enkephalin07

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This is off to a crawlingly slow start. I'm not convinced it's ever going to take off.

How come it doesn't occur to anyone that whoever had a motive to murder the truthsayer may have a motive to murder the MC? That seems like a detail that would go in the jacket liner notes: "An apprentice whose teacher has been murdered."
 
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ed3k47

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just wondering if there are any consequences yet, if the mc leaves his cum on the girl you molested at night yet? Also, the girl at the river, is there anything that comes of it, the mc masturbated on her and then I have not seen her back yet, or is she just there at certain days? And with Nell and Primrose, i selected to be friends with both of them, with primrose though, I thought it was going to be friends with benefits, but after that first sex scene, there was nothing after that, unless the dark secret will take care of that, and with nell, except getting the handjob when you remove the inhabit spell, i am guessing there will be more after her dark secret as well?
 

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just wondering if there are any consequences yet, if the mc leaves his cum on the girl you molested at night yet? Also, the girl at the river, is there anything that comes of it, the mc masturbated on her and then I have not seen her back yet, or is she just there at certain days? And with Nell and Primrose, i selected to be friends with both of them, with primrose though, I thought it was going to be friends with benefits, but after that first sex scene, there was nothing after that, unless the dark secret will take care of that, and with nell, except getting the handjob when you remove the inhabit spell, i am guessing there will be more after her dark secret as well?
I think you chose the wrong path with both and missing out on some good scenes.
 

RoadWulf

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just wondering if there are any consequences yet, if the mc leaves his cum on the girl you molested at night yet? Also, the girl at the river, is there anything that comes of it, the mc masturbated on her and then I have not seen her back yet, or is she just there at certain days? And with Nell and Primrose, i selected to be friends with both of them, with primrose though, I thought it was going to be friends with benefits, but after that first sex scene, there was nothing after that, unless the dark secret will take care of that, and with nell, except getting the handjob when you remove the inhabit spell, i am guessing there will be more after her dark secret as well?
At the moment, there is nothing in the game that actually prevents you from having both Prim and Nell as your girlfriends. But the option to deny someone was left in there by Belle (The developer, not the Cuss Pixie) for people who want to pick one life long girl and not cheat on her. Which is an option. Now if that's what you want then you didn't want either of them and one of the future ones will be your choice.

If a girl has already offered you to be her Boyfriend, and you turn her down, sex is no longer on the table. Dark Secrets might give you access to a Domination route, but who knows. The only one we've been told for sure about is the sister. The Dark Secret is the only way to access her sustained romance route. Or will be in a future release.
 

RoadWulf

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Where is the link to the latest walkthrough?
There isn't one, there isn't going to be one unless someone here writes one. Belle did not do the first one, the guy who did is no longer around. Belle is not going to write one. If you'd like to volunteer, go ahead, if you have specific question, ask it.
 
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Goblin Baily: DILF

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At the moment, there is nothing in the game that actually prevents you from having both Prim and Nell as your girlfriends. But the option to deny someone was left in there by Belle (The developer, not the Cuss Pixie) for people who want to pick one life long girl and not cheat on her. Which is an option. Now if that's what you want then you didn't want either of them and one of the future ones will be your choice.

If a girl has already offered you to be her Boyfriend, and you turn her down, sex is no longer on the table. Dark Secrets might give you access to a Domination route, but who knows. The only one we've been told for sure about is the sister. The Dark Secret is the only way to access her sustained romance route. Or will be in a future release.
Sis darkest secret is her unending love for MC
 

ed3k47

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At the moment, there is nothing in the game that actually prevents you from having both Prim and Nell as your girlfriends. But the option to deny someone was left in there by Belle (The developer, not the Cuss Pixie) for people who want to pick one life long girl and not cheat on her. Which is an option. Now if that's what you want then you didn't want either of them and one of the future ones will be your choice.

If a girl has already offered you to be her Boyfriend, and you turn her down, sex is no longer on the table. Dark Secrets might give you access to a Domination route, but who knows. The only one we've been told for sure about is the sister. The Dark Secret is the only way to access her sustained romance route. Or will be in a future release.
thanks wulf, and what about the girl at the river and do you know if there are any consequences yet on leaving cum on any of the girls that you molest during the night? I dont mind if i have to reload a back save to open those options, i was just curious.
 
