hirakoshinji2

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I like to differentiate between the words "realistic" and "believable" when talking about stuff like this. When I describe something as "realistic," it means that I feel something like that could actually happen or have happened without breaking any physical laws or fucking up history. When I describe something as "believable," I mean that it could plausibly happen within the setting in which it takes place. Someone getting burns from being hit by a fireball spell is certainly not realistic (fireball spells don't exist), but it is believable in a fantasy setting.

I'd like to point out here that many fantasy stories can be described with neither word, which is one of my big issues with the genre, influencing my own writing.

Long Live the Princess was written to be believable, not realistic.
Yeah.... We're talking about a small army of gorgeous, smart, successful, high class women all falling tits over heel in love with the most plain, lazy, backwater peasant in world.

A badass warrior woman/noble knight of the crown that loves Nell like a daughter but is a-ok with you raping her as long as you're pretty good at it.

A bad ending where you die and apparently everything is hunky dorey after you do even though supposedly the antagonist absorbed the demon and ruled over the land raping all your girlfriends after you die

I could go on and on mate, but none of this is believable. If any of this was believable in real life we'd be going out and doing it for realsies, not huddled around our computers in a dark room arguing with strangers about if it's ok to put a harem ending in a fantasy porn game.

The only reason we're here is to experience the unbelievable and escape the believable. Because the believable world sucks!
 
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muschi26

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Similarly, for a harem ending you cheat on a small village worth of women with one another, leaving pretty much all of them thinking they're in a monogamous relationship. Then you're upset that they're not suddenly okay with you having like six side chicks, when some scenes in the game are already giving out the opposite signal, like when Evelyn gives you a BJ under the table in the Library when Primrose is calling you 'My love'?

So by all means, why would you expect this to be a good ending?
Just for discussion’s sake, there are girls for whom it should be clear you’re not in a monogamous relationship: Primrose on the sexfriend path; Samarra (obviously); and Evelyn and Callie, if you either set them up together or go for the threesome path. Also, I suppose it depends on everyone’s subjective reading of each character, but the only two girls I would’ve thought would be categorically against Dickon’s promiscuity are Primrose (on the lover path) and Nell—and even then, Nell looks up to Samarra so much that it’s hard to imagine she could never be swayed by her.

You do bring up a good counterargument with the Evelyn library blowjob scene, but evidently something changes with her by the end of the game, because later you can make her hook up with Callie, and even join in; Dickon’s mind meddling must be strong enough to get over whatever hangup she had about that.

While I won’t argue whether or not it’s realistic in general to hope for a good ending in this situation, I don’t think it’s unrealistic for players to assume this game is going in that direction: Belle (the pixie) encourages you to be promiscuous; Samarra is, in a way, of the same mind; and you can take actions to bring some of the girls together (Evelyn and Callie). Moreover, there are zero negative consequences to cheating on everyone until literally the end of the game; if you want to talk about realism, that one’s a bit farfetched—especially since, as you point out, you’re going out with half the village’s population. Hell, even during the ending, only the girls you don’t end up with have a problem; you still get a happy ending with the one(s) you choose.
 

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Just for discussion’s sake, there are girls for whom it should be clear you’re not in a monogamous relationship: Primrose on the sexfriend path; Samarra (obviously); and Evelyn and Callie, if you either set them up together or go for the threesome path. Also, I suppose it depends on everyone’s subjective reading of each character, but the only two girls I would’ve thought would be categorically against Dickon’s promiscuity are Primrose (on the lover path) and Nell—and even then, Nell looks up to Samarra so much that it’s hard to imagine she could never be swayed by her.

You do bring up a good counterargument with the Evelyn library blowjob scene, but evidently something changes with her by the end of the game, because later you can make her hook up with Callie, and even join in; Dickon’s mind meddling must be strong enough to get over whatever hangup she had about that.

While I won’t argue whether or not it’s realistic in general to hope for a good ending in this situation, I don’t think it’s unrealistic for players to assume this game is going in that direction: Belle (the pixie) encourages you to be promiscuous; Samarra is, in a way, of the same mind; and you can take actions to bring some of the girls together (Evelyn and Callie). Moreover, there are zero negative consequences to cheating on everyone until literally the end of the game; if you want to talk about realism, that one’s a bit farfetched—especially since, as you point out, you’re going out with half the village’s population. Hell, even during the ending, only the girls you don’t end up with have a problem; you still get a happy ending with the one(s) you choose.
Yeah, it is admittedly hard to determine in a mind control heavy game.

