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Are you opening the scrip in a document editor, like wordpad(i imagine you're on a pc?)?
nvm i downloaded a tool to help me do it thanks for all the help it works fine my evelyn is back and i saved it so all thats left is to wait for an update involving her because out of the girls so far she is my character of choice
 

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I accidentally solved the issue of how to raise Perversity. You have to find Primrose 1st secret and get some books back to the library so you can read them. All my other Abilities are at max for this update and perversity is still at level 1. Working on getting the books back now. Then I will be done with this update up to perversity level 4.

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Regardless, it sounds like everything is more or less under control here, except for a few pieces of minor misinformation being bandied about (and no, I'm not going to tell you what it is, muahaha!).
Well, I know one piece of misinformation I'm responsible for. I said it's impossible to get the Evelyn farewell scene if you let Thaddeus sodomize her. That is incorrect. I think I interpreted the code to say her frustration had to be greater than zero, but it's really greater or equal to zero, so the player can allow negotiations to proceed one additional time. I didn't change it in this version of the walkthrough, but I may in the future. I suppose that another one could be my guess that you need her dark secret to make Primrose naughty. My second guess is that it's tied to Primrose's opinion of how perverted the MC is. I noticed you added a lot of perverted and pushy variable changes this update, but their only affect so far in the game is partially determining whether you get the girlfriend or FWB route.

Also, since you said that many of the thresholds are just guesswork that might be changed with feedback, I thought I'd provide some data: if you follow the walkthrough, Primroses variables end up being like 19, love 8, perverted 2, and pushy -8 on day 25.

Also, I found another bug. If you work when Primrose is your girlfriend, even though she says she pays you, she doesn't actually. The amount of money in your inventory doesn't change. On the other hand, this did give me an idea. If you're up for extra work and adding a couple of superfluous scenes, I'm sure Dickon would be more than willing to accept an alternate form of payment. Primrose is a well-read girl, and there's probably some version of the girl-who-can't-afford-her-rent story in her world. Maybe she'd like a little roleplay. On the other hand, we might need to make her naughty first.
Just as expected, another great update. But though... I do not like all that Primrose "Father taught me how to [put here something about sex]". While few first could give you some worries about her being molested by her father, now it is closely to be confirmed. Too close, in mine opinion. But as far I know Belle there is something more into it. So, this is probably a decoy for somethin' far more worst and dark. Or she is really molested. Also, i can't wait how relationship with Primrose impact on gameplay.
Not necessarily. It's possible that Ahab and his wife just made Primrose watch them because those are important skills that every young lady needs to learn. While that might be reaching a bit, this update did at least confirm that Primrose was a virgin, and Belle has said that she doesn't plan on including any male/female sexual content excluding the protagonist in this game beyond Evelyn and Thaddeus. Whatever has transpired between Ahab and Primrose, the player won't be witnessing it.
The problem with walkthroughs for this game is that nearly every update, the entire walkthrough has to be redone, instead of just updating an old one for the new content.
That's what you get in a non-linear game with interconnected variables and a planned New Game+ mode with the walkthrough written by some OCD moron. Speaking of which, latest version of the walkthrough is attached below.
 

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Still not a whole lot for a month worth, but I do understand that some Dev's have to work a real job as well :(
Please think one more time about what you're actually saying here. Creating a full-blown gallery system, updating all the old scenes to work with it, redesigning Primrose's progression, then designing, posing, rendering, writing, and programming no less than 4 new scenes, is somehow "not a whole lot for a month's worth?" How do you even end up drawing that conclusion? I can't even understand the basic reasoning you must have used.

Let me assure you that this was one of those months where I got overambitious and had to work pretty much all my spare time for weeks to get it done in time.

Methinks you need to work on your expectations and understanding of just how much effort is involved in creating a game. Considering how much of my time and energy I've used on this game for the past year, seeing posts like the one you just made is frustrating and certainly not appreciated.

Also, I found another bug. If you work when Primrose is your girlfriend, even though she says she pays you, she doesn't actually. The amount of money in your inventory doesn't change.
Thanks! I'll add it to the (small, thankfully) pile of things to fix for 0.13.
 
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Well, I know one piece of misinformation I'm responsible for. I said it's impossible to get the Evelyn farewell scene if you let Thaddeus sodomize her. That is incorrect. I think I interpreted the code to say her frustration had to be greater than zero, but it's really greater or equal to zero, so the player can allow negotiations to proceed one additional time. I didn't change it in this version of the walkthrough, but I may in the future. I suppose that another one could be my guess that you need her dark secret to make Primrose naughty. My second guess is that it's tied to Primrose's opinion of how perverted the MC is. I noticed you added a lot of perverted and pushy variable changes this update, but their only affect so far in the game is partially determining whether you get the girlfriend or FWB route.

Also, since you said that many of the thresholds are just guesswork that might be changed with feedback, I thought I'd provide some data: if you follow the walkthrough, Primroses variables end up being like 19, love 8, perverted 2, and pushy -8 on day 25.