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thanks wulf, and what about the girl at the river and do you know if there are any consequences yet on leaving cum on any of the girls that you molest during the night? I dont mind if i have to reload a back save to open those options, i was just curious.
She hasn't been rightfully introduced yet, so there is no clue as to the consequences of that might be. As far as other girls you may have cum on at night, no there is currently no consequence other than the "Suspicion" rising.
 

ed3k47

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She hasn't been rightfully introduced yet, so there is no clue as to the consequences of that might be. As far as other girls you may have cum on at night, no there is currently no consequence other than the "Suspicion" rising.
thanks again
 

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@Belle I've just come back to this game after several updates and noticed what I think is a serious problem with the Samara character backstory. This is diving into serious territory, which I know is off-brand for both porn games in general and you're storytelling style in particular but I hope you'll bear with me. When Samara talks about the Fomorians past, specifically their dark skin being a product of (or reminder of) them being possessed by demons and committing great sins as a race, for which they now must pay penance, you're (I hope unconsciously) mirroring white supremacist language used both before and after the Civil War to justify the domination of African Americans. It was called "The Curse of Ham" trope and was used by Southern white preachers especially to explain why slavery (and later forms of discrimination) were morally justified. They proclaimed (and may have believed) black people had been, in biblical times, cursed by god as a race to be subhuman, possessing an innate tenancy towards sin and violence, especially rape and murder. The mark of this curse was their black skin. Now before anyone jumps on me for being a Social Justice Warrior, I'm finishing my Masters in History right now, so I'm saying this with a fair bit of authority and am willing to back this up with reputable sources. And yes, I know that this game is 1) a work of fiction and 2) a porn game, and therefore outside the pale of this type of serious discussion. But listening to this stuff come out of the mouth of the only person of color in your game gave me serious concern. I am IN NO WAY calling you a racist and I am perfectly willing to believe that you were completely unaware of what you were doing. That's why I'm telling you. To fix this problem, you don't have to rewrite the entire Fomorian lore but I would recommend rewriting the references to black skin and maybe try to make it less explicitly about race. I hope this feedback helps make this game even better than it already is.
 

Rebeldad

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ok..as ive had to redo the dellfromhell since my last playthrough of this game..i've zero saves..if anyone would be kind enough to either direct me to..or provide me with a save for about v13 i'd be very appreciative...also..info on how to change the MC's name in the save to Rob...i think i'm the only Rob here :O
I have a save from last time i played either version 13 or 14 .. think 14 if that is ok buddy.
 
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Sis darkest secret is her unending love for MC
Most people seem to assume this. Here's a teaser: You're all wrong. Evelyn's dark secret is darker than that. I mean, her love isn't much of a secret at this point, is it?

@Belle I've just come back to this game after several updates and noticed what I think is a serious problem with the Samara character backstory. This is diving into serious territory, which I know is off-brand for both porn games in general and you're storytelling style in particular but I hope you'll bear with me. When Samara talks about the Fomorians past, specifically their dark skin being a product of (or reminder of) them being possessed by demons and committing great sins as a race, for which they now must pay penance, you're (I hope unconsciously) mirroring white supremacist language used both before and after the Civil War to justify the domination of African Americans. It was called "The Curse of Ham" trope and was used by Southern white preachers especially to explain why slavery (and later forms of discrimination) were morally justified. They proclaimed (and may have believed) black people had been, in biblical times, cursed by god as a race to be subhuman, possessing an innate tenancy towards sin and violence, especially rape and murder. The mark of this curse was their black skin. Now before anyone jumps on me for being a Social Justice Warrior, I'm finishing my Masters in History right now, so I'm saying this with a fair bit of authority and am willing to back this up with reputable sources. And yes, I know that this game is 1) a work of fiction and 2) a porn game, and therefore outside the pale of this type of serious discussion. But listening to this stuff come out of the mouth of the only person of color in your game gave me serious concern. I am IN NO WAY calling you a racist and I am perfectly willing to believe that you were completely unaware of what you were doing. That's why I'm telling you. To fix this problem, you don't have to rewrite the entire Fomorian lore but I would recommend rewriting the references to black skin and maybe try to make it less explicitly about race. I hope this feedback helps make this game even better than it already is.
It's the second time someone has mentioned this to me. First of all, I strongly oppose any kind of racism and don't want to write something that could be used to support it. However, I'm not convinced that Samarra's backstory can be used in that way. She's not a black person as seen from a real-world perspective. Her race (to call it that. It would be more accurate to call it a nationality) is from the same parts of the world as the rest of known humanity in this setting. It would be strange if they were black while everyone else (except Fey, I guess) were white after living in a desert region for just a few hundred years. Most importantly, they are victims, not perpetrators.

Look at it from this perspective: There is no such thing as human races in the LLtP setting. Humans are Caucasian-looking (the default fantasy trope. If anything, this is what I should be criticized for), fey have Asian features (with some inhuman modifications), and the Fomorians, so irrevocably changed, both mentally and physically, by the demon possession as to be truly considered a different race at this point, are black.

I find the discussion interesting, and while it would be a pretty simple thing to change a line of dialogue to erase this line of conversation entirely, it would create different questions instead. I'm not convinced that it's the right way to go.
 
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