alex2011

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just check the promises for the next update and given the track record of this game i say that at least 1 field encounter and elis map being done by thr give date and the rest being done by April
I hope that's sarcasm or you don't mean April 2021 because any time in 2021 is not going to happen.

I used to be an optimist like you. Then I took a delay in the knee...
Classic

> April

You didn't check the fine print. It's April 2022
2032, you mean?

lmao

I hope someone is watching discord, because I wouldn't be surprised if we never see an update hit the blog
Nor would I considering that's where people who refuse to coddle go. I have my own source, however, that is doing things that Inno has listed among the content never to be added, so I'm fine. I stopped getting downloads from the blog a while ago. The only reason I use it is the direct connection to Inno since Inno is the one person who has control over it.

At this point I'm pretty sure she's waiting on NoStepOnSnek and other contributors to release a bunch of races and items so she can hide her own pitiful amount of work behind theirs.
Probably

No more truly comments in blog, so no need "updates about delays", only cuddly-sweety-lovey-money support from discordfags.
Another one endless project. Sad. I really liked this game.
As did I, but it has fallen to the same fate as other projects that have tasted the Patreon honey. Inno is only keeping things alive to milk now and the Discord is either unknowingly or willingly letting it happen.

When reality knocks on your door you turn the comments off. I hope those endless optimistic Innoxia supporters enjoyed that middle finger. :D
I hope so for their sake or they might just become the next people to be turned off. Not many on the blog enjoyed the middle finger, some less than others, as you can see by how it blew up and then got turned off.

Watching this game's progress is like watching the slowest trainwreck. I can't look away, but I wish it would get on with it, I've got places to be.
Better way to describe it would be is that you are a passenger on slowest moving trainwreck. You have plenty of time to get of the train and doing so would be not that painful. But you paid for the ticket and so you are detirment to see the ride all way through the end just so you could say that you arrived somewhere. Not in the time you expected to and certanly not where you wanted to be. And ending up there was painful while leaving you unfulfilled and frustrated at conductor. But at least you can give it 2 and half star review for providing you experience that you could not get anywhere else.
Trainwrecks are more fun to watch and they aren't even fun at all due to the potential of death and likelihood of injury.

Errr... you don't have to be a supporter to see the Sub. Star posts. It's not like Patreon, where some authors lock posts behind a pay wall. It just that some people don't care about Sub. Star or simply don't know it exists, meaning they miss Inno's more "exclusive" posts. Even before the comment section got turned off, she would sometimes do this - write a post on Sub. Star but "forget" the blog.
You CAN lock the posts on SubscribeStar, but it is optional, just like Patreon. Probably to keep minors from walking in on an adult page as it is with Patreon, but it is often used more as a paywall. I'm a subscriber to a different page for a game on here, that's how I know.

i wish she'd just abandon the project and let her simps pay her for all eternity already, this endless waiting is tedious
It is what is best for the project instead of letting it die slowly and painfully while actively torturing it.

I remember feeling this way, but fortunately I've been off the train since 0.3.9. I just drop by occasionally to have a laugh at how messy Inno gets. There's hope out there, folks, it does get better. Having no emotional attachment to any of this does wonders to one's psyche.
Indeed

Nobody is laughing at the speed of development, they're laughing at constant bait and switch, with Inno promising a new version only to delay every. single. time. If Inno were to only release updates at the same rate they do now and post nothing else, people would have both patience and respect. CoC1 was updated at an even slower pace, but people were okay with waiting, because Fen didn't post every week or two saying, "The update will be here any day now, I promise, guys".
Actually, the bait and switch is one of the causes of the delays, so technically people are laughing at both.

Fuckin' this. Inno doesn't owe me shit, nor do I feel entitled to any updates... But when you break literally every release promise you've ever made for like over a year straight, you really can't be surprised or upset when people get annoyed either.

It's not even hard to avoid, either, it's a solo project not funded by a Patreon or anything - every release date and timeline is arbitrary and completely decided by Inno herself. Just shut the fuck up until you have something to release, or at least only tease features that are already finished and don't give a concrete date.
Exactly, couldn't have said it better.

Every release is like "Hello lovelies, I fixed an asston of bugs, so here's a shitload more to replace them. See y'all when I feel like it." I bet 0.4 won't even be playable when if it gets released.
Probably not, it COULD be like what happened with the elemental revamp, where Inno broke literally EVERYTHING in the game.

Where's the update Lebowski? Where's the fucking update, shithead?
It's down there somewhere, let me take another look.


It's funded on . One thing to note is that Inno characterised support of $2,500 per month - which she has long since exceeded - as, "Financial security, allowing me to treat development of Lilith's Throne as a full-time job."

So if you see people holding her to a higher standard than, "Oh, hai guyz. Just making this game for funsies." that's why.