Also, I found another bug. If you work when Primrose is your girlfriend, even though she says she pays you, she doesn't actually. The amount of money in your inventory doesn't change. On the other hand, this did give me an idea. If you're up for extra work and adding a couple of superfluous scenes, I'm sure Dickon would be more than willing to accept an alternate form of payment. Primrose is a well-read girl, and there's probably some version of the girl-who-can't-afford-her-rent story in her world. Maybe she'd like a little roleplay. On the other hand, we might need to make her naughty first.

Not necessarily. It's possible that Ahab and his wife just made Primrose watch them because those are important skills that every young lady needs to learn. While that might be reaching a bit, this update did at least confirm that Primrose was a virgin, and Belle has said that she doesn't plan on including any male/female sexual content excluding the protagonist in this game beyond Evelyn and Thaddeus. Whatever has transpired between Ahab and Primrose, the player won't be witnessing it.

That's what you get in a non-linear game with interconnected variables and a planned New Game+ mode with the walkthrough written by some OCD moron. Speaking of which, latest version of the walkthrough is attached below.
Our saviour thank you!
 
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For me this a very refreshing game. Finally a game where the English is impeccable, almost 100%. I've seen posts that this is a grinder. Not even close. There will always be some grind and this game has very little. I have no idea how much new content there was in this update because this is my first play through so I had to start at the beginning. I found it to be challenging but not to difficult. The graphics are great and there is some animation which is also well done. I found the 4 UI's to be easy to learn although it took a little while to get the hang of them. I really like the clues but they were the hardest to get through. A lot of save/load to find the right order to use the clues but it was a real joy to play. It was interesting that I was able to find the large secret before I found the simple secret on at least 2 characters. One of those was Primrose and she was the last one I solved. For me she was the hardest one. Story really kept my interest with very little frustration. So keep up the great work belle.
 

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Please think one more time about what you're actually saying here. Creating a full-blown gallery system, updating all the old scenes to work with it, redesigning Primrose's progression, then designing, posing, rendering, writing, and programming no less than 4 new scenes, is somehow "not a whole lot for a month's worth?" How do you even end up drawing that conclusion? I can't even understand the basic reasoning you must have used.

Let me assure you that this was one of those months where I got overambitious and had to work pretty much all my spare time for weeks to get it done in time.

Methinks you need to work on your expectations and understanding of just how much effort is involved in creating a game. Considering how much of my time and energy I've used on this game for the past year, seeing posts like the one you just made is frustrating and certainly not appreciated.
I'm sorry Belle, I didn't mean to upset you, I've never created a game and obviously don't know anything about it and what's involved or what's so ever, I guess I wasn't thinking properly, maybe over tired, not sleeping well lately, please accept my sincere apology. :(
 
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Considering how much of my time and energy I've used on this game for the past year, seeing posts like the one you just made is frustrating and certainly not appreciated.
I hope you don't let thoughtless comments discourage you. I think the majority of us appreciate the work you put into this game. While the spectacle of the updates may vary on occasion, the quality never wavers. As someone who does code diving, I am greatly impressed by your work. Having a non-linear, multiple path game with copious variables that actually do things in the code is quite impressive. Many games are linear, which just require the author to keep adding to the end of the work, and any branches quickly reunite. I've even seen games where their are traits, such as love and lust, that are prominently displayed on the screen but never actually do anything. All of that, and there is still a minimum of bugs after a significant overhaul of the code. You should take pride in your work, and I'm sorry not all of the players provide the praise you are due. Well, I can't apologize for others, but I'll apologize myself. I certainly don't say it as often as I should.

I was thinking about the thresholds currently in the game. My original thought was that love and perverted seemed good, but like and, especially, that negative pushy seemed too high, but then I realized what resulted in that stat. While I do first try to play each update blind and find everything on my own, I'll invariably go to the code and "optimize" my playthough. I thought it might be a good idea if players provided you with their save files, which I'll do below. Mine is a clean playthrough of version 0.12.0 following the walkthrough. If people with clean playthroughs of the latest version who didn't follow the walkthrough would be willing to share their saves, it might provide a good data set to see if any of those variables need tweaking. I'm also including my persistent file for those asking for a file with all scenes unlocked.
For me this a very refreshing game. Finally a game where the English is impeccable, almost 100%. I've seen posts that this is a grinder. Not even close. There will always be some grind and this game has very little. I have no idea how much new content there was in this update because this is my first play through so I had to start at the beginning. I found it to be challenging but not to difficult. The graphics are great and there is some animation which is also well done. I found the 4 UI's to be easy to learn although it took a little while to get the hang of them. I really like the clues but they were the hardest to get through. A lot of save/load to find the right order to use the clues but it was a real joy to play. It was interesting that I was able to find the large secret before I found the simple secret on at least 2 characters. One of those was Primrose and she was the last one I solved. For me she was the hardest one. Story really kept my interest with very little frustration. So keep up the great work belle.
One of the most unique and clever aspects of this game is that it's the "grinding" that provides much of the content and is itself its own reward. You aren't just raising agility so that you're better at molesting girls in their sleep, you're raising agility to experience scenes with Nell and Samarra. That's one reason I find it funny people keep asking for cheats to raise their stats. They're only depriving themselves by doing so.

