Ren'Py Completed Long Live the Princess [v1.0.1] [Belle]

[Crimsonfiend76]

I'm letting patrons/subscribers at the higher levels vote for the order. This resulted in Callie getting the priority in 0.36, but if the vote results last time are anything to go by, I expect we won't have to wait too long for that spell to get added.

Since the endings are not completely finished, will you consider adding a modified or mini-harem ending? As in maybe not everyone but maybe 2-3 girls to end with? Or hell, even a full harem at this point if mc is able to learn that last spell from the girl at the library (blanking on names today)? Might as well considering I’ve impregnated them all, lol.

 

[cxx]

Since the endings are not completely finished, will you consider adding a modified or mini-harem ending? As in maybe not everyone but maybe 2-3 girls to end with? Or hell, even a full harem at this point if mc is able to learn that last spell from the girl at the library (blanking on names today)? Might as well considering I’ve impregnated them all, lol.

primrose.

mc ends up with 2 girls already on 1 path.

 

[Belle]

Since the endings are not completely finished, will you consider adding a modified or mini-harem ending? As in maybe not everyone but maybe 2-3 girls to end with? Or hell, even a full harem at this point if mc is able to learn that last spell from the girl at the library (blanking on names today)? Might as well considering I’ve impregnated them all, lol.

Ask me again after 0.36 is out. Callie is an important missing piece in this equation.

But no, I'm unlikely to make any major changes to the epilogues at this point except to add more variations as the need arises (such as with Callie's romance path). I will make smaller changes where I see the need. For example, 0.35 adds a few extra lines to the Fairy Queen's epilogue about why she doesn't become an ambassador (which I thought was a good point brought up in this thread).

But there won't be a "proper" harem ending. It just does not make sense for this story and these characters, and it never will.

 

[cxx]

some screenshots.

poor belle the fairy and fairy queen.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

primrose.

mc ends up with 2 girls already on 1 path.

Yes Primrose, as far as the other 2, I already chose that as my canon ending, but as that was more of a surprise development in the endgame portion, I was specifically referring to the girls the mc romanced/seduced over the course of the game itself.

Just spitballing ideas here, but it could be justified that the mc takes over for Marek, his former master and inspired by Primrose wanting to learn magic, but cannot since she lacks the talent, the mc decides to try and increase the amount of truthsayers and magic users by spreading his seed and with number of women pregnant with his child, he hopes to increase the odds of those talented and can be taught what they need to know to reintroduce and increase the number of potential truthsayers that will go on and eventually replace him serving the crown.

And given his new status and the respect of those befitting his position, no one has much of an issue with his polyamorous relationships since it is seen as work on behalf of the crown and those who wish to raise a generation of future spell casters in their families.

Sorry for the crazy rant, just got carried away.

 

[cxx]

sure spreading the seed is 1 way but better way would be multiple mages like mc making babies, for example marek didn't make any.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

some screenshots.

poor belle the fairy and fairy queen.

Lol that’s why I chose to keep Belle around-she’s too much of an awesome sidekick and friend to just abandon, (just wish there was a way for her and the mc to actually have intercouse) and was glad to have the option to Romance and end up with Thorn.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

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sure spreading the seed is 1 way but better way would be multiple mages like mc making babies, for example marek didn't make any.

Sure but the impression I got was that while there were mages, like Thaddeus, they were still somewhat rare and in case of truthsayers, all but almost extinct. If it’s possible to breed those with the potential to learn and become spellcasters, it’s a selfish way to justify maintaining the existing relationships the mc already made over the course of the game.

 

[cxx]

no belle ending unless mc learns sizechange somewhere.

 

[Belle]

Just spitballing ideas here, but it could be justified that the mc takes over for Marek, his former master and inspired by Primrose wanting to learn magic, but cannot since she lacks the talent, the mc decides to try and increase the amount of truthsayers and magic users by spreading his seed and with number of women pregnant with his child, he hopes to increase the odds of those talented and can be taught what they need to know to reintroduce and increase the number of potential truthsayers that will go on and eventually replace him serving the crown.

