The Architect

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Why in the world the MC (not me, the completely different fictional character who fucked all those girls) would suddently prefer to offer Victoria to the creature from the Abyss or make Juliet and Brooke fuck each other and publicly shame them when he has been chosing to fuck all the girls himself until now in many players playthroughs?
The MC doesn't not suddenly decides to start any of those actions. The girls were the ones who had agency during that quest, and they were the ones planning and acting to public shame each other. The MC just picks one side to help in the dispute because either option would help him towards his listed objective at the moment: gain access to the VIP area. MC just does what he does in every quest: manipulates people and environment to achieve the current goal

MC is not omnipotent. Shit can happen in the world out of his sphere of influence (including good ol' lesbian dom and ugly bastard scenes ;) )

I can't grasp the concept of "sharing" a woman you don't have a romantic interest with, but if it bothers so much people maybe there should be an option to skip the scenes.
 

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The girls were the ones who had agency during that quest, and they were the ones planning and acting to public shame each other. The MC just picks one side to help in the dispute because either option would help him towards his listed objective at the moment: gain access to the VIP area. MC just does what he does in every quest: manipulates people and environment to achieve the current goal
I like the girls having agency or things happening without MC control but the problem is what options MC has to react to those events instead and 0.18 options seem pretty inconsistent with how he acted previously: In past events MC always had an option to do the dirty work personally. Offering an option for MC entering the showers with Victoria (even consensually now that she can be so submissive) or an option for MC proposing Victoria to deceive the other girls and "pretend to be a victim as well" with an "incidental" threesome with MC or even some option to deceive them all into "accidentally" enter in the showers for a lesbian threesome (and in those two last options again a choice to share or not the video) would be as manipulative and effective for his objective, but also proactive and consistent with that specific personality you offered in old events. How the guy that decided to go the gloryhole with Victoria, persuade Brooke that groping her was a good option to enhance the fake video, convince Chloe to have sex as fake boyfriend to trick the security guy, etc, could become so apathetic to just allow Victoria (the newly "submissive" Victoria, not less) to be fucked by the fat guy or follow Victoria orders and betray the other girls publicly shaming them (passively), instead trying a personal dirty work route as in every other past event?

I can't grasp the concept of "sharing" a woman you don't have a romantic interest with
That's very odd to me, honestly. Exclusivity, rarity, individual control, privacy and many other attractive elements of that kind of "I will do it personally" MC route can be all purely sexually focused preferences in real life lacking any romantic involvement, pretty common ones I would say.

I suggested before how all this is more obvious in games with darker settings than LiS, as the erotic rpg focused on slavery I mentioned in a previous comment in which fans still avoid all "sharing content", including selling any slave, despite how wild is the world and despite many of them enjoy the most sadistic and degradant actions with slaves. Those players lack any "romantic interest" in those simple fucktoy slave npcs without any deep personality, but they prefer the personal and private approach yet.

Ps. I still like this game a lot, I have followed its entire development and helped a bit as one of its patrons. I say all this as a fan disappointed with that specific choice, not as a casual hater.
 

Samsul Hidayat

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The MC doesn't not suddenly decides to start any of those actions. The girls were the ones who had agency during that quest, and they were the ones planning and acting to public shame each other. The MC just picks one side to help in the dispute because either option would help him towards his listed objective at the moment: gain access to the VIP area. MC just does what he does in every quest: manipulates people and environment to achieve the current goal

MC is not omnipotent. Shit can happen in the world out of his sphere of influence (including good ol' lesbian dom and ugly bastard scenes ;) )

I can't grasp the concept of "sharing" a woman you don't have a romantic interest with, but if it bothers so much people maybe there should be an option to skip the scenes.
Pretty sure Victoria doesn't have any agency when it comes to who she's gonna suck during the "glory hole diner" event. MC can tricked Jefferson—like what Victoria wanted— or MC can screw her over by pretending to be Jeff or call a bunch of randos to enjoy her service. Considering you provided an option to not have Vic doing the dirty with other people, it's obviously jarring now you suddenly don't have the option anymore.

Since you also said that you might give the option to skip the "sharing" scenes or prevent her from doing them completely, then why not give it in the first place? If it could be avoided, then it's not mandatory to happen, right?
 
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Samsul Hidayat

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Why is there always one guy who wants harem, even though there's like a billion other boring games that do that? Just go play that ffs.
Not wanting to share a character you're interested in ≠ wanting a harem, especially when the game gives you the option to prevent that early on.
 

The Architect

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Pretty sure Victoria doesn't have any agency when it comes to who she's gonna suck during the "glory hole diner" event. MC can tricked Jefferson—like what Victoria wanted— or MC can screw her over by pretending to be Jeff or call a bunch of randos to enjoy her service. Considering you provided an option to not have Vic doing the dirty with other people, it's obviously jarring now you suddenly don't have the option anymore.
I honestly can't see why it's so jarring. Screwing her himself or selling her are both deceiving/evil options for the MC, it's just a choice between doing it personally or earning some money in the process.

MC doesn't care about Victoria.
It's made clear from the very beginning. You can't even gain affinity with her, only break her attitude.

Since you also said that you might give the option to skip the "sharing" scenes or prevent her from doing them completely, then why not give it in the first place? If it could be avoided, then it's not mandatory to happen, right?
Priorities.
Also, you already have the option to snitch Juliet and Brooke's plan to spare Victoria (not sure if a lesbian scene also means "sharing" though)

Not wanting to share a character you're interested in ≠ wanting a harem, especially when the game gives you the option to prevent that early on.
"a character you're interested in" = self inserting
 

Samsul Hidayat

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MC doesn't care about Victoria.
It's made clear from the very beginning. You can't even gain affinity with her, only break her attitude.
It's not about whether MC considers Vic an LI or not. It's about taking away an option available in the beginning for no reason. Yes, yes, priorities and resources and stuff. Just don't be surprised when folks are disappointed you take away a path.
"a character you're interested in" = self inserting
That's still not wanting a harem, and interested in her doesn't always mean self inserting. Ever thought of players trying a playthrough where Vic isn't shared? Some players just like to experiment with the game's options, you know. When you give the option to prevent sharing early on only to take it away later, surely you can see players getting disappointed.
 
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RoadWulf

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Yes. That's why you can always snitch Juliet and Brooke to avoid the scene.

This alternative can only upset a player who wants a harem game AND thinks that girls fooling around with each other is "sharing"
I mean, it's not so much the girls together that bugged me, it was that the whole school saw it and that they'll be pissed at the MC knowing he set it up. I think having an option to still trick them but disable the camera (or make it so only you see it) would be good.
 

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I love the idea of this game, big life is strange fan, though I would much rather play as Chloe as you can likely tell by my avatar, maybe someday someone will get inspired by this game and make a Chloe MC game.
 
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