Some excuses can be made for Belle (she knows about the infertility spell) and Samara (travels around so more likely for hookups, and takes precautions against getting pregnant), but i agree that the only difference between the Harem ending and one where you rape everyone in their sleep is basically that they know who the father is.

There could be more negative encounters when you're dating multiple people to drop a few more hints that there's not going to be a happy harem ending, though for me it felt like a number of things were certainly implied, like when you research your parents and the various dialogue points out how much society looks down on sexual deviancy, as well as geneology being well documented making it harder to get away with this. As a spellcaster, it would definitely not be in Dickon's best interests to get people suspicious enough to have him investigated -- the first encounter with Samara and Nell comes to mind -- and Truthsayers seem like a fairly common power so making waves may be problematic.
 

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Is there a non-incest version of the game? Or is it only through Patreon?
The game has both a patreon and a subscribestar page. Both of those have free download links, no subscription required.

Downloading from Patreon will get you the version where Evelyn is not related to you.
Getting it from Subscribestar provides the version where she is your sister.
 

glaurung

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Is there any guide for New Game Plus?
There's not much point. It's exactly the same game, the only differences are that you don't have to train up your stats or learn (as many) spells, there's a secret & a relationship path for Sister Agnes, and there's a way to buy the +1 perversity bonus without having to abstain.

My guide provides info on Sister Agnes's secret if you get stuck with it, but it's really pretty straightforward: Ask her about the church, read up on the church, get the knock spell and break into Callie's place at night so you see her trying on outfits, then, after seeing her at Callie's, snoop around the church at different times of day until you see two scenes of her there.

My guide:
 
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glaurung

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Is the game already finished? At some point will we be able to see more of this world and its characters?
Yes, it is complete. No, the developer says no sequel, no expansion packs. They are hard at work on a new game called Supermodel: defenders of desire. There's a collectable card subgame of that which is now complete and available to supporters, the next step is to incorporate the card game into a visual novel. more info:
 
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so in terms of content how much is harem/vanilla vs NTR? 50/50? 80/20? btw its my mind playing tricks on me or this game had a wt mod?
 
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glaurung

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so in terms of content how much is harem/vanilla vs NTR? 50/50? 80/20? btw its my mind playing tricks on me or this game had a wt mod?
There is essentially zero NTR. If you walk in on Evelyn while she's talking with Thaddeus, you see them kissing. Interrupt, and it ends there, Evelyn likes you better, and a small weekly supply of money for your character stops. Don't interrupt, and the second time you walk in on them, it's oral, the third time anal. Not interrupting causes the weekly money to increase. That is the games only "NTR" content.
There's no need to ever walk in on them while they're together (you can see where each is in the game's map display), if you don't want to see it but do want to get the weekly cash infusion.

Also: There is a guide and an action-by-action walkthrough, both linked in the first post. There is no walkthrough mod.
Finally, there are two possible threesomes, but there is no harem content.
 

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Version 1.0.1 of Long Live the Princess is now public and completely free, no strings attached. You can find the Patreon version and the SubscribeStar version .

A long time ago, I promised that one day the final version of Long Live the Princess would be free to download for everyone. That day has now arrived.

This public release includes some relatively obscure bug fixes based on feedback from version 1.0.0. Even if you already have that version, I recommend upgrading to 1.0.1.

While the game is now free, this does not mean that I don't need your financial support. I'm knee-deep in developing my coming title Supermodel: Defenders of Desire, and I need all the help I can get to make it as good as possible. If you enjoyed playing Long Live the Princess, why not drop me a few dollars (or your local currency's equivalent) to show your appreciation? All help is gratefully accepted.

But that's enough preamble. You're not here to read a lengthy release post for a bugfix update and want the downloads. Well, allow me to provide...

Enjoy!


