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gobbet

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Ah, shoot. Now I have to go back from day 22 all over again. Thanks for the tip
No, you don't, that's exactly what I was talking about being wrong with the walkthrough. The day number literally does not matter. Find Samara in her tent and talk to her. If she's not there, go back on another day. The events in this game, other than a few one off things like Samara and Nell's arrival, are cyclical.
 
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wormenator

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When I go to the crone to train spellcasting she asks for 15 copper and 6 uses of Invade Mind. I have more than that in gold and have used invade 7 times but my only option is to refuse to pay. Am I missing something or is it a bug?
 

MysteryCrabs

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When I go to the crone to train spellcasting she asks for 15 copper and 6 uses of Invade Mind. I have more than that in gold and have used invade 7 times but my only option is to refuse to pay. Am I missing something or is it a bug?
Gold or copper? Because silver and gold are not actually implemented and are likely to be removed.
 
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wait this game has ntr ? The only type of NTR i see is netori, and that's not really the NTR people are afraid of, isn't it ? Unless i miss something, i never tried the sex friend route with primose so idk
 

WTFosaurus

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When I go to the crone to train spellcasting she asks for 15 copper and 6 uses of Invade Mind. I have more than that in gold and have used invade 7 times but my only option is to refuse to pay. Am I missing something or is it a bug?
The 15 copper training session only requires 3 uses of invade mind. The one after that requires 30 copper pieces and 6 uses of invade mind.
 
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goobdoob

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wait this game has ntr ? The only type of NTR i see is netori, and that's not really the NTR people are afraid of, isn't it ? Unless i miss something, i never tried the sex friend route with primose so idk
Some people say the Thaddius scenes (before you start getting with Evelyn) are NTR. They are not, but you know...
 

Avaron1974

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wait this game has ntr ? The only type of NTR i see is netori, and that's not really the NTR people are afraid of, isn't it ? Unless i miss something, i never tried the sex friend route with primose so idk
No, it doesn't. It's not nor has it ever been an NTR game.

It has a couple of scenes with the sister and Thad. Some people complained about that until the tag was added.
 

MysteryCrabs

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Some people say the Thaddius scenes (before you start getting with Evelyn) are NTR. They are not, but you know...
By the definition of the tag on the forum (sexual scene between two npcs intended to cause jealousy in the player), it qualifies. We could certainly argue the finer points of the term NTR itself, but in the case of the tag, it's inclusion is proper by the forum rules.
 

EZ8lt

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No, it doesn't. It's not nor has it ever been an NTR game.

It has a couple of scenes with the sister and Thad. Some people complained about that until the tag was added.
Blame the hentai artists in Japan who shifted the general meaning from couples cheating to crush or some close person that you'd might harbor some feelings getting fucked being an NTR as well. That's what gave those whiners a foundation.
 

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Blame the hentai artists in Japan who shifted the general meaning from couples cheating to crush or some close person that you'd might harbor some feelings getting fucked being an NTR as well. That's what gave those whiners a foundation.
That's where the term originated, though (that is, within the ero media community). It's a neologism that appeared only in the late 90s surrounding ero VNs and doujinshi. The content it was used to describe is older than the term itself. An established relationship is not needed, but there needs to be mutual affection (without mutual affection, it's called BSS). Given the informal nature of the term though, there's argument about it everywhere. Especially the BSS scenarios are recently parodied heavily in media as a form of entitlement.
 
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Antosha

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That's where the term originated, though (that is, within the ero media community). It's a neologism that appeared only in the late 90s surrounding ero VNs and doujinshi. The content it was used to describe is older than the term itself. An established relationship is not needed, but there needs to be mutual affection (without mutual affection, it's called BSS). Given the informal nature of the term though, there's argument about it everywhere. Especially the BSS scenarios are recently parodied heavily in media as a form of entitlement.
:sigh: Mostly, I get that, however it happens to be defined, there are people for whom it's a huge squick, and others for whom it's a huge turn on. As someone for whom it's neither, the endless (frequently heated) conversations in just about every thread about what does and doesn't constitute NTR/netorare/netori/whatever get more than a bit tedious. Which I am willing if not happy to admit is my problem.
 

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:sigh: Mostly, I get that, however it happens to be defined, there are people for whom it's a huge squick, and others for whom it's a huge turn on. As someone for whom it's neither, the endless (frequently heated) conversations in just about every thread about what does and doesn't constitute NTR/netorare/netori/whatever get more than a bit tedious. Which I am willing if not happy to admit is my problem.
The issue is that the word does not accurately describe what people like or dislike, which is why there is an argument. It would be much simpler if people just said things like "I don't like seeing a potential love interest have sex with someone else" or "I like to see the MC's wife get corrupted by having sex with another man". People just like to lean on terms in order to get more people in their "group" because there is greater overlap. If they are using a "term" then they look less willful as it's something common enough to enter language
 

Antosha

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The issue is that the word does not accurately describe what people like or dislike, which is why there is an argument. It would be much simpler if people just said things like "I don't like seeing a potential love interest have sex with someone else" or "I like to see the MC's wife get corrupted by having sex with another man". People just like to lean on terms in order to get more people in their "group" because there is greater overlap. If they are using a "term" then they look less willful as it's something common enough to enter language
I get that, honestly, and I agree, the imprecision of the language is a problem. (We can talk about the philosophical problem of language's imperfection in general another day. ;) )

I'm just saying that, as someone who couldn't care less either way, knowing that the minute any of the currently-in-use words pops up in a thread, that's all the thread is going to talk about for pages and pages — it gets a bit old.
 

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I love this game, but I also find it incredibly frustrating the more I look into it... It constantly seems to punish you and hide content from you based on your decisions. I put so much effort into proving Primroses innocence on time.. I thought I did the right thing that would allow me to see all the content, but what do I find when skimming the walkthrough? By doing that I am denied an entire section where Prim is in a cell and I can get her to be naked in there and have fun visits with her. So the game actively punishes me for playing well...

..and then I see there's all sorts of confusing decisions about rejecting/accepting advances (with no indications of which content I will arbitrarily be blocked from for choosing one or another) and well as choosing if girls are girlfriends or just friends without knowing if that means I'm being blocked from content with other characters as a result. What should be a fun experience of opening new content is becoming more and more a struggle against the games attempts to permanently block me from it's content. It's infuriating.
 
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