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Belle

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Belle There's a bug with variables, if you choose the receive a blowjob from Erato you automatically loose the status of "virgin", I've dissapointly discovered it with the fairy queen quest, even thinking about would make no sense otherwise this might be aswell removed with Belle early on.
I mean, is that even wrong? Admittedly, the differentiation between sex and non-sex is kind of arbitrary in LLtP, but I'm sure any young virgin man who got a blowjob from someone would proudly boast he's no longer a virgin.

On the other hand, LLtP doesn't consider blowjobs to be real sex from an achievement perspective. It gets confusing.

I'd rather not patch something that is so poorly defined by both the game and society in the first place, especially so long after the game was finished.
 

luchettodj94

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I mean, is that even wrong? Admittedly, the differentiation between sex and non-sex is kind of arbitrary in LLtP, but I'm sure any young virgin man who got a blowjob from someone would proudly boast he's no longer a virgin.

On the other hand, LLtP doesn't consider blowjobs to be real sex from an achievement perspective. It gets confusing.

I'd rather not patch something that is so poorly defined by both the game and society in the first place, especially so long after the game was finished.
I understand your thinking and is not too far away from mine since i believe the word "virgin" for males is just a mental coat, derogatory more often then no, however as Belle and Neil already gave this one to mc and the variable didn't dropped so would make no sense to have a piece yes and the other no, more so everything that rotate aroud to that specific event.

Edit; talking about bugs seem sometimes the investigation can easily accept some other clues however unless you don't use em in a specific order it will give error, plus the mc might start talking about clues he didn't have any idea about, in this specific case: if you didn't talked with Samarra before the mc says that she have a decisive clue about the murder that you obv you don't know, a this point in just all speculation, if you already talked with Samarra you can't use the clue of the milk even if perfectly fit cause "there is time and place for everything, but not now"
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glaurung

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I mean, is that even wrong? Admittedly, the differentiation between sex and non-sex is kind of arbitrary in LLtP, but I'm sure any young virgin man who got a blowjob from someone would proudly boast he's no longer a virgin.

On the other hand, LLtP doesn't consider blowjobs to be real sex from an achievement perspective. It gets confusing.

I'd rather not patch something that is so poorly defined by both the game and society in the first place, especially so long after the game was finished.
I don't see any contradiction or confusion. The achievements track "anal or vaginal sex," and that phrase appears in the achievements list repeatedly. The fairy queen interaction uses a broader definition.
 

glaurung

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Always up for any kind of harem stuff. I'll check this out.
Be aware: The tag is inaccurate. This isn't a harem game. The tag is based on misreading one of the bad endings the MC turns evil and uses his magic to turn everyone into his mindless slaves. But that's a bad ending, with no epilogue. In the game's good ending, you have to choose one (or at most two) of the girlfriends you've had a relationship with during the game.
 

luchettodj94

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I don't see any contradiction or confusion. The achievements track "anal or vaginal sex," and that phrase appears in the achievements list repeatedly. The fairy queen interaction uses a broader definition.
I would give you right if wouldn't exist a exacly variable about what virgin is, if you go with Erato you automatically trigger it to off no matter what, the trigger just need to be moved after that choice, if not all bj and hj scenes before and after need to have this definition.
 

AccidentalGryffindor

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Be aware: The tag is inaccurate. This isn't a harem game. The tag is based on misreading one of the bad endings the MC turns evil and uses his magic to turn everyone into his mindless slaves. But that's a bad ending, with no epilogue. In the game's good ending, you have to choose one (or at most two) of the girlfriends you've had a relationship with during the game.
You can technically get up to three if you have Belle as your lover; the princesses accept that since she's invisible she won't cause the scandal other paramours might bring. Not sure what happens to Belle when you're on the sister/Callie route.

Also I consider having more than one lover simultaneously to fall under Harem as a genre, not sure of the exact tag definitions.
 

glaurung

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Hello
Can I ask what type of NTR is in this Game?
Evelyn (one of the game's love interests) is a crack negotiator for the town. She uses all of her assets to negotiate better deals. Most days, Evelyn is in meetings with Thaddeus (stat upgrader and clue giver). If you try to talk to Thaddeus when his portrait is next to hers on the map, you see them kissing. If you do not interrupt, and try a second time to talk to him when he's busy with her, you see an oral scene, and the third time, an anal scene (and the scenes repeat after that if you are silly enough to keep not interrupting them). If you interrupt them, at any time, then it stops completely and forever.

The only consequence of stopping them is it switches off a small weekly amount of money (and money is not very important in this game). The only consequence of not stopping them is it makes Evelyn *much* harder to seduce.

I usually avoid looking in on them until I no longer need money, then interrupt. But interrupting them the first chance you can (not possible before day 8, I think) also works, you just have to do a little more grinding to get the cash you need for training.

