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muschi26

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I just want to point out that this isn't true in the slightest. She was part of the design document from before I even made the game's first scene, and she was always intended to be exclusive to NG+. This isn't something I came up with at the last second. LLtP was always intended to be a game with NG+ that unlocked new content on your second playthrough.
I’m sorry, it wasn’t my intention to imply that she was added as an afterthought; I only meant that she was added to the game towards the end of development. I should’ve said, “Sister Agnes, who was added later in development, helps to shore up this issue … .”
 

gunnnn12345

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So finally tried the full game after having played an incomplete version long ago, and it is really well done.
I do have two questions. 1. Is it possible to impregnate Neil without dating her? 2. Does Neil and Samarra have any non-golden endings where they don´t die or Neil becomes the Fey Queen?
 

glaurung

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So finally tried the full game after having played an incomplete version long ago, and it is really well done.
I do have two questions. 1. Is it possible to impregnate Neil without dating her? 2. Does Neil and Samarra have any non-golden endings where they don´t die or Neil becomes the Fey Queen?
1. No. the only way to have PIV sex with Nell is to become her boyfriend.
2. To get a good ending, among other requirements, Nell must become the new FQ, freeing the old FQ from her duties so she can help you out in your confrontation with the big bad.
 

gunnnn12345

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1. No. the only way to have PIV sex with Nell is to become her boyfriend.
2. To get a good ending, among other requirements, Nell must become the new FQ, freeing the old FQ from her duties so she can help you out in your confrontation with the big bad.
I get that. Mainly curious if she has any non-FQ endings where she survives.
But thank you for the answers.
 

Belle

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I get that. Mainly curious if she has any non-FQ endings where she survives.
But thank you for the answers.
She does, even together with Samarra, but none where you win the game at the same time.
 

gunnnn12345

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She does, even together with Samarra, but none where you win the game at the same time.
I am perfectly fine with that. Any hints on how to get them? I have already completed the game, so right now I am just trying to see the different endings.
 
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hirakoshinji2

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Gettin a lot of people explaining that the reason there's no good harem ending is because it's not realistic......

Y'all really think I'm playin a game where an old wizard traps me in a time loop so I can be repeatedly killed by a demon over and over until I team up with the queen of fairies, an old crone witch that turns out to be a princess and a black person that's ok with racism to finally defeat the demon by talking him down.....

Because I want a game that's REALISTIC!?
 

Belle

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Gettin a lot of people explaining that the reason there's no good harem ending is because it's not realistic......

Y'all really think I'm playin a game where an old wizard traps me in a time loop so I can be repeatedly killed by a demon over and over until I team up with the queen of fairies, an old crone witch that turns out to be a princess and a black person that's ok with racism to finally defeat the demon by talking him down.....

Because I want a game that's REALISTIC!?
I like to differentiate between the words "realistic" and "believable" when talking about stuff like this. When I describe something as "realistic," it means that I feel something like that could actually happen or have happened without breaking any physical laws or fucking up history. When I describe something as "believable," I mean that it could plausibly happen within the setting in which it takes place. Someone getting burns from being hit by a fireball spell is certainly not realistic (fireball spells don't exist), but it is believable in a fantasy setting.

I'd like to point out here that many fantasy stories can be described with neither word, which is one of my big issues with the genre, influencing my own writing.

Long Live the Princess was written to be believable, not realistic.
 

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Gettin a lot of people explaining that the reason there's no good harem ending is because it's not realistic......

Y'all really think I'm playin a game where an old wizard traps me in a time loop so I can be repeatedly killed by a demon over and over until I team up with the queen of fairies, an old crone witch that turns out to be a princess and a black person that's ok with racism to finally defeat the demon by talking him down.....

Because I want a game that's REALISTIC!?
Similarly, for a harem ending you cheat on a small village worth of women with one another, leaving pretty much all of them thinking they're in a monogamous relationship. Then you're upset that they're not suddenly okay with you having like six side chicks, when some scenes in the game are already giving out the opposite signal, like when Evelyn gives you a BJ under the table in the Library when Primrose is calling you 'My love'?

So by all means, why would you expect this to be a good ending?
 
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hirakoshinji2

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I like to differentiate between the words "realistic" and "believable" when talking about stuff like this. When I describe something as "realistic," it means that I feel something like that could actually happen or have happened without breaking any physical laws or fucking up history. When I describe something as "believable," I mean that it could plausibly happen within the setting in which it takes place. Someone getting burns from being hit by a fireball spell is certainly not realistic (fireball spells don't exist), but it is believable in a fantasy setting.

I'd like to point out here that many fantasy stories can be described with neither word, which is one of my big issues with the genre, influencing my own writing.

Long Live the Princess was written to be believable, not realistic.
Yeah.... We're talking about a small army of gorgeous, smart, successful, high class women all falling tits over heel in love with the most plain, lazy, backwater peasant in world.

