Asphyx

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Actually, I have been seeing these a lot too and have been thinking about this.
The problem is that each event has as a set of conditions that can be very complex and the events are not (really) linear.
So that means that it's hard for the game to "know" which event is next, except by looking at the current stats,
(this is how the new hints system works as well).
So when players max their stats, the lower and upper limit of an event condition gets exceeded and they won't trigger anymore.
The only real solution I see would be disabling the stat cheat altogether (which would not really be a good solution either).
So I got some more thinking to do...;)



I hope so, I think it will make it a lot harder to get stuck and hopefully you won't need a walkthrough anymore at all.
However raising the stats too high, would still be problem.

Actually now that I think about it, one solution would be to cap the stat raise cheat to the event that matches the number of stars (however this would be a lot of work to implement).
Just a guess here, but it sounds as if you are using the point system as the only variable to set scene triggers. And if someone uses the cheat there will be two scenes available but only the latter scene will show.

It would be much better to use those stars as a second cross check condition to trigger events.
So if Event A requires 40 and Event B requires 45, Event B would also require the star from Event A.

The logic would be something like this....
If Points >40 and Star A = 0 - Display Event A, Star A = 1
If Points >45 and Star A = 1 then Event B Star B = 1

By doing that you are requiring users to complete all events meant to display before the event they have the points to see now. Basically two conditions. One to see that the relationship is high enough and the second (stars) to see if you have completed all the other scenes that should precede that scene before you can get it.

If you did that, even if a cheater maxed out the relationship stats for all the women they would still see every event in the proper order they were meant to be seen in.

It will be a lot of work I suspect to go back on all previous events and set that second conditional (adding a flag to each event that you can check for on the next event) but it would be a much safer and bug free method of pacing and ordering the action the way you intended.

In fact you should already have a list to cross check with that is used to display all the Milestones and stars you have completed in the game. So it is just a matter of checking that table and making sure event A is complete before Event B can display even if the relationship point variable says you have the points to see it.
 
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Just a guess here, but it sounds as if you are using the point system as the only variable to set scene triggers.
Actually, I'm not, hence the "each event has as a set of conditions that can be very complex". ;)
Unfortunately There is a lot more going on behind the scenes than that.

It would be much better to use those stars as a second cross check condition to trigger events.
So if Event A requires 40 and Event B requires 45, Event B would also require the star from Event A.

The logic would be something like this....
If Points >40 and Star A = 0 - Display Event A, Star A = 1
If Points >45 and Star A = 1 then Event B Star B = 1
The thing is that events are not linear (in the engine), but are mostly in game now, so I'm actually just considering changing the engine to reflect that, as that would the be most easy solution this (still a pita though) ;)
 

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Actually, I'm not, hence the "each event has as a set of conditions that can be very complex". ;)
Unfortunately There is a lot more going on behind the scenes than that.
I wasn't suggesting there wasn't. But the fact you can stat cheat yourself out of events shows that each event seems oblivious to the other events in the game. It makes sense to want some events that way which is why the Engine itself won't do that for you, you kind of have to build up that timeline and achievement order yourself via the variables.

Truth is probably you may have made them more complex than they needed to be (LOL) and as a result doing something early messes up the complex match needed to not skip an achievement. Basically saying you made the conditions needed so tight that any deviation from the norm will result in a no match.



The thing is that events are not linear (in the engine), but are mostly in game now, so I'm actually just considering changing the engine to reflect that, as that would the be most easy solution this (still a pita though) ;)
Well the beauty here is that you already have a table of variables to check to see progress. Same one you check to display achievements screen (checked or unchecked) you can use the same thing to make sure the events that you want are done in the proper order (based on how you have them listed) or in some cases not set an order. and just make sure there is no conditional parameter that some other event will change that makes you miss the event.
 

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I wasn't suggesting there wasn't. But the fact you can stat cheat yourself out of events shows that each event seems oblivious to the other events in the game. It makes sense to want some events that way which is why the Engine itself won't do that for you, you kind of have to build up that timeline and achievement order yourself via the variables.