And given his new status and the respect of those befitting his position, no one has much of an issue with his polyamorous relationships since it is seen as work on behalf of the crown and those who wish to raise a generation of future spell casters in their families.

No offense, but you just perfectly encapsulated the big problem with this kind of concept: it completely, utterly disregards the feelings and opinions of the women in the story, treating them more as objects than actual people, a commodity to be traded around for your entertainment. There may be a historical precedent for that, but it's not even remotely close to the theme and ideas I want to convey with LLtP.

By sleeping around in this story, you are going behind the backs of almost all the women you flirt with. They're not going to just go "oh, okay" when they learn about this. More likely, they'll be furious with you. You'd be lucky to keep any relationships at all. Only in those cases where the women were already clearly accepting of this, such as with Lilith/Selena or Belle, does this work. Or if you accept a demon's essence inside your mind and body, corrupting your thoughts and emotions and turning you into a power-mad despot perfectly willing to erase people's personalities to turn them into your idealized version of who you want them to be.

Edit: Oh, and as for the truthsayer hereditary thing, the game strongly implies that truthsaying tends to become latent in a bloodline, emerging only occasionally and randomly. Neither Selena nor Lilith are truthsayers, yet they both carry that ability inside them for their progeny to maybe inherit (or at least carry on to their offspring, and so on). The challenge isn't to find someone with truthsaying in their blood. The challenge is to find someone who actually gains the effects of this mostly latent ability.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

No offense, but you just perfectly encapsulated the big problem with this kind of concept: it completely, utterly disregards the feelings and opinions of the women in the story, treating them more as objects than actual people, a commodity to be traded around for your entertainment. There may be a historical precedent for that, but it's not even remotely close to the theme and ideas I want to convey with LLtP.

By sleeping around in this story, you are going behind the backs of almost all the women you flirt with. They're not going to just go "oh, okay" when they learn about this. More likely, they'll be furious with you. You'd be lucky to keep any relationships at all. Only in those cases where the women were already clearly accepting of this, such as with Lilith/Selena or Belle, does this work. Or if you accept a demon's essence inside your mind and body, corrupting your thoughts and emotions and turning you into a power-mad despot perfectly willing to erase people's personalities to turn them into your idealized version of who you want them to be.

I get your point, but the last thing I wanted to do was hurt those who were in a relationship with the mc only to be left behind at the end. Sorry, just got a little greedy hoping for a scenario where everyone is mostly happy at end, even if it’s to ease my own conscience, but I get that’s not realistic.

That said, if the mc is already being ‘shared’ by Callie and Evelyn, why would they not be able to just continue with the way things were going since despite her initial apprehension, Callie is more than fine with their threesomes?

 

[Belle]

That said, if the mc is already being ‘shared’ by Callie and Evelyn, why would they not be able to just continue with the way things were going since despite her initial apprehension, Callie is more than fine with their threesomes?

You will enjoy version 0.36, I can tell.

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

You will enjoy version 0.36, I can tell.

Ahh, yet another reason to look forward to that update, lol just when I thought I was done....while I was enjoying the Selena/Lilith ending, I have to be honest, I’m inclined to change my mind to Evelyn/Callie canon ending since my mc is obviously more emotionally invested and attached to them over the other sisters...even if it means missing out on being the king.

With the main portion of the game completed, what’s the purpose of having the deep sleep spell? Was there going to be some DLC content later down the line?

 

[jaw1986baby]

Belle I believe the last save I have is after starting end game maybe ver .33 or so. If I want to see the game again due to the time it has been and see the early game improvements, would completing it and going to NG+ be the best option?

I feel like yes but I want to check for certain.

Thanks

 

[Belle]

With the main portion of the game completed, what’s the purpose of having the deep sleep spell? Was there going to be some DLC content later down the line?

The full purpose of that spell hasn't been revealed, but it's not necessary for the main story. That might change as I do the final balance pass later, but I don't think that spell is ever going to be important outside of a very specific scenario.

