But you still add Content for the Love Path?
Not to start the eternal NTR ontology discussion again but, strictly speaking, there's no Netorare/Netorase in the game (there's simply no path where a protagonist's love interest have sex with other people).
For these guys it will always be ntr because they always self insert themselves into the games. a bit masochistic behavior if you ask.
Some people don't make a distinction between "love interest" and "woman you can fuck" and want everyone the MC can be horizontal with to only be for him. I understand, the game is pretty clear that everyone else is just a fun encounter, the only potential endgames are Max and/or Kate, but it do be like that. That's why you get weirdness like son MC games getting tagged with netorare if their dad dares to make a move on their mom.
That warning didn't prepare players for MC lacking suddenly a specific personality option that he had previously. You added some specific option in every single relevant choice before 0.18 and for many players their MC always had fun directly with the girls instead pimp/publicly shame them. So it's about internal consistency in your MC development and players playthroughs, not about "self inserting too much".
The MC doesn't not suddenly decides to start any of those actions. The girls were the ones who had agency during that quest, and they were the ones planning and acting to public shame each other. The MC just picks one side to help in the dispute because either option would help him towards his listed objective at the moment: gain access to the VIP area. MC just does what he does in every quest: manipulates people and environment to achieve the current goal
)I like the girls having agency or things happening without MC control but the problem is what options MC has to react to those events instead and 0.18 options seem pretty inconsistent with how he acted previously: In past events MC always had an option to do the dirty work personally. Offering an option for MC entering the showers with Victoria (even consensually now that she can be so submissive) or an option for MC proposing Victoria to deceive the other girls and "pretend to be a victim as well" with an "incidental" threesome with MC or even some option to deceive them all into "accidentally" enter in the showers for a lesbian threesome (and in those two last options again a choice to share or not the video) would be as manipulative and effective for his objective, but also proactive and consistent with that specific personality you offered in old events. How the guy that decided to go the gloryhole with Victoria, persuade Brooke that groping her was a good option to enhance the fake video, convince Chloe to have sex as fake boyfriend to trick the security guy, etc, could become so apathetic to just allow Victoria (the newly "submissive" Victoria, not less) to be fucked by the fat guy or follow Victoria orders and betray the other girls publicly shaming them (passively), instead trying a personal dirty work route as in every other past event?
That's very odd to me, honestly. Exclusivity, rarity, individual control, privacy and many other attractive elements of that kind of "I will do it personally" MC route can be all purely sexually focused preferences in real life lacking any romantic involvement, pretty common ones I would say.
Pretty sure Victoria doesn't have any agency when it comes to who she's gonna suck during the "glory hole diner" event. MC can tricked Jefferson—like what Victoria wanted— or MC can screw her over by pretending to be Jeff or call a bunch of randos to enjoy her service. Considering you provided an option to not have Vic doing the dirty with other people, it's obviously jarring now you suddenly don't have the option anymore.The MC doesn't not suddenly decides to start any of those actions. The girls were the ones who had agency during that quest, and they were the ones planning and acting to public shame each other. The MC just picks one side to help in the dispute because either option would help him towards his listed objective at the moment: gain access to the VIP area. MC just does what he does in every quest: manipulates people and environment to achieve the current goal
MC is not omnipotent. Shit can happen in the world out of his sphere of influence (including good ol' lesbian dom and ugly bastard scenes
I can't grasp the concept of "sharing" a woman you don't have a romantic interest with, but if it bothers so much people maybe there should be an option to skip the scenes.
Not wanting to share a character you're interested in ≠ wanting a harem, especially when the game gives you the option to prevent that early on.
I honestly can't see why it's so jarring. Screwing her himself or selling her are both deceiving/evil options for the MC, it's just a choice between doing it personally or earning some money in the process.
Priorities.
"a character you're interested in" = self inserting
It's not about whether MC considers Vic an LI or not. It's about taking away an option available in the beginning for no reason. Yes, yes, priorities and resources and stuff. Just don't be surprised when folks are disappointed you take away a path.
That's still not wanting a harem, and interested in her doesn't always mean self inserting. Ever thought of players trying a playthrough where Vic isn't shared? Some players just like to experiment with the game's options, you know. When you give the option to prevent sharing early on only to take it away later, surely you can see players getting disappointed.
Yes. That's why you can always snitch Juliet and Brooke to avoid the scene.
Probably during some of the endings. In The Architect's past games, that's normally where we see that type of content.
I mean, it's not so much the girls together that bugged me, it was that the whole school saw it and that they'll be pissed at the MC knowing he set it up. I think having an option to still trick them but disable the camera (or make it so only you see it) would be good.