Also, as per my above comment about saves, you sound like a great candidate. Would you be willing to share your save in the interests of data mining.
Well, that is possible, but why then Primrose is saying "Father taught [...]" instead of "Parents taught [...]" almost all the time?
During blowjob she said: "Father taught me better" instead of "I saw how my mom sucked dad's dick".
I do not think he used chalkboard, draw a dick with balls and said to her "Now, my little girl it is time for you to learn how to do a perfect blowjob. This is dick, you have to suck it. But do not forget about balls. Suck them too, from time to time. Now watch your mommy. She will show you how to do it.", but more like "Come're sweetheart. I will now teach you how to do a perfect blowjob. Now suck my dick."
And you as why I think that? Well, maybe because of game with "sexual content" in it. Or maybe my mind is just broken and coruptted... or maybe I am just fucked up.
Also, as you wrote, Belle do not plan on including others than Thaddeus and Evelyn. Ok, sure but plans can change. Just look at Samra... Sarama... Argh! THE DARK KNIGHT! At first she was like cavewoman.
On the other hand, the picture Primrose paints is not one of someone who's molested by her father. She absolutely adores her father, and her deceased mother. Yet, when he started looking at her with interest after her mother passed, she got him erotic literature precisely to divert his attention away from her, and she has no sexual interest in him. I suppose it's possible he is molesting her, but it just doesn't feel right given the game's structure and how it's presented. If it was the case, it feels like it would be a big reveal, but evidence points to Primrose's dark secret being connected to Merek and the Reading Room. That would leave a Primrose molestation revelation as just there, not really impacting the game too much. While more Primrose content is coming, her romance path is done. Unless there is a completely different path intended for her, I'm just not sure how it fits. I'm probably just overthinking it. While there are certainly something abnormal about the dynamic between Primrose and Ahab, I just don't think him molesting her is a certainty.

As for Samarra, that was more a case of something not coming across as intended than a reimagining of her character. Her accent was supposed to be just that: a foreign accent. It was supposed to convey that she came from a distant land. She was always intended to be adroit, clever, and intelligent. I and, judging from comments, many others enjoyed the accent, but many found it difficult to understand, and Belle found it tedious to write, so it was removed. While her speech patterns were altered, nothing about the character herself changed; however, the way players perceived her may have changed.

Edit: While it's allowing me to upload my save file, it won't allow me to upload my persistent file. Anyone know a way around this? Is it even necessary for the gallery unlock?
 
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I'm sorry Belle, I didn't mean to upset you, I've never created a game and obviously don't know anything about it and what's involved or what's so ever, I guess I wasn't thinking properly, maybe over tired, not sleeping well lately, please accept my sincere apology. :(
Eh, it's okay. You merely pushed me over the edge where I felt I had to say something. I understand that it can be difficult to see game development from the developer's point of view, particularly for people who are mostly used to AAA games and teams of developers. I'm just one person (or pixie for the speciesists out there) with only so much time available to work on the game. Version 0.12.0 of represents the greatest number of new sex scenes added in a single update of this game, something I could only do by crunching like crazy for several weeks. It makes it all the more frustrating when I see people (not just you) comment that it's a small update. It might not take long to play through, but it took ages (as in, one month) to make.

0.13.0 is likely to be shorter from my perspective, but I suspect players will see it the other way around. I just have to maintain a thick skin and keep working.

Well, I can't apologize for others, but I'll apologize myself. I certainly don't say it as often as I should.
Of all the people in here, you must be the one with the least to apologize for. :)

I thought it might be a good idea if players provided you with their save files, which I'll do below.
Thanks for that! I could absolutely use save files from people who have fresh saves that were started in 0.12.0. I'm particularly interested in saves from the moment where Primrose asks you to meet her at night since it allows me to see both the relationship values players end up at and how long it has taken them to get to that point.

I do suspect the average values players end up with will be quite a bit lower in the final version of the game, both because there are more challenges coming up that could sour one's relationships with the girls, and because there will be a time limit. But until then, I need to make sure that there is a certain balance between any diverging paths I make. There's not much point in diverging between a Girlfriend path and a Friends With Benefits path if everyone ends up in just one of them anyway.

While there are certainly something abnormal about the dynamic between Primrose and Ahab, I just don't think him molesting her is a certainty.
While I don't want to spoil any details, I'll say this: The relationship between the two of them is purposefully designed to be confusing and unclear to players, ever since the first version of my design document.
 
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