SilentRunning

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Current Cool Sister Gina hasn't really been balanced yet. I made her tough to give a challenge, but haven't balanced her for how challengeing she should be considering how early the AT is. Future updates will probably make her a bit easier.
I have beaten her a few times, but she is pretty hard. Not impossible, but certainly very hard. She burns a lot of cards, she starts with that negative idea ability, and once she puts down a sickness things can get pretty tough if you aren't already set up for it.
 

Baal7734

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I have beaten her a few times, but she is pretty hard. Not impossible, but certainly very hard. She burns a lot of cards, she starts with that negative idea ability, and once she puts down a sickness things can get pretty tough if you aren't already set up for it.
yeah, I'll probably pull some of the burn off her cards. I'll probably leave the burn on the shatter card and pull them off her discard cards.
 

werdna33

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Yeah. I play windowed and with a screenshot of current ATs and requisites so i don't have to check a lot when refilling my inventory. It takes a bit to get the usefull skills but then you advance faster
This is exactly what I did -- used the Windows snip tool and made a word doc of them all I could scroll through. Makes the game 100 times less tedious
 

memelman

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There aren't routes per se. There are Branches that operate around certain themes. I'm developing each of the main characters monogamous branch first. That being said...even in the mongamous branch, there will be paths that lead to other slutty content. Now you were correct in assuming Immediagram Mother was a lot less monogamous. A high teir Patron was paying me to develop a slutty path for her, so I started working her toward a Camgirl branch. But only got one AT in before the patron changed thier focus to work on Becky content...(I.E. Queen Bee) and then changed games for me to focus on all together :p

Anywho...I won't be returning to Immediagram until I finish the current series of AT's that get's Diane to a fuckable state of her own free will ;)
Are there any plans to have the Immediagram branch have a monogamous branch or sub branch?

I am asking because I find the idea of the mother getting into modeling -> nude modeling/camming -> amateur porn with the MC helping as the camerman/assistant/co-model to be much more appealing than the current main path for her with the alcoholism and non-consent in it, but I don't like sharing/swinging/open relationship/poly type stuff at all.
 
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khumak

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I've only played the foreplay rounds a few times so far in the card game version but it seems like all you really need is to get her drunk so you can actually get to the foreplay round instead of getting a draw and then also have some cards that have both initiation and foreplay versions. A lot of cards don't have any foreplay version. As some others have said it seemed like winning once you actually reach the foreplay stage is almost guaranteed.
 

Baal7734

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I've only played the foreplay rounds a few times so far in the card game version but it seems like all you really need is to get her drunk so you can actually get to the foreplay round instead of getting a draw and then also have some cards that have both initiation and foreplay versions. A lot of cards don't have any foreplay version. As some others have said it seemed like winning once you actually reach the foreplay stage is almost guaranteed.
Well yeah...The personality card that would give her a defense against foreplay, prohibits foreplay from happening...so... If you get around that, you've already overcome a major hurdle :D
 

khumak

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Well yeah...The personality card that would give her a defense against foreplay, prohibits foreplay from happening...so... If you get around that, you've already overcome a major hurdle :D
Oh I wasn't complaining. Although it wasn't clear to me for quite awhile that getting her drunk was required for foreplay. Or at least that's the only way I've found so far.
 

SilentRunning

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Oh I wasn't complaining. Although it wasn't clear to me for quite awhile that getting her drunk was required for foreplay. Or at least that's the only way I've found so far.
I tried to defeat her without getting her drunk, but I was never able to pull it off. There are cards that can damage that back row, but getting the correct combos to manage that without first losing or defeating both of the first row defense seems pretty hard. I didn't do the math to make sure it is even technically possible, which I would do if I was really going to attempt to defeat her without alcohol.
 

khumak

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I tried to defeat her without getting her drunk, but I was never able to pull it off. There are cards that can damage that back row, but getting the correct combos to manage that without first losing or defeating both of the first row defense seems pretty hard. I didn't do the math to make sure it is even technically possible, which I would do if I was really going to attempt to defeat her without alcohol.
Well most of the cards that can damage the back row are foreplay cards so you can't even use them until you're in the foreplay round. Maybe there are more if you get far enough, I've only unlocked 2 of Gina's ATs. The first Gina seems easier to get drunk and get the win against. Will have to try the second version when I have enough sex xp to get that last unhealthy upgrade.
 

SilentRunning

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Well most of the cards that can damage the back row are foreplay cards so you can't even use them until you're in the foreplay round. Maybe there are more if you get far enough, I've only unlocked 2 of Gina's ATs. The first Gina seems easier to get drunk and get the win against. Will have to try the second version when I have enough sex xp to get that last unhealthy upgrade.
There are more cards. Plus some that create splash damage. I have unlocked all the cards. There are only 2 AT's for Gina. You can switch back and forth between them.