Meeting deadlines (particularly self-imposed ones), sticking to the development roadmap (ie. not halting development of the main quest in order to work on fanservice side content) and actually getting work done is just the baseline of the standard that she herself set.
And the standard Inno is not sticking to.

this game is going to get abandoned. how? i have future foresight

but to honest, i feel like this game IS going to get abandoned, i can feel it.
That is a VERY real possibility, that can happen when a good portion of your community turns against you for development related reasons.

On the plus side, it's open source, so if it gets abandoned there's always a chance someone sees that as an opportunity to pick it up themselves
Some people already have, there are a few lesser known projects that take the source and do things Inno will not, one of which is my download source. I would be more than happy to help revive the project if it dies as long as others are willing to assist as well, I AM NOT going into the game project itself solo like Inno, and I am willing to give it the proper management it deserves along with the other people who take it up.

The source code is available, but it's not open source. There's a very good chance that Inno is going to change the licensing to restrict free use of her writing as well. Doubly so if anyone ever makes a version that's more popular than the original.

And the game will never be abandoned for as long as Inno can milk it. This is her primary source of income, why would you ever give that up when you could pull a star citizen with it.



Yeah, what a dumb new background. First, why would 'never having worked a day in your life' make you *MORE* physically fit and a better fighter? And second, those buffs are stupid. I guess it'll be even easier to legitimately hit the "super high damage over killing even bosses" point.
A shame, the game desrves better treatment. As for that background, I would think it would make the MC into the stereotypical otaku, fat and so physically unfit otherwise that they look like they could kick the bucket at any moment while sitting around their room gaming nonstop.

It would be completely on-brand for Inno to get sidetracked into reworking combat though
I could see it.

I mean, if they're going to get sidetracked by something, might as well be something that could improve the entire game. Combat could certainly use a rework/some balancing. I wrote about it a while back.
Indeed, at least that would be an improvement, unlike the last sidetracking that took place.

For me, one of the main draws of this game was that there was an actual plan. A clear idea of the shape of the "finished" game combined with a premise that facilitated incredible choice. But if Inno refuses to follow the plan and fails to make any of the choices meaningful (which is what she's done), then that potential means nothing.
Indeed, that was one for me as well, but that is not the case any longer.
 

PlecoBeco

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Some people already have, there are a few lesser known projects that take the source and do things Inno will not, one of which is my download source. I would be more than happy to help revive the project if it dies as long as others are willing to assist as well, I AM NOT going into the game project itself solo like Inno, and I am willing to give it the proper management it deserves along with the other people who take it up.
I feel you on that. Not particularly comfortable putting a furry porn game on my resumé so to try and solo a game as ambituous like this is an investment and responsibility with little returns, only possible if it's your own brainchild and you've got a certain attachment to it (Or getting fat stacks of Patreon NEETbux).

It's good that there actually does seem to have decent refactoring progress happening though. 4 months back I wouldn't touch the code with a ten foot pole but it looks acceptable now, so I might consider getting involved if it becomes a group project a well
 
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Rainbowhead

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I feel you on that. Not particularly comfortable putting a furry porn game on my resumé so to try and solo a game as ambituous like this is an investment and responsibility with little returns, only possible if it's your own brainchild and you've got a certain attachment to it (Or getting fat stacks of Patreon NEETbux).
I see LT more like a goldmine of ideas. The sex system, in particular, is just too fucking good. The whole game doesn't need to be revived, it should be used as a both good and bad example of indie game development.
I have a love-hate relationship with programming and my brain is probably smoother than that of a junior coder, but seeing these gameplay concepts wilt because of the dev motivates me to do my own thing inspired by what LT has promised.
 

tehlemon

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I feel you on that. Not particularly comfortable putting a furry porn game on my resumé so to try and solo a game as ambituous like this is an investment and responsibility with little returns, only possible if it's your own brainchild and you've got a certain attachment to it (Or getting fat stacks of Patreon NEETbux).
That's not going to stop me! Making a game has been a fun project, but it's not really much of a game yet lol

So far I have a bunch of tools to help with workflow, and I can generate impressively large maps. I wanted a way to create entirely dynamic maps that can be easily loaded and saved through text files. It'll make it really easy to mod in new locations, because all you'll need to do is write your own file (or use the tool that does it for you) and drop it into the maps folder. And I have some good ideas on how I want to use it for custom housing. Think Lilaya's house, except you can actually add/remove rooms and hallways in any random design you want.

And then I started thinking about creating art assets and I got sad. There's a lot of art assets that you need, and making icons and stuff is boring as fuck.

Still a fun project. It'll probably die as a tech demo lol

Unrelated, it's been a week since Inno said she'd have an update ready in a couple days in the substar update. Did anyone actually think she'd have an update ready in a couple days? Nope.
 

tehlemon

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lmao, that update.

Lets start with the obvious; she said she was going to temporarily wrap up Nyan's shit a month ago. And that it would take a month to get the fields out. It took her three weeks (or was it five? Was that two posts ago, or one?) to wrap up Nyan's quest, without really adding much, and the fields are not likely going to be ready for "two" more weeks. Which in Inno terms means six weeks, minimum.