I don't understand the DLC comment. The game isn't complete. Why would I need to add DLC?

 

[Crimsonfiend76]

My mistake I assumed since the main story was complete, that any additional stats and/or spells may be introduced later in case you wanted to add some side stories or additional content set in either an earlier time (like the events that surrounded the previous fairy queen), concurrently through the POV of another character at the time of the impending coronation, or much later either right after, or maybe even years after the events that made up the endgame.

 

[Max1276]

guys somebody knows how i can help Primrose ? i mean about the murder?

 

[CopycatD]

After postponing finding my old save to check out the endgame for a long while, I'm glad I did.

I found the little final adventure fun, but I was also very pleased with the multiple outcomes and the epilogues. I only found out too late (for the time invested) that there wouldn't be a good harem end, and having to face the consequences of my choices in the epilogue was very well done. The introduction to NG+ also felt very good after seeing what my actions caused, instead of straight up feeling like a dead end, you are given a chance to reform (even if that wasn't the intention). I feel it could've been handled worse (as in, to make the player feel worse), but the only epilogue that I actually felt bad for was the Belle spell one and it wasn't my first choice either.

It was a very fun journey, and the story was actually interesting which is something I don't see every day in these types of media.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

No offense, but you just perfectly encapsulated the big problem with this kind of concept: it completely, utterly disregards the feelings and opinions of the women in the story, treating them more as objects than actual people, a commodity to be traded around for your entertainment. There may be a historical precedent for that, but it's not even remotely close to the theme and ideas I want to convey with LLtP.

By sleeping around in this story, you are going behind the backs of almost all the women you flirt with. They're not going to just go "oh, okay" when they learn about this. More likely, they'll be furious with you. You'd be lucky to keep any relationships at all. Only in those cases where the women were already clearly accepting of this, such as with Lilith/Selena or Belle, does this work. Or if you accept a demon's essence inside your mind and body, corrupting your thoughts and emotions and turning you into a power-mad despot perfectly willing to erase people's personalities to turn them into your idealized version of who you want them to be.

I started the game a long time ago; I have to say that I found it interesting and that I liked practically all the LIs. Although it may seem paradoxical, I left it for that very reason: I dislike seeing more than one ending in games, only rarely do I see more than one, and only if I can avoid the first one using the mouse wheel. The number of LIs that interest me in this game is well over 1, so I decided to abandon it before having to choose.

In any case, thanks for the game and good luck.

 

[istlover08]

No offense, but you just perfectly encapsulated the big problem with this kind of concept: it completely, utterly disregards the feelings and opinions of the women in the story, treating them more as objects than actual people, a commodity to be traded around for your entertainment. There may be a historical precedent for that, but it's not even remotely close to the theme and ideas I want to convey with LLtP.

By sleeping around in this story, you are going behind the backs of almost all the women you flirt with. They're not going to just go "oh, okay" when they learn about this. More likely, they'll be furious with you. You'd be lucky to keep any relationships at all. Only in those cases where the women were already clearly accepting of this, such as with Lilith/Selena or Belle, does this work. Or if you accept a demon's essence inside your mind and body, corrupting your thoughts and emotions and turning you into a power-mad despot perfectly willing to erase people's personalities to turn them into your idealized version of who you want them to be.

Edit: Oh, and as for the truthsayer hereditary thing, the game strongly implies that truthsaying tends to become latent in a bloodline, emerging only occasionally and randomly. Neither Selena nor Lilith are truthsayers, yet they both carry that ability inside them for their progeny to maybe inherit (or at least carry on to their offspring, and so on). The challenge isn't to find someone with truthsaying in their blood. The challenge is to find someone who actually gains the effects of this mostly latent ability.

you directly encouraged us to sleep around with the women then decided to said women weren't ok with there being more than one is the issue not to mention the game directly introduces aspects that dont give a shit about how the women feel and just treat them like sexual object *cough*morph sexuality *cough* so i really dont see how an ending like this goes against the theme in any real way