What's the ntr here? The mom fucked by others or?
Yeah, she has sex with her husband. Something she had to do so the main character and his sisters can exist. So it isn't exactly that shocking. You can avoid seeing it if you want.

There might be other events, but I don't use a walk through and I have yet to discover anything besides that.
 

miagkov.ivan

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Can someone tell me please how to apply new archetype or will it change automatically? For example to Diane, now she has archetype ''mother'' but i have already ''relaxed mother'' i guess. Why it is still ''mother'' then?
 

SilentRunning

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Can someone tell me please how to apply new archetype or will it change automatically? For example to Diane, now she has archetype ''mother'' but i have already ''relaxed mother'' i guess. Why it is still ''mother'' then?
I suggest you read the in game tutorial. Everything you need to know is there. I had to read it several times to really understand it.

A new Archetype isn't ready until all the subcategories are green. At that point the main header will turn White. Once an Archetype is ready you can apply it when you talk to the person. There will be a new icon that allows you to apply a new Archetype when one is possible.
 

SISIMEN

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I feel like my exasperation with Jessequest got kind of melded into a sea of weird negativity with brother fuckergate.

Brother Fucker rhymes with Mother Fucker. It's a good name for an incest oriented AT.

Personally the only thing NTR related that kills my boner is for the perspective character to be humiliated or shamed. That doesn't even necessarily have anything to do with whether other men have sex with "his women". I don't enjoy scenes where the MC is bullied, harrassed, or made to feel weak or powerless. Orgasm denial makes my pud sad, when a girl teases the MC's cock and leaves him unfulfilled I end up feeling the secondhand frustration.

Sharing is caring, especially if it's sharing your hot sister's tight cunt with dear old dad.

My favorite sister AT is still Cool Sister. If my cock was the one writing this game, there would be an AT branch that pushed her further down that path. Reckless Sister that forgets to lock her door at night when she comes home drunk -> "The Duddette" that just accepts anything that comes her way.

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I think the core idea is interesting, but...

The puzzle of conversation topics is overly fiddly. The fact that there multiple keywords that map to the same stat, but don't necessarily always overlap. 6 ban keywords, 6 like keywords, 4 keywords for the 2 secondary interests your trying to put onto the character... it's too much to keep track of mentally. And that's just for 1 character.

I take a screenshot of the character's profile and open it up in another window, and the process of digging through the inventory, reading the keywords on all your topics and then looking back the AT to try to find a triangular match that will allow you raise your target keyword... it's not fun. It's not challenging in an interesting or strategic way. That's why people just give up and spam Cum Chokers.

The new search function does help a tiny bit, but you have to find a transient topic that has the keyword you want to initiate a search, so 9 times out of 10 that's the only the one that meets the criteria anyway.

We have an inventory limit, and then we have the hotbar system on top of that. 2 layers of inventory management puzzle.

Having a tooltips in the inventory to tell you how people would react to a conversation option would really help. Put a little portrait box in the corner of the inventory that lets the player select a target. I imagine you might want a mechanic like that gated to a skill or stat, but if so don't make it something "endgame". It could be on smarts 1, maybe smarts 2. (or maybe a "mind palace" skill that levels every time you burn a topic for xp.)

The gameplay loop of constantly refilling your hotbar, finding that you hit one of her bans. Reloading to reconfigure the bar... and click spamming through other scenes to get back where you were...

We have the ability to save bar loadouts... but then we have a secondary item hotbar that you have load items into so that they
can be loaded into the main hotbar. You also have to leave space so that they can be taken out. 3 levels of inventory management.

Please just let us access inventory anywhere (even in the middle of conversation).

The core gameplay loop is of collecting topics that you need would still remain.
This...
 

TFurguson69

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'Grind' is fairly subjective.
I think most will agree that clicking, that even a monkey could do, just to keep the user active at the keyboard is the sort of grind almost nobody enjoys (and yet an alarming number of devs do anyway).
This is not that.
This is a game.
Games, by their very nature, require some time investment. Now, if you don't enjoy the sort of game, you'll probably call it 'a grind' that you're going through just to see the pictures.
But some folks, like me, enjoy the game. It's not a grind at all. It's an interesting challenge to be solved. The 'juicy' stuff is the icing on the cake. ;)
Total puff response. As stated before. If you are a cuckold. That's someone who lets someone else fuck their significant other. The CONGRATULATIONS. This game is for you.
Super grindy.
You get to beat off all day. Virtually and physically.
Enjoy the suck
 

Baal7734

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Total puff response. As stated before. If you are a cuckold. That's someone who lets someone else fuck their significant other. The CONGRATULATIONS. This game is for you.
Super grindy.
You get to beat off all day. Virtually and physically.
Enjoy the suck
Crying on the internet about a porn game not spooning your emotional needs just right...very manly. Deffinitely not beta male energy. We can rest easy knowing that you don't cry yourself to sleep every night because video game character one fucked video game character two, and you're not playing either one or two.
 
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