face (the game very specifically obscures her face), which would imply that Maya is Teacher's child or sister.
3) Maya is possessed by Teacher or a reincarnation of Teacher
4) Maya and Teacher are both avatars of the unnamed third god.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Hopefully Sel hasn't changed his mind about it because of patreon BS. Have to admit that, when initially being introduced to Chinami, I immediately thought of how her eventual demise being so scripted and unavoidable in order to break Chika in full force. Though I am here to witness everything going south, having something unfortunate happen to her really is the least thing I am ready to see.

Maybe the next reset will get rid off whatever is going on with her now if she makes it past Christmas, but I am not getting my hopes up.

All indications are that death doesn't actually happen inside Kumon-Mi. At least, something has directly interfered multiple times to keep Makoto alive.

So if she does get criticaly ill, Chinami won't die. She'll just continue wasting away indefinitely.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Possibly, but I think there's more to it.

There was a moment where Sensei is in the Room with the Clocks, looking at someone who looks like Maya hanging, and he says "I'm looking at her right now" in reference to "T". I can't find it in Replay, so I think it might be a varialbe-dependent section of the scene, but it implies that Maya is "T" in some way.

Possibilities:

1) Maya isn't her real name, and the real name starts with T
2) Maya has Teacher's face (the game very specifically obscures her face), which would imply that Maya is Teacher's child or sister.
3) Maya is possessed by Teacher or a reincarnation of Teacher
4) Maya and Teacher are both avatars of the unnamed third god.

I agree that Maya or some iterations of Maya is the most possible candidate for being the "T" (the other candidate being the intentionally mysterious watermelon blue-eyed girl). I mean, currently with the little amount of complete clues we have, I'm just basically pointing fingers to any girl/entity suspicious enough and asking "Hey you T?!?!?"

I also thought of the possibility of THE Maya, the girl we came to know and love, not using her real name when trying to rationalize Ami's statement of "You've never tutored Maya"; as if the name Maya belonged to a girl that Ami knew and was never tutored by Sensei, and the girl Maya wasn't being honest with Sensei.

 

[jamyong]

All indications are that death doesn't actually happen inside Kumon-Mi. At least, something has directly interfered multiple times to keep Makoto alive.

So if she does get criticaly ill, Chinami won't die. She'll just continue wasting away indefinitely.

perhaps that's because she was trying to kill herself.

if not, and death is not allowed, that would probably be even worse for chika and chinami. wakana is all fucked up from having an endless school year and never getting the professional satisfaction of being able to complete it and send her students on to the next year of their education. imagine how harrowing it will be for chika to see her sister wither away cycle after cycle and never break the tension of "will she or won't she die". she'll hate herself for having the thought that it would all be so much easier for them both if she would finally just be able to rest in peace. or maybe chinami will just keep dying over and over, and each time, time resets, but the scars of her passing would remain. there would be such a deep seated sadness and grief inside of her that she would never be able to put words to, and it would completely change her as a person. chinami herself would forsure lose her spark and either become completely terrified of death, or painfully nihilistic.

and then i imagine the effect this would have on yumi would be intense as well. the chosokabes are the only people she really cares about, and losing them in that way would be disastrous for her. it could serve as a catalyst to either bring her closer to sensei and yuki, or bring her closer to following her mother's footsteps and ending up in an alleyway with a needle in her arm.

 

[ChingChang]

Note: First Chinami event requires affection 25 or higher. Second requires 30.

Will edit if other affection thresholds manifest.

Thanks, I'll update my comment. My affection with Chinami was already above 30 at the start of the update, so I couldn't test her requirements. All of the other characters should be fully accurate, since I was below the thresholds for their events.

 

[worthlesspeon]

Couldn't Tsukasa and her mom just throw her "fuck you" levels of money at her and fix her health?

If i was filthy rich and my kid finally made a friend i'd help that kid out.

So I know this is a porn game where nothing is real etc. But there are plenty of things in medicine that you can’t just fix no matter how much money you throw at it. I’m pretty sure Sel isn’t modeling it off a real disease and is just going for his take on a common trope... but a couple real disease off the top of my head that could fit are things like cystic fibrosis or kartagener syndrome, and neither are things you can just fix (well with the exception of specific gene mutations within cf)

 

[barglenarglezous]

So I know this is a porn game where nothing is real etc. But there are plenty of things in medicine that you can’t just fix no matter how much money you throw at it. I’m pretty sure Sel isn’t modeling it off a real disease and is just going for his take on a common trope... but a couple real disease off the top of my head that could fit are things like cystic fibrosis or kartagener syndrome, and neither are things you can just fix (well with the exception of specific gene mutations within cf)

And even some of the ones that CAN be fixed with enough money usually require something else alongside it, like a bone marrow transplant (which itself requires a compatible donor, which may be hard to find if Chika isn't one).

 

[crustlord12]

One thing I did to reduce the grind was every time a new girl gets introduced, I upload my save to a save file editor and set the affection and lust to 100. It doesn't mark the file as a cheater, and it cuts out sooo much needless grinding. If there ever comes an event where having too my affection changes things, then I'll figure it out then. But for now, this is the best way

 

[Bingoogus]

One thing I did to reduce the grind was every time a new girl gets introduced, I upload my save to a save file editor and set the affection and lust to 100. It doesn't mark the file as a cheater, and it cuts out sooo much needless grinding. If there ever comes an event where having too my affection changes things, then I'll figure it out then. But for now, this is the best way

An easier way to do this is just use the universal renpy mod, 'alt+m', type in their name, boom, change the values, good to go. Really don't get why the URM isn't more popular, it's soooo easy to use, a single tiny .rpa file and it takes out so much annoying busy work. I can't live without it now.

 

[Antosha]

I know all of us who’ve enjoyed the game have had the thought of Sensei as a Pokémon trainer (gotta catch them all!). But after my most recent session, I had a weird thought. Since Ayane has now

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[Black Raven]

All indications are that death doesn't actually happen inside Kumon-Mi. At least, something has directly interfered multiple times to keep Makoto alive.

So if she does get criticaly ill, Chinami won't die. She'll just continue wasting away indefinitely.

Uh. Just like Tsuneyo's dad.

 

[rightsaidfred]

I love a good Daz3D game, but bi-weekly updates in Daz3D would be five minute chunks, and it'd be impossible to tell this kind of story that way. This game is massive and barely a third of the way through its story. If he'd used Daz3D, his grandkids would need to finish it for him.

not only that but Daz3D games mostly look like people posing their "barbie dolls". The good daz3d games are so few an far between. Probably because it takes so long to do Daz3D well.