Ren'Py Completed Long Live the Princess [v1.0.1] [Belle]

[Rebeldad]

Is there an updated walk-though for .12?

Not sure honestly. Only saw the one walkthrough on OP and stopped. didnt want to mess up game before next update.

 

[RustyV]

If MC gets into a relationship with Primrose won't that affect how he deals with other women particularly the princess?
It seems there is no way not to hurt Primrose, if you opt out of a relationship she gets hurt, if you get into one with her she'll get hurt when the MC completes the mission by seducing the princess. Not to mention leaving her for Belle after you get her human size(not actually an option) (as far as I know) (yet).

 

[Rebeldad]

If MC gets into a relationship with Primrose won't that affect how he deals with other women particularly the princess?
It seems there is no way not to hurt Primrose, if you opt out of a relationship she gets hurt, if you get into one with her she'll get hurt when the MC completes the mission by seducing the princess. Not to mention leaving her for Belle after you get her human size(not actually an option) (as far as I know) (yet).

Well I think your thinking to much with big brain and not small brain. lol...
But primrose may get hurt and maybe not. If you are smooth and depending on how the story goes.. you may be able to manipulate the princess into giving you funding to support the library and then keep Primrose as a book worm mistress.
I expect to, with great effort, get the princess/Queen to a managable status and either marry her or become her Court Wizard or concubine or hell plain ole King.
I think the writer is doing great and hope he keeps it intelligent. Primrose may be hurt if you leave her but it is obvious that her FIRST love is books and knowledge.
As far as Belle that is simple. Learn the shrink spell, which has already been mentioned, and shrink yourself.. why make her big when you can become small. Being small to me has alot of great story paths. leads to sex with belle obviously but also the classics like running from cats while investigating quest X, getting captured by pixies and being their fuck toy since they have NEVER had a dick before.. god the story there could be a few updates.

 

[Augustus Commodus]

I'm asking because of this screenshot. I didn't have got those options even though I have agility, courage,... at currently max possible value in this version of game.

For me after trying several times I just started going to one side only and stopping after looking at a body part. Then I found a foolproof way to not get caught (just don't visit Samara's tent at night and I never get caught anymore). LOL

Oh, that. After you get caught, you should go home, and a scene with Belle should start. Those options refer to that scene. If that scene isn't triggering, I'll look into the code to see why it happens for me but not you. I'll also put something in the next version of the walkthrough to indicate that those are events happening at different locales.

Is there an updated walk-though for .12?

I posted an updated walkthrough for version 0.12.0 a few pages back. I also sent it to @jande21, but he has neither responded or updated the one in the OP. Maybe he's busy. If he hasn't gotten back to me in a day or 2, I'll resend it.

 

[ut1stgear]

Oh, that. After you get caught, you should go home, and a scene with Belle should start. Those options refer to that scene. If that scene isn't triggering, I'll look into the code to see why it happens for me but not you. I'll also put something in the next version of the walkthrough to indicate that those are events happening at different locales.

You are right the scene with Belle doesn't happen but not a big deal unless it's the scene where she want MC to lick her pussy. I get that all the time but usually reject her due to time constraints and it doesn't affect Belle's relationship. I just don't get it after getting caught and as I said I nver get caught anymore. LOL

 

[Augustus Commodus]

Sorry. Meant to reply to @Idkanythingsmarter. I edited my last post to include his post, but I left yours. Thanks for letting me know about your experience, though. I probably should go code diving again to determine what affects that Belle scene trigger.

 

[joypinse]

whats strange even with the posted save and persistent where the samara scene is not in the gallery
u can still molest them following the walktrough and always get caught
can anyone provide a save right before this scene? thanks

 

[Augustus Commodus]

@Belle, a couple of players have been gracious enough to provide me with their saves. While they aren't from right before Primrose asks Dickon to speak to her that night, some information can be gleaned. The first save is on day 47, the second on day 110. In the first one, it had a modified temporary love score of 1 and resulted in the FWB route. It looks like Primrose was not arrested, perverted is 4 and pushy is -6, so love was probably 5 when the event triggered. In the second one, it also had a modified temporary love score of 1 and resulted in the FWB route. The other variables are also the same, perverted at 4 and pushy at -6, indicating a love of 5 when the event triggered. I hope this is helpful. I hadn't considered it before, but that temp love variable is a valuable snapshot of the moment in question.

Also, I thought of another way you could gather data. Run a poll on Patreon. Usually, you use polls there to ask who is everyone's favorite character or something, but there's nothing that says you can't use it to gather data regarding player experience. You could ask whether or not Primrose was arrested and which route players got.

whats strange even with the posted save and persistent where the samara scene is not in the gallery
u can still molest them following the walktrough and always get caught
can anyone provide a save right before this scene? thanks

The only scene with Samarra in the gallery is the first time you train agility. I'm including a save, just in case. The save is at the stables, but you can just go to the lower training grounds, pay Samarra for agility training and get the scene.

 

[Thermophob]

@Belle, a couple of players have been gracious enough to provide me with their saves. While they aren't from right before Primrose asks Dickon to speak to her that night, some information can be gleaned.

Here is one, immediately in moment when MC goes to library, and speaks with Primrose.

 

[Belle]

I hadn't considered it before, but that temp love variable is a valuable snapshot of the moment in question.

I hadn't considered that myself. Creating "snapshot" variables might be a useful thing for me to do in the future when I want to gather actual player data.

It's interesting to see that both examples ended up with the FWB route. Perhaps I made it too difficult to reach the girlfriend route? I suspected it was the other way around, but I might be completely off. This is for new games, of course. Reaching the girlfriend route is way too easy with existing saves from previous versions.

