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xapican

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Played this for the first time (without cheats) and I love the mechanics but unless I'm doing something massively wrong the grind is absolutely insane.
And like even if I was doing something slightly wrong (guide shows I've missed some tricks) it still wasn't signposted well enough for the average player to find.
It is mostly trial and error, but that is the point (at least it´s my perception) How do I formulate this, you have so much freedom, that it is very difficult to know what to do with it, even if u do something wrong you can still manage to get to the result, Take the pill´s for example an expireced player did not know that the Blue ones rest give -1 ass (Sanders2100 love you for that phrase) per hour, or the other guy who told me that Bondage Porn takes way longer to etablish dominace with Diane than changing one of her secondary Interests, it spares you a lot of grind.
the average player, well guess that needs a definition, I understand that you mean; that the norm of the novels where you follow a path etablished by the dev or a story, that they educate you not to think and use creativity. Like the famos dog of Pavlov.
At first you are insecure, if I do the wrong choice I´ll get locked out of the game...... after you realize no you can always correct and get to the Point where you wanted to go and discover a new path
 

Urruah

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They are for Becky,Gina,Diane when you progress your "Influence" Relationship, (by switching their AT´s) you have special events with them, Photoshoots,and Dates (for now) Reduce Assertivnes for Nathan? ( MC) or for one of the Girls ?
If you're trying to reduce Diane's assertiveness, the fastest way is to use a topic tagged with Dominance and a trait she also likes. I think watching BDSM porn gives topics you can use.

There are probably events around the house that work but I don't remember which or where except that one of her sex scenes has an optional way to reduce her assertiveness, but that scene takes some effort to get to and requires the use of a rare topic.
 

Urruah

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There are plenty of characters who give topics like dirty jokes and so on and I think a few things you can buy, but humor serves no purpose iirc.
 
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xapican

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Where do i get humor xp ?
Read a few treads , don´t take nothing serious, laugh, look Monty Python movies, Hear my uncle Fritz tell his jokes and cry (His Humor sense is far beyond terrible) etc etc. :ROFLMAO:

on a serious note: look your computer (if deep search internet unlocked) Jokes or look the youLube video,
 

EmperorGus

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If you're trying to reduce Diane's assertiveness, the fastest way is to use a topic tagged with Dominance and a trait she also likes. I think watching BDSM porn gives topics you can use.

There are probably events around the house that work but I don't remember which or where except that one of her sex scenes has an optional way to reduce her assertiveness, but that scene takes some effort to get to and requires the use of a rare topic.
Blue pill - +20 Intox per hour, -1 Assertiveness per hour.
Red pill - -10 Intox per hour, +1 Assertiveness per hour.
Pink pill - +5 Lust per hour.
Pills last 6hr, iIrc.

So, if a character is in an AT where you have an opportunity to 'dose' them, pills are a good way to adjust their Assertiveness in the direction you want.
 
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Neofolis

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HI, this far into the current version I have still not found out how to get the coloured pills. I did embrace disorder a while back and spent some time at the park selling joints/bags of weed. I assumed it had something to do with being at the park at the right day/time, but never came across anything.

Also any tips on raising Jesse's interest would be helpful and I've yet to discover how to acquire topics or perform actions that are related to the moral/immoral tags.
 

Sanders2100

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HI, this far into the current version I have still not found out how to get the coloured pills. I did embrace disorder a while back and spent some time at the park selling joints/bags of weed. I assumed it had something to do with being at the park at the right day/time, but never came across anything.

Also any tips on raising Jesse's interest would be helpful and I've yet to discover how to acquire topics or perform actions that are related to the moral/immoral tags.
u need to embrace unhealthy, buy bottles from lisa, dissasemble them in wardrobe -> stash menu then use (put them into carry bar)
ps could be disorder instead of unhealthy... better make save before embracing anything
 

EmperorGus

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HI, this far into the current version I have still not found out how to get the coloured pills. I did embrace disorder a while back and spent some time at the park selling joints/bags of weed. I assumed it had something to do with being at the park at the right day/time, but never came across anything.