Truth is probably you may have made them more complex than they needed to be (LOL) and as a result doing something early messes up the complex match needed to not skip an achievement. Basically saying you made the conditions needed so tight that any deviation from the norm will result in a no match.

Well the beauty here is that you already have a table of variables to check to see progress. Same one you check to display achievements screen (checked or unchecked) you can use the same thing to make sure the events that you want are done in the proper order (based on how you have them listed) or in some cases not set an order. and just make sure there is no conditional parameter that some other event will change that makes you miss the event.

Actually this shouldn't be a problem for any events (maybe a few though, reading the comments), but just pertains to the hint system (sorry for not claryfing that earlier) and the way I have set that up.
The games uses flags for certain (most acutually) events already, as you can see in the savegames.
But yeah, this is mostly a case of me making things more complex than needed ;)
Time for a new developer again! :p
 

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This is a nice game. I have enjoyed it playing it till now. @Faerin have decided to add some new character. I am not against it. But see there are three main female characters, and some 6+ side female characters. Of them Sophia and Amy have started to play important role the game. In the future the police-girl, casino-girl, bar-owner, or the pizza-girl, may play important role. So if you decide to bring more character just don't neglect the main three girls. And don't get confused like the developer of BB.
 

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This is a nice game. I have enjoyed it playing it till now. @Faerin have decided to add some new character. I am not against it. But see there are three main female characters, and some 6+ side female characters. Of them Sophia and Amy have started to play important role the game. In the future the police-girl, casino-girl, bar-owner, or the pizza-girl, may play important role. So if you decide to bring more character just don't neglect the main three girls. And don't get confused like the developer of BB.
I agree with you, brother, but I like the idea of @Faerin when he want to give more spicy to story, I want to see more of the police-girl, but I think the Claire' sister is better to story. :D
 

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maybe another nagging noob question
but i read in one of carlo ,s answers all brother will give help when needed ;-)

Whats the trigger that blindfold shows up in xxxshop ?
As mentionned before i dont cheat in game and think all events has past on time
 

djustmie

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maybe another nagging noob question
but i read in one of carlo ,s answers all brother will give help when needed ;-)

Whats the trigger that blindfold shows up in xxxshop ?
As mentionned before i dont cheat in game and think all events has past on time

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it seems i am missing 1 taxi event , but when mc visit Neon , and met Veronica she s asking to share cab
however she doesnt show up (anymore) at 4:30h.
another thing. when mc character arive at neon and talk to Amy answer is ''i was just to leave '' but at
04;30h shes still there. Talk to her and again ''i was just to leave.

I can see that submission is 60 , and i supose it will raise to 65 after repeating the blindfold or am i
wrong and can i buy blindfold only when V is at 65?
 
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maybe another nagging noob question
but i read in one of carlo ,s answers all brother will give help when needed ;-)

Whats the trigger that blindfold shows up in xxxshop ?
As mentionned before i dont cheat in game and think all events has past on time
Have you completed the taxi ride events from Club Neon? Amy needs to be at 10 hearts
Have you done the first massage with Mom and opened the sexshop location and got the oil from Amy? Amy needs to be at 2 stars
 

djustmie

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I edited my last post and got another atachment there

yes i (think) i had 3 taxi events)
yes i did the masage oil on claire (got the oil from Amy)
Yes i opened the xxxshop location
yes Amy has three stars and achievments are at 100%
no Amy is at 5 hearts , how to raise that , (not raising on working in gym)
(not working on door talk at neon)
(Amy wont ask me anymore in for a drink)

i read the walktrough several times before i asked my question over here but that just say ''buy the blindfold''

sorry for being annoying
 
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I edited my last post and got another atachment there

yes i (think) i had 3 taxi events)
yes i did the masage oil on claire (got the oil from Amy)
Yes i opened the xxxshop location
yes Amy has two stars
no Amy is at 5 hearts , how to raise that , (not raising on working in gym)
(not working on door talk at neon)
(Amy wont ask me anymore in for a drink)

i read the walktrough several times before i asked my question over here but that just say ''buy the blindfold''

sorry for being annoying
You not being annoying we don't mind helping if we can.
You can check you taxi ride in the achievements (Gold Cup top left) Screenshot (67).png I think you need the middle one before you can get the Blindfold and cuffs.
Amy's hearts should increase by talking to her (try using the cheat to increase Amy's love to 10)
When you got the massage oil did you talk through all options with Amy before you gave her V's panties
 