There is no other NTR content in the game.
 
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Yurei

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Aug 6, 2017
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Just finished this game.

I really enjoy the story and the kind of retry to unlock content that we miss the first time when we play the game. Loving the sensation of rpg with improve stats, with acquire skill etc.

A lot of mech in this game with trying to discover secrets etc.

I find the characters touching, each with their own personalities, and they're not clones of each other. And well belle was a really funny companion and fairy.

I wish more game could be like that, a nice story, a bit of mech rpg (stats, skills) without being just a grinding game (as foot of the mountains), a ng+ really well made.

The only thing that i would wish a little bit improved is the ending with the lover we choose. Just a little bit longer would have been nice.

But except that, really great game. If some people know a game who look like this one, don't hesitate to answer.
 

SiegSylverst

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Now i understand why this one is a must play. The game is a complex VN, so anything you do may affect the outcome. The characters are written well, it's fun to read the interaction with each characters. The storytelling is nicely delivered, with a bunch of "sherlock holmes" solving stuff.

Looking for clues, solve the mystery. This is the main feature of this game. With a side stuff like raising status, giving the game feels more alive. And the post-epilogue reminds me of steins;gate, i like it you try to foreshadow it from the start. What a well-made game.
 
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Now i understand why this one is a must play. The game is a complex VN, so anything you do may affect the outcome. The characters are written well, it's fun to read the interaction with each characters. The storytelling is nicely delivered, with a bunch of "sherlock holmes" solving stuff.

Looking for clues, solve the mystery. This is the main feature of this game. With a side stuff like raising status, giving the game feels more alive. And the post-epilogue reminds me of steins;gate, i like it you try to foreshadow it from the start. What a well-made game.
The pathing and variable linking in this is second to none. The choices and player agency in LLTP are outstanding. A lot of Devs need to take a look at how Belle did it.
 

Yurei

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Now i understand why this one is a must play.
That's why i decided to do a signature with a fan sign of this game today. Even if the game is popular (right now, more than 1049 page of comment), this gem must be knowed and played.

Like that if some people don't know this game, with my few post here and there, maybe some will be curious and will click on the fan sign who will bring them here. (and i choose belle because well, as i was saying in my post previously, she is really funny and in some way a cutie).
 

Ranzo

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Still really confused about when Callie decides to ask you out
I've been working for her and porking her for days now to no avail
 

glaurung

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Still really confused about when Callie decides to ask you out
I've been working for her and porking her for days now to no avail
Callie's opinion of the MC depends on both working for her and asking her for fashion shows. Getting boyfriend status with her requires doing enough of both. If doing more work shifts doesn't help, then you probably need to see more shows (make sure you've seen every possible outfit at least once, and done the naked shows until they become repetitive). Also, if she ever asks you to do an all day shift of work, say yes - I'm not sure if an all day shift is required or if it just gives a big boost to the work counter, but I don't remeber having success with Callie's relationship path without doing an all day shift.

Once you've fulfilled her requirements, when you talk to her, she'll invite you on a picnic, and on the picnic you're given the choice of becoming a couple or just staying friends with benefits.

Note, however, that if you've done any threesomes with her and Evelyn at all, then the couple path with her is blocked and you'll never get the picnic invite (you can either be on a couple path or on the throuple/threesome path with her, they're mutually exclusive).

Compared to getting the couple invite, the throuple invite requires even more work, more shows, and doing enough threesomes (I think at least three). Finally, after the first threesome, she has to have a chance to talk to you about it (at least once for me, getting the throuple invite did not happen until I went and talked to Callie, allowing her to finally deliver the "let's pretend it never happened" dialog about the first threesome).
 
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glaurung

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That is so ridiculously convoluted
TL DR -

a. You cannot become Callie's boyfriend if you have ever had a threesome with her and Evelyn.

b. to become Callie's boyfriend, 1, have sex with her a few times, 2, avoid the threesome thing. Then: 3, work for her (mornings) and 4, see all of her outfits and permutations (afternoons), until she invites you on a picnic.

c. if she asks you to work for her all day, say yes.
 

glaurung

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Just curious. can we creeps on princess at night?
At night, no, just the five women who live in town - Callie, Primrose, Evelyn, Nell and Samarra.

In the afternoons, you can creep on a mysterious woman who bathes in the river. But it's much more limited creeping than the night scenes in town. It turns out she is in fact a princess, but by the time you figure that out, she no longer appears at the river
 
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Kei11112

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At night, no, just the five women who live in town - Callie, Primrose, Evelyn, Nell and Samarra.

In the afternoons, you can creep on a mysterious woman who bathes in the river. But it's much more limited creeping than the night scenes in town. It turns out she is in fact a princess, but by the time you figure that out, she no longer appears at the river
About nell. we can't fuck her at night right?
 
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