Also any tips on raising Jesse's interest would be helpful and I've yet to discover how to acquire topics or perform actions that are related to the moral/immoral tags.
Pills, embrace Unhealthy (In skills menu, Unhealthy mentions Prescription drugs), then you can buy bottles of them from Lisa (10 in a bottle, must be broken down to single pills in the drug stash in your wardrobe)
Or, embrace Lazy and you can find individual pills by scrounging in parents bathroom.

Interest:
Incest, Romance (& Fantasy), and Seductive (& Exhibitionist) are the skills that can raise interest stat in a conversation.
Check skills menu to be sure your skill is high enough for '+1 interest'.
If the woman doesn't have one of those as in interest, you have to find a Topic that has one of those and a tag she is interested in.
With Jesse, I found Exhibitionist the easiest tag to use to raise her interest stat. Brother Fucker Gina is a good source of that tag.

Moral/Immoral... is currently suffering from 'game in development'.
It's there, but not yet fully implemented. So it's a bit tricky to advance
Most times you have a woman sleeping or passed-out, you'll have a chance to choose between moral or immoral.
Gina's 1st and 2nd AT. Fri/Sat night at 0200. Watch TV in living room.
Diane Repressed mother, Mon-Fri, keep her drunk throughout the day, then visit her room at 1600 or 1700.
Possible with later Becky AT also, but that's only after party (1 night a week), so it'd be a major grind.
 

Futa_Buddy

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Reading all of the posts from the last few pages makes this game seem like a lot of work for little gain...
 

Neofolis

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Pills, embrace Unhealthy (In skills menu, Unhealthy mentions Prescription drugs), then you can buy bottles of them from Lisa (10 in a bottle, must be broken down to single pills in the drug stash in your wardrobe)
Or, embrace Lazy and you can find individual pills by scrounging in parents bathroom.

Interest:
Incest, Romance (& Fantasy), and Seductive (& Exhibitionist) are the skills that can raise interest stat in a conversation.
Check skills menu to be sure your skill is high enough for '+1 interest'.
If the woman doesn't have one of those as in interest, you have to find a Topic that has one of those and a tag she is interested in.
With Jesse, I found Exhibitionist the easiest tag to use to raise her interest stat. Brother Fucker Gina is a good source of that tag.

Moral/Immoral... is currently suffering from 'game in development'.
It's there, but not yet fully implemented. So it's a bit tricky to advance
Most times you have a woman sleeping or passed-out, you'll have a chance to choose between moral or immoral.
Gina's 1st and 2nd AT. Fri/Sat night at 0200. Watch TV in living room.
Diane Repressed mother, Mon-Fri, keep her drunk throughout the day, then visit her room at 1600 or 1700.
Possible with later Becky AT also, but that's only after party (1 night a week), so it'd be a major grind.
Thanks, that all makes sense. It's like I've read most of this in game, but my brain doesn't process it, then you write it down and it's perfectly clear.
 

Urruah

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iirc the Moral skill tree carries topics marked Moral and Immoral. Or so I've heard, I always picked Immoral because that's basically where all the sex scenes are.

Reading all of the posts from the last few pages makes this game seem like a lot of work for little gain...
Early on it's bad. Later on you proceed at like 5x the pace you did early on.
 
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Happy4now

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I was able to get the first level of Moral and Immoral using Gina's early ATs after work. You can do all of the immoral things first then do the moral thing to get XPs for both skills.
 
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Jahelric

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Jun 25, 2017
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Does anyone have a list or can tell me where I can get a list of all the permanent topics. I am trying to find out if I got them all or missed some?
 

matsc

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Been a few patches since I last played, and since F95's search function is.... painful, does anyone know of an up-to-date list of archetypes?
 
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