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I edited my last post and got another atachment there

yes i (think) i had 3 taxi events)
yes i did the masage oil on claire (got the oil from Amy)
Yes i opened the xxxshop location
yes Amy has three stars and achievments are at 100%
no Amy is at 5 hearts , how to raise that , (not raising on working in gym)
(not working on door talk at neon)
(Amy wont ask me anymore in for a drink)

i read the walktrough several times before i asked my question over here but that just say ''buy the blindfold''

sorry for being annoying
No problem, but to progress with Amy (I did when going to Neon to raise Veronicas stats so I went there at 1:00 am) I ask her to spend me company with the beers, if i did before meeting Veronica Vero shows up when is finished) or first meet veronica let her invite u to share the cab go outside and ask amy for company (go inside with her)
 

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Thanks for helping me out (both)
Problem right now is that Amy (at Neon) dont invite me in ( anymore ) for a drink and that Veronica
dont show up (anymore) at 4.30h for taxi share.
So if one doesnt talk and another dont show up (V does show up inside and kiss ) its (imo) impossible
to get the middle event or continue the story.
I have to found out now (cheat modus) to give Amy 10 starrs but if that dont work i must figure out to put it back to 5 ?
Or not?
YES i did talk to Amy untill no more options showed up , in fact did that several times before i figured out had to give here v's pantys. ;-)
 
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Thanks for helping me out (both)
Problem right now is that Amy (at Neon) dont invite me in ( anymore ) for a drink and that Veronica
dont show up (anymore) at 4.30h for taxi share.
So if one doesnt talk and another dont show up (V does show up inside and kiss ) its (imo) impossible
to get the middle event or continue the story.
I have to found out now (cheat modus) to give Amy 10 starrs but if that dont work i must figure out to put it back to 5 ?
Or not?
YES i did talk to Amy untill no more options showed up , in fact did that several times before i figured out had to give here v's pantys. ;-)
If you are really stuck I can offer this save Screenshot (68).png it's the closest I have to where you are (just open with notepad and change the MC's name
 
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Got Mom/Claire to 75 arousal and got the latest yoga scene, but theres a next option that requires 80 arousal and there's still 2 achievements left. Went through a few days of doing all the events/scenes with her but no way to get past 75.

i take it 75 arousal is it for this update? not a big deal can wait for next update but the completionist (ie filling in all the achievements) in me is sad lol.
 
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Got Mom/Claire to 75 arousal and got the latest yoga scene, but theres a next option that requires 80 arousal and there's still 2 achievements left. Went through a few days of doing all the events/scenes with her but no way to get past 75.

i take it 75 arousal is it for this update? not a big deal can wait for next update but the completionist (ie filling in all the achievements) in me is sad lol.
It's a problem that will be sorted in the next update but there is a quick fix at this post
 

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Thanks for helping me out (both)
Problem right now is that Amy (at Neon) dont invite me in ( anymore ) for a drink and that Veronica
dont show up (anymore) at 4.30h for taxi share.
So if one doesnt talk and another dont show up (V does show up inside and kiss ) its (imo) impossible
to get the middle event or continue the story.
I have to found out now (cheat modus) to give Amy 10 starrs but if that dont work i must figure out to put it back to 5 ?
Or not?
YES i did talk to Amy untill no more options showed up , in fact did that several times before i figured out had to give here v's pantys. ;-)
Run quickly to the sex shop and buy:eek:penedeyewink::eek:penedeyewink::eek:penedeyewink: the Handcuffs and Blindfold enjoy ! :eek:penedeyewink::eek:penedeyewink::eek:penedeyewink::eek:penedeyewink: u must let Veronica do some chores a few times before u can cuff her and clean her cat (Pussy) :extremelyhappy::extremelyhappy::extremelyhappy::eek:penedeyewink::eek:penedeyewink::eek:penedeyewink:
 
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