A badass warrior woman/noble knight of the crown that loves Nell like a daughter but is a-ok with you raping her as long as you're pretty good at it.

A bad ending where you die and apparently everything is hunky dorey after you do even though supposedly the antagonist absorbed the demon and ruled over the land raping all your girlfriends after you die

I could go on and on mate, but none of this is believable. If any of this was believable in real life we'd be going out and doing it for realsies, not huddled around our computers in a dark room arguing with strangers about if it's ok to put a harem ending in a fantasy porn game.

The only reason we're here is to experience the unbelievable and escape the believable. Because the believable world sucks!
 
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muschi26

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Similarly, for a harem ending you cheat on a small village worth of women with one another, leaving pretty much all of them thinking they're in a monogamous relationship. Then you're upset that they're not suddenly okay with you having like six side chicks, when some scenes in the game are already giving out the opposite signal, like when Evelyn gives you a BJ under the table in the Library when Primrose is calling you 'My love'?

So by all means, why would you expect this to be a good ending?
Just for discussion’s sake, there are girls for whom it should be clear you’re not in a monogamous relationship: Primrose on the sexfriend path; Samarra (obviously); and Evelyn and Callie, if you either set them up together or go for the threesome path. Also, I suppose it depends on everyone’s subjective reading of each character, but the only two girls I would’ve thought would be categorically against Dickon’s promiscuity are Primrose (on the lover path) and Nell—and even then, Nell looks up to Samarra so much that it’s hard to imagine she could never be swayed by her.

You do bring up a good counterargument with the Evelyn library blowjob scene, but evidently something changes with her by the end of the game, because later you can make her hook up with Callie, and even join in; Dickon’s mind meddling must be strong enough to get over whatever hangup she had about that.

While I won’t argue whether or not it’s realistic in general to hope for a good ending in this situation, I don’t think it’s unrealistic for players to assume this game is going in that direction: Belle (the pixie) encourages you to be promiscuous; Samarra is, in a way, of the same mind; and you can take actions to bring some of the girls together (Evelyn and Callie). Moreover, there are zero negative consequences to cheating on everyone until literally the end of the game; if you want to talk about realism, that one’s a bit farfetched—especially since, as you point out, you’re going out with half the village’s population. Hell, even during the ending, only the girls you don’t end up with have a problem; you still get a happy ending with the one(s) you choose.
 

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Just for discussion’s sake, there are girls for whom it should be clear you’re not in a monogamous relationship: Primrose on the sexfriend path; Samarra (obviously); and Evelyn and Callie, if you either set them up together or go for the threesome path. Also, I suppose it depends on everyone’s subjective reading of each character, but the only two girls I would’ve thought would be categorically against Dickon’s promiscuity are Primrose (on the lover path) and Nell—and even then, Nell looks up to Samarra so much that it’s hard to imagine she could never be swayed by her.

You do bring up a good counterargument with the Evelyn library blowjob scene, but evidently something changes with her by the end of the game, because later you can make her hook up with Callie, and even join in; Dickon’s mind meddling must be strong enough to get over whatever hangup she had about that.

While I won’t argue whether or not it’s realistic in general to hope for a good ending in this situation, I don’t think it’s unrealistic for players to assume this game is going in that direction: Belle (the pixie) encourages you to be promiscuous; Samarra is, in a way, of the same mind; and you can take actions to bring some of the girls together (Evelyn and Callie). Moreover, there are zero negative consequences to cheating on everyone until literally the end of the game; if you want to talk about realism, that one’s a bit farfetched—especially since, as you point out, you’re going out with half the village’s population. Hell, even during the ending, only the girls you don’t end up with have a problem; you still get a happy ending with the one(s) you choose.
Yeah, it is admittedly hard to determine in a mind control heavy game.

Some excuses can be made for Belle (she knows about the infertility spell) and Samara (travels around so more likely for hookups, and takes precautions against getting pregnant), but i agree that the only difference between the Harem ending and one where you rape everyone in their sleep is basically that they know who the father is.

There could be more negative encounters when you're dating multiple people to drop a few more hints that there's not going to be a happy harem ending, though for me it felt like a number of things were certainly implied, like when you research your parents and the various dialogue points out how much society looks down on sexual deviancy, as well as geneology being well documented making it harder to get away with this. As a spellcaster, it would definitely not be in Dickon's best interests to get people suspicious enough to have him investigated -- the first encounter with Samara and Nell comes to mind -- and Truthsayers seem like a fairly common power so making waves may be problematic.
 

Belle

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Is there a non-incest version of the game? Or is it only through Patreon?
The game is free. You don't have to pay anything to download it from Patreon.
 

glaurung

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Is there a non-incest version of the game? Or is it only through Patreon?
The game has both a patreon and a subscribestar page. Both of those have free download links, no subscription required.

Downloading from Patreon will get you the version where Evelyn is not related to you.
Getting it from Subscribestar provides the version where she is your sister.
 
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