Changelog 1.0.1:
  • Added a fan-made Brazilian Portuguese translation accessible through the Preferences menu. I cannot vouch for the quality or stability of this mode, and you might find English text still remains in isolated cases. Translation courtesy of zerodead.
  • If you skip Erato's training in NG+ as described in the 1.0.0 changelog, the to-do list should no longer tell you to talk to Erato about the Contraceptive spell. This does not fix saves where this bug is already present, but the message can be safely ignored.
  • Added an extra failsafe for the extremely rare cases of stuck map tooltips, cleaning up at the end of each action. This is a case of Ren'py itself messing things up, and my fix might not actually solve anything.
  • Added a failsafe for the achievement popup, closing any that still remain at the end of the day. Again, this might not actually solve the bug, which appears to originate deeper within Ren'py.
  • Fixed a progression issue in Nell's advanced training in NG+ that allowed you to invite the noblewoman too early.
  • Closed a temporal wormhole in the church that could cause hallucinations of nighttime after searching the place during the day.
  • Getting the benefits of donating to Sister Agnes should no longer unexpectedly award you the Blue Balls achievement as well.
  • Tweaked a few lines of dialogue to fix consistency.
  • Minor gameplay tweaks.
  • Minor grammar and spelling fixes.
Now that I went to see it , there was a new update , and the files were actually used , too bad there was an update on the text files , so some texts must have been untranslated
 

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Now that I went to see it , there was a new update , and the files were actually used , too bad there was an update on the text files , so some texts must have been untranslated
This is always going to be a problem with translations. At least, from what I understand, Ren'py should keep all translations except for the specific lines that were changed, so the untranslated parts will be few and far between.
 

zerodead

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This is always going to be a problem with translations. At least, from what I understand, Ren'py should keep all translations except for the specific lines that were changed, so the untranslated parts will be few and far between.
I just downloaded this new version, and updated the translation, there were only 8 new texts that were generated, if there is text behind codes like (text) or (textbutton) or other codes, it will remain untranslated
 
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I WILL APPOLOGISE TO YOU NOW IF WHAT I SAY BELLOW SHOULD IT PI** YOU OFF!

THIS IS TO ALL OF YOU POSTERS ON PAGE 205, WHO ARE GASSING (talking) ABOUT 'REALISTIC STORY LINE(S)'!

NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT IT MAY SEEN OTHERWISE TO YOU BUT...
[ I MUST WARN YOU NOW, THE FOLLOWING MAY SHOCK YOU ]

So are you ready?
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IT IS NOT REAL! THEY ARE JUST PIXLES, DATA or whatever...

SO JUST ENJOY IT/THEM FOR WHAT 'IT' OR 'THEY' ARE...

A BEAUTYFULY LOOKING, EMOTIONLY HEART WARMING!

But I confess I love it!
BECAUSE THERE'S JUST THAT RIGHT AMOUNT OF BROTHER/SISTER TABOO BONKING! (When Evelyn says to MC "She wants to waking up next to you (MC) every morning. So I can join her in her bed tonight and how you (MC) would be welcome in her bed every night... If you want to......

{Sorry i am a filthy smut crazed perverted depraved bloke. YES I KNOW!}
I am sorry.


FIRST EVER REN'PY GAME I EVER PLAYED!
 

muschi26

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POSTERS ON PAGE 205
Not everyone uses the same ratio of comments per page; the comments on my page 205 were written in 2018.

IT IS NOT REAL! THEY ARE JUST PIXLES, DATA or whatever...

SO JUST ENJOY IT/THEM FOR WHAT 'IT' OR 'THEY' ARE...

A BEAUTYFULY LOOKING, EMOTIONLY HEART WARMING!
I don’t think you want to pull the “it’s all fictional anyways so it doesn’t matter” card, because in all likelihood the first person who would take umbrage at that statement is Belle. They’re the one who worked hard to create a realistic, grounded story, populated with believable characters, etc.; and I daresay that’s the goal underlying most narrative works. The problem is that different people have different opinions on what constitutes a realistic narrative; some people are willing to go further than others in order to suspend their disbelief.

You yourself say you found this emotionally heartwarming. (By the by, good for you; I’m glad you enjoyed the game.) However, for that to have been the case, you must have had some sort of emotional connection with the characters, or the plot, or something at least within the narrative; which means that, on some level, this game mattered to you a little more than other things that “aren’t real” typically do: you were able to suspend your disbelief. And that’s fine—that’s what storytellers are hoping for—but you mustn’t forget that maybe other people weren’t able to do the same. That’s why, when you say, “Enjoy the game for what it is: a beautifullooking, heartwarming story,” you have to realize that this is what the game was to you; and to another, it might have looked a lot different.
 
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