I absolutely stand by my claim that it takes her a full week per single screen's worth of writing.

Also, having gone through her code, it's kind of amazing to see that the contributors appear to have done the hard work for this patch. Well, the work that would be hard if all programmers involved were equal. I have a feeling one contributor in particular is way overqualified to be working on this project team lol

A lot of the features she added, assuming she's not a complete idiot, should have been pretty quick and easy additions. The hard work was already done, she just needed to call the right methods in the right order. Stuff like importing a character and making them a guest would have taken me an evening, working with her code, not mine.

The way these patch notes are being written these days, it's clear she's trying to pad them out and put her best foot forward. Which is why the contributors are being listed first. I didn't intend that to be as funny as it ended up being lol

But hey, they fixed a lot of the menu and flag errors. And they did finally add a couple obvious slave management features that were missing. So dope. And I'm betting a lot of what she got side tracked on was making shit easier for the contributors to add... uh... I don't actually know what. But hey! Time spent adding category locked stat points into the skill tree that's probably going to need to be dropped entirely down the line whenever we start thinking about actually redesigning the games progression to actually include... progression...
 

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lmao, that update.

Lets start with the obvious; she said she was going to temporarily wrap up Nyan's shit a month ago. And that it would take a month to get the fields out. It took her three weeks (or was it five? Was that two posts ago, or one?) to wrap up Nyan's quest, without really adding much, and the fields are not likely going to be ready for "two" more weeks. Which in Inno terms means six weeks, minimum.

I absolutely stand by my claim that it takes her a full week per single screen's worth of writing.

Also, having gone through her code, it's kind of amazing to see that the contributors appear to have done the hard work for this patch. Well, the work that would be hard if all programmers involved were equal. I have a feeling one contributor in particular is way overqualified to be working on this project team lol

A lot of the features she added, assuming she's not a complete idiot, should have been pretty quick and easy additions. The hard work was already done, she just needed to call the right methods in the right order. Stuff like importing a character and making them a guest would have taken me an evening, working with her code, not mine.

The way these patch notes are being written these days, it's clear she's trying to pad them out and put her best foot forward. Which is why the contributors are being listed first. I didn't intend that to be as funny as it ended up being lol

But hey, they fixed a lot of the menu and flag errors. And they did finally add a couple obvious slave management features that were missing. So dope. And I'm betting a lot of what she got side tracked on was making shit easier for the contributors to add... uh... I don't actually know what. But hey! Time spent adding category locked stat points into the skill tree that's probably going to need to be dropped entirely down the line whenever we start thinking about actually redesigning the games progression to actually include... progression...
it would be interesting to see how much she work she does each update compared to her just nabbing community fixes/content.

oh, and 0.4 is coming out in two weeks! 1613898783137.png
 
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Laki IH

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I tried this one out a bit over a year ago, and was pretty well impressed, but looking at this thread now I see a lot of negativity. This makes me sad. Still though, a lot of the concepts here are an inspiration towards my own work (which might even be realized some day!), so it'll always have a soft spot in my heart. I remember reading in some patch notes some time ago that the Companion system was removed; has it returned and if not is there a link somewhere to the last version which had it?
 

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will rando characters get deafult drawings for their morphs ?
This will probably never happen.

It would be great if there was some kind of character avatar creator that could generate a portrait from the stats, but the sheer number of options presents a huge obstacle. Consider that there are 125 variations of torso without taking breasts into account (5 kinds of muscle tone, 5 sizes, 5 gender types).
 
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anon707

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This will probably never happen.

It would be great if there was some kind of character avatar creator that could generate a portrait from the stats, but the sheer number of options presents a huge obstacle. Consider that there are 125 variations of torso without taking breasts into account (5 kinds of muscle tone, 5 sizes, 5 gender types).
CoC 1 tried this, and then dropped support for it because trying to generate literally all the possibilities of body parts, body types, sizes, etc is just not possible. not to mention whatever modded races that people add. If there's anything to learn from CoC, it to not repeat its mistakes.
 

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Reworked Pix's gym so that exercising no longer drains health, and instead applies a 'post-workout fatigue' status effect. Exercising in the gym now also grants progress towards unlocking physical perk points.
What does that mean exactly? Does going to the gym increase your physics stat? Or do you get free physique perks from the talent tree?
 
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This is incredibly fucking annoying. How the fuck do you make this little progress within a FUCKING MONTH. Like Jesus fucking christ dude. I get that it is free, but god damn dude.
 
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How far does the main story currently go?

I haven't played this in a while and I vaguely remember that the countryside unlocked after a showdown with the demon mom.
How much further does it go after that? Has there been any significant progress, because the changelogs look like it's all contributor stuff and extra clothes and even more obscure races I don't really want to fuck.
 
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