DistinctCrown

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Only interested in the sister so how do you avoid the threesome involving Helen as I don't like shit that's forced on my playthrough.
 

Fasder

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making a mark aka life how to find jenny panties????
They're on the floor in the bathroom.
Only interested in the sister so how do you avoid the threesome involving Helen as I don't like shit that's forced on my playthrough.
It plays no matter what. Other people have expressed their disinterest with this, but I haven't yet figured out how to make it optional. Would something like an option to skip be okay?
 

yoyomistro

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They're on the floor in the bathroom.

It plays no matter what. Other people have expressed their disinterest with this, but I haven't yet figured out how to make it optional. Would something like an option to skip be okay?
That's what some devs do but if you don't wanna do that build-a-bear porn shit then don't. You don't have to cater to people's every whim cuz they don't like sharing or group sex whatever other fetish or theme you choose to include. If you're looking to attract more support and your next game fixes some of the systems/design issues people might have with this game it'll get more support regardless. No need to answer to every single person who doesn't like this or that scene in your game. But yea just make every scene skippable and just add any variables that would be added in that scene if necessary on the skip label as if the person had watched it or something, that's what a lot of devs do if they don't wanna change the story but also wanna cater.
 
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That's what some devs do but if you don't wanna do that build-a-bear porn shit then don't. You don't have to cater to people's every whim cuz they don't like sharing or group sex whatever other fetish or theme you choose to include. If you're looking to attract more support and your next game fixes some of the systems/design issues people might have with this game it'll get more support regardless. No need to answer to every single person who doesn't like this or that scene in your game. But yea just make every scene skippable and just add any variables that would be added in that scene if necessary on the skip label as if the person had watched it or something, that's what a lot of devs do if they don't wanna change the story but also wanna cater.
Well I think if a dev just adds a scene like that for the kink, that then making it skippable is just a service from the dev.

If the scene as such is important to the story and development of the characters though it should be in and then adding a skip function will not do favors to anyone. At best you will not really get what happens later and at worst that setup was an indication that quite a lot of later content will deal with same subjects the player did not like already in lighter forms.
 
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Fasder

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That's what some devs do but if you don't wanna do that build-a-bear porn shit then don't. You don't have to cater to people's every whim cuz they don't like sharing or group sex whatever other fetish or theme you choose to include. If you're looking to attract more support and your next game fixes some of the systems/design issues people might have with this game it'll get more support regardless. No need to answer to every single person who doesn't like this or that scene in your game. But yea just make every scene skippable and just add any variables that would be added in that scene if necessary on the skip label as if the person had watched it or something, that's what a lot of devs do if they don't wanna change the story but also wanna cater.
Well I think if a dev just adds a scene like that for the kink, that then making it skippable is just a service from the dev.

If the scene as such is important to the story and development of the characters though it should be in and then adding a skip function will not do favors to anyone. At best you will not really get what happens later and at worst that setup was an indication that quite a lot of later content will deal with same subjects the player did not like already in lighter forms.
I'm not looking at it from the point of view of more support but rather to make the game better. Choice is generally good.
In general, I think it's important there are ways to play however you like. I can do that while still making what I want by making things optional. Usually this is reserved for the more extreme fetishes like fisting or pissing, but in this case it's something else.

The bottom line is that while I don't change certain things or make them optional, it's because it would take away from some more important aspect. For instance there's a scene where Jenny sticks something up her ass, but it's part of a story scene, therefore it's easier to just have people go through it than to make a whole alternative scene.
Another thing would be the set names, it's really only for one silly reference, but it's enough for me to not make the names changeable, also because it'd be a lot of fucking work to go through it all at this point, including changing artwork where names appear, it's just not worth it.

Also the reason I ask is more to gain understanding and knowledge of how to make a better game. If you don't listen to what people have to say, then you won't really learn that much.
But yeah, DA22 got the gist of it.
 

yoyomistro

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I'm not looking at it from the point of view of more support but rather to make the game better. Choice is generally good.
In general, I think it's important there are ways to play however you like. I can do that while still making what I want by making things optional. Usually this is reserved for the more extreme fetishes like fisting or pissing, but in this case it's something else.

The bottom line is that while I don't change certain things or make them optional, it's because it would take away from some more important aspect. For instance there's a scene where Jenny sticks something up her ass, but it's part of a story scene, therefore it's easier to just have people go through it than to make a whole alternative scene.
Another thing would be the set names, it's really only for one silly reference, but it's enough for me to not make the names changeable, also because it'd be a lot of fucking work to go through it all at this point, including changing artwork where names appear, it's just not worth it.

Also the reason I ask is more to gain understanding and knowledge of how to make a better game. If you don't listen to what people have to say, then you won't really learn that much.
But yeah, DA22 got the gist of it.
Well, the vast majority of "feedback" you'll get will be along the lines of make the girls fit my tastes/why do I have to watch people fuck who aren't the MC/all the women should fall in love with MC's magic dick and never look at someone else again. That's why I would never recommend to any devs to listen to feedback on story or aesthetic design elements, only systems/ writing (style, grammar, rhetoric, colloquial)/ technical design elements. I haven't touched your game in a couple years TBH, I do plan on looking at it again soon but I do think I remember having some issues with design elements that had nothing to do with the story. I did like that you were focusing on mildly neurologically atypical characters; it's definitely something that stands out from the crowd a bit.
 

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Well, the vast majority of "feedback" you'll get will be along the lines of make the girls fit my tastes/why do I have to watch people fuck who aren't the MC/all the women should fall in love with MC's magic dick and never look at someone else again. That's why I would never recommend to any devs to listen to feedback on story or aesthetic design elements, only systems/ writing (style, grammar, rhetoric, colloquial)/ technical design elements. I haven't touched your game in a couple years TBH, I do plan on looking at it again soon but I do think I remember having some issues with design elements that had nothing to do with the story. I did like that you were focusing on mildly neurologically atypical characters; it's definitely something that stands out from the crowd a bit.
There's a crucial difference between doing exactly what people want and listening to feedback.
As you can see, I have not changed the tiddies, despite there being plenty of people who don't like them, nor have I changed Mark who people frequently think "is a bitch" or "gay".
Part of considering feedback involves finding bad patterns I might have, or things that are easily remedied with more forethought.
But if making something more enjoyable is as easy as making a skip button, that's just an easy thing to do. I'm just not sure that's what people who don't like that scene in particular are after, hence why I asked.

Edit: the haha wasn't directed at you, but the post made me laugh. :giggle:
 

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Fasder Any chance for a threesome/foursome with the twins in the last update? I think some of us have been waiting for that scene for like forever and since the next update will be the last ... ?
 

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IMO skip button solves anything! Actually, it would be great if every game has skip button to every scene so the player can choose which scenes they want to see or not!
 

Insane 33

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So I have been trying to trigger the scene, "Lending Jenny a Hand". I kept the panties and haven't talked with Jenna about the website. But the scene still won't trigger. Am I doing something wrong?
 

Fasder

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So I have been trying to trigger the scene, "Lending Jenny a Hand". I kept the panties and haven't talked with Jenna about the website. But the scene still won't trigger. Am I doing something wrong?
If you have the panties then you've already seen the scene. :unsure:
 

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Has there been any progress with the story of the mother and the notebook that the sister gave to the MC? I think the last update I played was 0.14, they were already living in the new house and the MC had passed the exam. I read the changelog and I didn't see anything, but I asked just to get out of the doubt.
 
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