Also, I thought of another way you could gather data. Run a poll on Patreon. Usually, you use polls there to ask who is everyone's favorite character or something, but there's nothing that says you can't use it to gather data regarding player experience. You could ask whether or not Primrose was arrested and which route players got.

I'll probably run a poll about this kind of thing at some point, but I should probably wait until we have some distance from the event in question. Many players probably haven't played the update or aren't at that point, and many others are using existing saves. There is no rush to get these values right.

 

[Augustus Commodus]

Here is one, immediately in moment when MC goes to library, and speaks with Primrose.

Thank you for the save.

I hadn't considered that myself. Creating "snapshot" variables might be a useful thing for me to do in the future when I want to gather actual player data.

It's interesting to see that both examples ended up with the FWB route. Perhaps I made it too difficult to reach the girlfriend route? I suspected it was the other way around, but I might be completely off. This is for new games, of course. Reaching the girlfriend route is way too easy with existing saves from previous versions.

In the third example that Thermophob graciously provided, Primrose was once again cleared before being arrested. The day is 42. Like is 33, love 18, perverted 1, pushy -1. This one should result in the girlfriend route. So, that's one for the girlfriend route. I'm kind of surprised how high pushy is. This indicates that Thermophob didn't read too much with Primrose or managed to get in a bit of a hole during stage one and then eroded it during stages two and three.

As you mentioned, there's no rush on it, and the data will probably be more valuable once you've introduced those obstacles you mentioned, but some preliminary data doesn't hurt.

 

[Thermophob]

In the third example that Thermophob graciously provided, Primrose was once again cleared before being arrested. The day is 42. Like is 33, love 18, perverted 1, pushy -1. This one should result in the girlfriend route. So, that's one for the girlfriend route. I'm kind of surprised how high pushy is. This indicates that Thermophob didn't read too much with Primrose or managed to get in a bit of a hole during stage one and then eroded it during stages two and three.

Actually, it's quite old gameplay. I started it in February I think. With every new update I was just continuing game from last save. I think that would explain how unusual stats turned to be, there wasn't to much of content with Primrose, except molestation in night. Those were verisons 0.3 and 0.4. And, yes, result of this would be girlfriend. I will try new gameplay on weekend, and see how save would look.

 

[Augustus Commodus]

That would explain it. Most of the perverted and pushy modifiers were added this update. I was also a bit curious about why it didn't happen until day 42. I just figured you hadn't talked to Primrose for a while. Given the like score and the fact that you cleared Primrose with one day remaining, that scene should have triggered on day 24 or 25 of a clean version 0.12.0 playthrough.

 

[Thermophob]

That would explain it. Most of the perverted and pushy modifiers were added this update. I was also a bit curious about why it didn't happen until day 42. I just figured you hadn't talked to Primrose for a while. Given the like score and the fact that you cleared Primrose with one day remaining, that scene should have triggered on day 24 or 25 of a clean version 0.12.0 playthrough.

I got Primrose cleared on day 37, if you are interested, I have that save file too. Like you guessed, there is a lot of holes, caused by end of content with character in specific update.

 

[joypinse]

in the walkthrough molesting leads to "something" with samara (or is it nell?)
these options dont show up for me though
i even got the scene with belle afterwards
but always get caught by samara

 

[Idkanythingsmarter]

Sorry. Meant to reply to @Idkanythingsmarter. I edited my last post to include his post, but I left yours. Thanks for letting me know about your experience, though. I probably should go code diving again to determine what affects that Belle scene trigger.

Thx I thought that this was part of Sammara tent scene. I even considered to run second playtrough to try to achieve this goal. You saved me a lot of time, hehehe.

 

[Idkanythingsmarter]

in the walkthrough molesting leads to "something" with samara (or is it nell?)
these options dont show up for me though
i even got the scene with belle afterwards
but always get caught by samara

If you are reffering on licking part, well I had same question. It was scene with Belle. @Augustus Commodus explained that in few posts before yours.

 

[Augustus Commodus]

Thx I thought that this was part of Sammara tent scene. I even considered to run second playtrough to try to achieve this goal. You saved me a lot of time, hehehe.

Don't mention it. I'm sorry that it wasn't clear in the walkthrough. I'll edit the Belle events in the next version so that they stand out a bit more.

@Belle I had a couple more thoughts concerning some of Primrose's variables. Regarding asking Primrose for her panties, you have it so that if you ask for them before Primrose has a crush on Dickon, her opinion increases +1 perverted and +1 pushy. That's logical, but you have the same increase if Primrose is indifferent toward the player, in which case, when he approaches her, she tells him to come back another time, and Dickon never mentions panties. While +1 pushy there makes sense, the +1 perverted doesn't. On the other hand, there are a few times where a +1 pushy would make sense where there isn't anything now. The best example is when Dickon asks her about the keys to the library. Even through he is trying to help her, he's really pushing, and she's withdrawing into herself. I think a +1 pushy would be apt there. Another candidate would be when you get Primrose to admit that she let the killer into the library. Dickon is pushing her to admit something she'd rather not. The final example that comes to mind is when Dickon asks her about the missing library books. I think a +1 pushy would work if he asks before he's reached the crush level. While he is offering Primrose a solution to her problem, he is prying in her family matters, and she doesn't fully trust him yet. Anyway, just some food for thought.

 

[Deleted member 1897]

Where's the "Prim, could you please stop saying weird things involving your dad during foreplay? Its kind of a bonerkill." dialog option?

 

[LCloud]

i havent played for like 4 versions and all i could get was a titjob from the libraian, and sneak in and then get caught by samara am i missing anything?